Beauty and the Beast gets 3-D makeover

supertalies · Post by **supertalies** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:36 am

blackcauldron85 wrote:http://www.variety.com/article/VR111800 ... =1971&cs=1
(via LaughingPlace.com)
Pic will be released on Feb. 12.

That's my birthday! Yay!

zackisthewalrus · Post by **zackisthewalrus** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:36 pm

Does anyone know when we can expect a trailer? Hopefully they might include one with "Up" in 3D. I want to see the 2D animation in 3D. Haha

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:46 pm

This is still not until 2010. Still, I guess the prologue opening can make a good trailer.

toonaspie · Post by **toonaspie** » Fri May 22, 2009 9:32 pm

The only thing that bothers me about Beauty and the Beast being chosen for this 3D testing is that the film lacks any true scenes that can really wow audiences in a 3D format. The only scene that will work is the ballroom scene.

I personally think they should've used either The Lion King or The Hunchback of Notre Dame for this 3D experiment first and I'm not just saying that to pick favorites

. The animation and direction of these films are more realistic and so live-action like and both films have more 3D-like direction and depth throughout than Batb does. In other words, the animation and direction isn't so cartoony so I think those two would translate better in a rendered-3D format. If you watch both of those films closely, you can see where I'm getting at here.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:33 pm

So far, the village scene has wowed people. That's a good sign. I don't think it's as much about the coolness of CG as it is about some parts of something being separated from other portions of the same thing on-screen. Like the animated characters can have an arm reach out to the audience, or something like Belle does in the opening number.

zackisthewalrus · Post by **zackisthewalrus** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:40 pm

There's also "Gaston." There's a cool thing with Lefou and the bar people that'll look good in 3D.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:46 pm

Come to think of it, there are a lot of 3D-worthy moments. There's Belle, and Gaston, which are mentioned above, but there's also parts of Be Our Guest and Human Again(if that's still in) that will look good(imagine a wardrobe falling down on top of you). The log in Kill the Beast would also look nice.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sat May 23, 2009 5:23 pm

toonaspie wrote:The only thing that bothers me about Beauty and the Beast being chosen for this 3D testing is that the film lacks any true scenes that can really wow audiences in a 3D format. The only scene that will work is the ballroom scene.

I personally think they should've used either The Lion King or The Hunchback of Notre Dame for this 3D experiment first and I'm not just saying that to pick favorites . The animation and direction of these films are more realistic and so live-action like and both films have more 3D-like direction and depth throughout than Batb does. In other words, the animation and direction isn't so cartoony so I think those two would translate better in a rendered-3D format. If you watch both of those films closely, you can see where I'm getting at here.

while I personally would prefer to see Aladdin or the Lion king in 3d, Im fine with them going with beauty and the beast. and if Disney's 3d philosphy is the same as pixar, their not going to be looking to to wow audiences anyway.

This is the first Pixar movie to be presented in 3-D. What are your feelings on 3-D? Do you think it’s just a temporary fad, more like a gimmick to get more people into the theaters, or do you really believe there is a future in this technology?

Well, we don’t look at it as technology; I think that’s the thing. I think if it’s looked at as technology then it could, yeah, be a fad. We treat it no different than we treat color or light. We use it to tell a story. One of the things we did is we came with a philosophy as to how to use it and how to apply it to this picture. We said, “let’s use the screen as a window” and not have things come over the audience or poke the audience cause then that is borderline fad. It reminds the audience that they’re watching a film as oppose to let them forget they are watching a film, which is part of our job. So we treated it like a window and we pushed the screen in. It’s the inverse of 3D. What Pete wanted to do with that is use that as a way to track the story, similar to the way we used color. At the beginning of the movie, when Carl’s alone, we commence with very desaturated colors and as more people and things come into his life, we added color, so at the end of the movie he’s living in this world of saturated color. So with 3D we did the same thing. So when he’s alone at his house we flattened out screen depth to almost nothing and when he flies away we pulled it back as far as we could so you could feel as if you’re in the main character’s shoes even with the 3D.

DisneyChris · Post by **DisneyChris** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:57 am

Walt Disney Pictures just posted two promotional images of Beauty and the Beast in 3D on its Facebook page: a logo and a shot from the ballroom scene. Nothing too special, but that shot looks more natural than the 2002 IMAX version where the colors looked way too bright.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:00 am

Yeah, I dig tghe more subtle color pallet they have going on. seems slightly too desaturated though to me, but maybe I just need to get used to it after seeing the other one for so long.

does anyone have screen cap of that exact frame? I feel like the character silhouettes might be different (and one of the "eyes" would have to be, naturally for the 3d to work).

goofystitch · Post by **goofystitch** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:22 am

This is close. I couldn't get the exact frame from the Platinum Edition. You can see much more on the top and bottom in the publicity still. I know the aspect ratio on the Platinum Edition wasn't correct, but is the publicity image the OAR?

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:37 pm

If there's more on the top and bottom, it migh just be taken from the LD transfer.

drnilescrane · Post by **drnilescrane** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:21 pm

ajmrowland wrote:If there's more on the top and bottom, it migh just be taken from the LD transfer.

I was under the impression the PE was matted down to the theatrical ratio. That publicity still looks like it might be an unmatted 1.66:1 frame straight from CAPS. The matting is a Kirkdale/Wise thing as they have a reputation for liking their aspect ratios wide (Atlantis is an extreme example).

goofystitch · Post by **goofystitch** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:38 pm

I know that the DVD was matted, but I seem to remember somebody complaining that the aspect ratio was not the theatrical ratio. Does anybody know what the theatrical ratio was? The DVD is 1.85:1.

KubrickFan · Post by **KubrickFan** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:20 am

The theatrical ratio of any of the CAPS movies is 1.85:1, while they are being animated in 1.66:1. Except Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Brother Bear, obviously.
While the aspect ratio of the dvd is more or less correct (it's windowboxed, so it's hard to see) it seems zoomed in, there's image missing on the sides. They're not the exact same frames, so it might be that.

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:55 am

SDCC 09: Beauty and the Beast 3-D
http://movies.ign.com/articles/100/1007275p1.html
(via thedisneyblog.com)

...In the short clip shown during the panel -- Belle's introductory musical number -- multiple layers of depth were evident and the world was given a substantial sense of size and scale above what fans have originally experienced...

Jack Skellington · Post by **Jack Skellington** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:58 pm

I'm so happy they're gonna use the normal colors again !

When it comes to which scenes are gonna look good in 3d, I'd put my money on the scenes where the characters roam around the Beast's castle, especially the "Demonic Gargoyles" scene, and the Transformation scene. I'm so excited just thinking about it.

Do you guys reckon if the 3D release wins big at the box office, we would see TLK, Aladdin, and TLM in 3D soon ? My prediction is that they might do that then when 3DTVs become the norm, they'd release other DACs in 3D.

goofystitch · Post by **goofystitch** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:41 pm

The big rumor is that if Beauty and the Beast does well, Dumbo will be the next DAC to get a 3-D treatment. This was started by an interview with Don Hahn when asked about the release. However, if Beauty and the Beast does well, I think it's safe to say that the major Platinum (Diamond) titles will be treated to big screen 3-D outings, which is a good thing because it's probably the only other way any DAC would get a theatrical rerelease.

Jack Skellington · Post by **Jack Skellington** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:49 pm

Wikipedia says TLK is gonna get released in 3D at 2011, while Aladdin is gonna get released in 2012 in 3D, I hope it's true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Digital_3-D

Rudy Matt · Post by **Rudy Matt** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:21 pm

*snore*

Give me Fantasia in 3-D.

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