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There was going to be a CG Dumbo spin-off, starring Casey Junior, the train. Thankfully, it was shelved. I hope it stays that way.
So how did Klay Hall wind up as director of Disney's Planes? First there was this train derailment or should I say: First an earlier project that Hall was going to helm -- one built around a talking steam train -- got derailed. "This must have been June or July of 2009. I was just finishing up directing Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure. And John Lasseter asked me what I wanted to do next," Klay remembered. "As it turns out, John and I are both big train buffs. So for a while there, we knocked around an idea for a movie that would kind of built off of the steam train from Dumbo. 'Where this train would transport animals that could talk, and you'd only see the people who ran this steam train in shadow. It was a fun sounding concept, but the overall story never really jelled. So our steam train movie idea eventually wound up getting shelved."
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When asked about the origins of the project Hall told us that he and John Lasseter had a great working relationship and they began to talk about a new project. “I had an idea about working on a train movie, I love locomotives and I wanted to do a historical piece on the railroad but then set it the present with flashbacks,” Hall said. ” And he liked that idea, he’s a railroad guy too, we talked back and forth. And then he called out of the blue one day and said, “what do you think about planes? I know we have the train thing going, but how about you set that aside and we do something with planes?” Hall was enthusiastic, “He knew I had a passion for aviation, if there is one thing I love more than trains, it’s planes.”
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It all began almost 4 1/2 years ago when Disney “Planes” director Klay Hall was finishing up his last film, and had become friends with John Lasseter. “It just happened that I am a geek and nuts about planes, trains, and cars, and so is he,” said Hall. John Lasseter and Klay Hall would talk about it all the time, and when Hall was finishing up his current movie, John Lasseter asked him what he wanted to work on next? Klay Hall knew that Thomas the Tank Engine was currently out on the market, but he wanted to elevate the idea.

Then 4-6 months into working on the film, Hall got a call from John Lasseter who said, “I know that you are working on the trains thing, and everything is coming along, and it’s looking really cool…but what do you think about making it an airplanes movie?” He remembered exactly how it happened. He was sitting in the coffee shop over at the other animation studio when Hall said to John Lasseter over the phone, “If there is one thing I love more than trains it’s planes.” Then Hall described how they both started laughing.
Source: http://ocmomblog.com/how-disney-planes- ... klay-hall/
When ideas for a new movie were being tossed around between John Lasseter and Klay, one idea they talked about, and even started on, was a movie about trains. Klay and John wanted to pay homage to the transcontinental railroad, but in a Disney classic kind of way. But after a few months, John called Klay and asked him what he thought about sidelining the trains project and concentrating on planes. Klay was instantly on board and that’s how PLANES was born.
Source: http://www.fabulousmomblog.com/2013/07/ ... ys-planes/
And then, as time went on and I finished my previous film, I was working on this idea about the Transcontinental Railroad with steam trains. It had animals and people in it. It had nothing to do with the Cars world. One day he had the epiphany. He called me up, and he was like, “Hey, what do you think? I know you're working on the train thing, but what do you think about maybe shifting from the train and maybe working on Planes?” And like John, if there’s one thing I like more than trains, it’s planes.
Source: http://collider.com/klay-hall-traci-bal ... interview/
I was working on a train idea that dealt with the Transcontinental Railroad. It had steam trains, it had humans and it had animals. He really liked it a lot and was helping me flush it out. Then one day he was flying in from Pixar and I got a call. He said, “Hey Klay, I have this idea. What do you think about planes instead of trains?” I was like, “John, if there is one thing I like more than trains, it’s definitely planes.” [...] He said, “Look, I’m thinking about this idea. What do you think about let’s drop the trains thing for now and let’s do planes. Let’s make a whole new world above the world of Cars, drafting off the cars world that has already been established. Let’s leave it there and go for something brand new.” And that’s kind of how it all came about.
Source: http://www.awn.com/articles/films/direc ... ure-planes
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HAHA that sounds awful. But, sadly, this exists already:

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I'm glad this didn't get made, but everyone knows that Trains has to come sometime after Planes. :lol:
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I Wish it was made just to see and laugh at all the hardcore 2d animation nuts cries and feel butthurt as if it the end of their nostalgic unrealistic world.
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WDAS had in development in 1993 a feature project titled Song of the Sea about whales. There's not much info about it online. These were the only references I could find.
Kirk Wise and Gary Trousdale took me back to board on their opera staring realistic whales. The title was "Song of the Sea".
Source: http://www.mothernichols.com/about-sue- ... phy/1990s/
Was collaborating with Trousdale in preproduction on "A Song of the Sea", a proposed animated feature about humpbacked whales, when the opportunity came to switch projects.
Source: http://movies.yahoo.com/person/kirk-wise/biography.html
Homer's Odyssey, Sinbad the Sailor and the story of Pocahontas are getting the animated-feature treatment from Walt Disney Studios. Also in the works are Swan Lake; [a feature] which Katzenberg described as "an original story dealing with the mythology of dragons"; Song of the Sea, a story about whales; and a more lighthearted project called Silly Hillbillies on Mars.
Source: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1992-0 ... -swan-lake
The films' successes have prompted Disney to go after other New York theater songwriters. To score "Song of the Sea," the story of a whale's coming of age, the studio recently signed Lynn Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty, who wrote the 1990 Off Broadway hit "Once on This Island," which later moved to Broadway.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/15/movi ... ys-on.html
“We got a call from Jeffrey Katzenburg like ‘You guys, you gotta drop what you’re doing. This project is gonna change your life.’ And that’s how we got Hunchback,” Gary Trousdale shared about how their next project began. “We were working on a project about humpback whales so we went from humpbacks to Hunchbacks,” Kirk Wise joked.
Source: https://www.laughingplace.com/w/article ... ter-hours/
Kirk Wise: [Songwriters] Lynn Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty had a pitch called Song of the Sea, a loose retelling of the Orpheus myth with humpback whales. I thought it was very strong.

Gary Trousdale: We were a few months in, and there was artwork and a rough draft. There were a couple tentative songs, and we were getting a head of steam.

Kirk Wise: The phone rang. It was Jeffrey [Katzenberg] saying, “Drop everything. I got your next picture: The Hunchback of Notre Dame.”

Gary Trousdale: “I’ve already got Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz. You’re going to do this.” It wasn’t like we were given a choice. It was, “Here’s the project. You’re on.”

Stephen Schwartz: They had two ideas. One was an adaptation of Hunchback and the other was about whales. We chose Hunchback. I’d seen the [Charles Laughton] movie. Then I read the novel and really liked it.
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I guess this humpback whale project later became the "Pines of Rome" segment in Fantasia 2000.

Speaking of Kirk Wise, where hasn't he worked on animation since directing the English dub of Spirited Away? In fact, according to IMDb, his few credits in the past ten years have been as producer and consultant on a couple of DisneyNature documentaries.
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Concept art for Sweating Bullets by Carter Goodrich.
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Around 2007-2008, there was a Wall-E sequel (though it sounds more like a spin-off) in the works at DisneyToon Studios.
Shane Zalvin wrote:• Illustrated multiple "Story Moments" and story suggestions, some taken to full-color for proposed "WALL-E" sequel.
• Created new robot character called the "E.G.G." which would have played a prominent roll in the expanded story.
• Created artwork showing the "E.G.G." robot from all sides as well as a larger illustration of the E.G.G. at work.
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Sotiris wrote:Around 2007-2008, there was a Wall-E sequel in the works at DisneyToon Studios.
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Semaj wrote:
Sotiris wrote:Around 2007-2008, there was a Wall-E sequel in the works at DisneyToon Studios.
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Man, Semaj, you must have a strong hatred with sequels. Not every sequel is bad. (joke)
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In Semaj's defense, I think the end credits pretty much makes a sequel to Wall-E utterly pointless. Andrew Stanton even had those special credits to specifically show what happened after the humans returned and how they managed to survive many years afterwards. Want a sequel to Wall-E? Just watch the end credits to the film.
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A sequel to Sleeping Beauty and a second sequel to Bambi were in the works at DisneyToon Studios.
Jeannine Roussel-Hodson wrote:Film Production Bio:
• Tinker Bell – Producer
• Tinker Bell – Development Producer
Sleeping Beauty II – Development Producer
Bambi III – Development Producer
• Dumbo II – Producer/Co-Director
• Lady and the Tramp II, Scamp’s Adventure – Producer/Co-Director
• Lion King II, Simba’s Pride – Producer
• Pocahontas II, Journey to a New World – Co-Producer
• Aladdin and the King of Thieves – Associate Producer
• Boo to You Too, Winnie the Pooh! – Associate Producer
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Honestly, which sequel wasn't in production over there at one point or another.....
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PatrickvD wrote:Honestly, which sequel wasn't in production over there at one point or another.....
Well, obviously a Snow White sequel. :p

Jesting aside, I personally would have liked a (feature-length) Sleeping Beauty sequel. I guess the Keys to the Kingdom story on the Disney Princess Enchanted Tales DVD is as close of a sequel to it as we'll get though.
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DisneyJedi wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:Honestly, which sequel wasn't in production over there at one point or another.....
Well, obviously a Snow White sequel. :p

Jesting aside, I personally would have liked a (feature-length) Sleeping Beauty sequel. I guess the Keys to the Kingdom story on the Disney Princess Enchanted Tales DVD is as close of a sequel to it as we'll get though.
Predating DisneyToons, there was a sequel considered actually...

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Snow_White_Returns

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Ah. I forgot about that. But that was going to be a short film.
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As you may know, there was going to be a Seven Dwarfs spin-off by DisneyToon Studios.

Here's the only concept art I could find from the project. Artwork by Mary Locatell.


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Sleeping Beauty sequel actually would make sense and befitting, considering even the original tale had a sequel.
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Super Aurora wrote:Sleeping Beauty sequel actually would make sense and befitting, considering even the original tale had a sequel.

You mean the original Charles Perrault version the movie is based on? I do know that version's story continues after the princess is awakened.
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DisneyJedi wrote:
Super Aurora wrote:Sleeping Beauty sequel actually would make sense and befitting, considering even the original tale had a sequel.

You mean the original Charles Perrault version the movie is based on? I do know that version's story continues after the princess is awakened.
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