Brother Bear

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:31 pm

I heard that the US cable network Nickelodion is running commercials for Brother Bear! Yay.

starlioness · Post by **starlioness** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:44 pm

Choco Bear wrote:heres a new pic fro the movie

look Marlin and Dory!!

is Koda going to sing Colors of the wind in this one ?

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:42 am

Listen to a one minute and 30 second clip of the sing "Look Through My Eyes":

You need Real Plyaer to hear it.
http://www1.allaccess.com/sounds/phillook.ram

Chernabog · Post by **Chernabog** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:59 pm

Well, that was nothing special I think!
I hope some of the other songs are much better, otherwise the songs will be a disappointment in this feature!

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:12 pm

That minute and a half clip was allright, I am sure the songs will be just fine as long as you like Phil Collins. I really don't listen to that style of music, but its okay and will probably be suitable for the film. He did well with the Tarzan soundtrack.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:28 pm

starlioness wrote: is Koda going to sing Colors of the wind in this one ?

It does have a very Pocahontas feel to it, doesn't it?

I saw the trailer at the head of Nemo a few weeks ago (or whenever), and snooooore. Nobody was really interested.

Hope it does well though, for the sake of all humanity (or 2D animation as it were).

Choco Bear · Post by **Choco Bear** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:52 pm

heres another new pic

yay!!!

starlioness · Post by **starlioness** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:51 am

Voice in the back of my head "Colors of the wind!" even thinking of titanic from the poster...

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:32 am

Loomis wrote:I saw the trailer at the head of Nemo a few weeks ago (or whenever), and snooooore. Nobody was really interested.

Nobody was interested? I think it looks fantastic.

Still, I have been informed by a friend from work that when he saw a movie with the Jungle Book 2 trailer in front of it, almost all of the audience either booed or groaned...

... and yet it still went on to make more money than Treasure Planet.

I don't know if people actually know what they want to watch these days.

Matty-Mouse · Post by **Matty-Mouse** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:07 am

I too think it looks great. I think the trailer make the movie look really promising. It has a very jokes in it and then most importantly it has Koda. He is the Simba for the 21st century.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:32 am

2099net wrote:
Loomis wrote:I saw the trailer at the head of Nemo a few weeks ago (or whenever), and snooooore. Nobody was really interested.

Nobody was interested? I think it looks fantastic.

Ok, SLIGHT exaggeration.

I think it LOOKS fantastic, but the story? SNORE....
Seems so cliche...'Boy who hates bears finds a new appreciation of them by becoming one and the true meaning of Christmas'. Or something...

And I feel like throwing somethng at the screen every time I see "Ko-da...say it with me...Ko-da". Hate child sidekicks....especially ones that sing..
He'll be like Short-Round in Temple of Doom - cute at first, then annoying as hell.
And Phil Collins is just plain...how can I put this politely?...crap. The height of mediocrity, so bland and inoffensive, guaranteed to win over family audience. And to think Disney used to be a sure-shot for the Oscar for best song...

However, these are all initial impressions. I will reserve judgment until I see the full picture. At this point though, I am looking forward to 'Home on the Range' waaaaaay more....[/i]

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:41 am

More two pictures with nice resolution.

Todd_star · Post by **Todd_star** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:55 am

I think it looks promising!
I really look forward to this one!
While the us gets it Nov.1,
we doesn`t get it before feb, march here..

And the two songs I heard are ok.
I think Phil Collins is good,
loved his tarzan songs!

Matty-Mouse · Post by **Matty-Mouse** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:07 am

Loomis, I think your still being a bit harsh on this movie. Its got the same type of meaning (in my eyes at least) of "The Emperors New Groove", he had to learn the true meaning of christmas (as you put it) too don't forget.
Disney movies are always about learning something lately (New Groove, Stitch, Planet) so you cant really pick on this one alone.

I can understand why you might hate Koda but he'll draw the kids in just like Stitch and Simba did, and without him there wouldn't really be a movie now would there?

Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a go at you, I like the fact that we've got so many different opinions on this movie so early, and I have to agree with you on the Phil Collins remarks. I only really liked two out of the 5 songs from Tarzan.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:00 am

starlioness wrote:Voice in the back of my head "Colors of the wind!" even thinking of titanic from the poster...

Koda . . . I'm flying!

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:22 pm

Loomis wrote:I think it LOOKS fantastic, but the story? SNORE....
Seems so cliche...'Boy who hates bears finds a new appreciation of them by becoming one and the true meaning of Christmas'. Or something...

I think that there's a little more to it than that. From what I have read the story includes the following, which makes it far more interesting than a simple animal/becoming one with nature story you imply.

Animated Movies wrote: Long ago there were three brothers.

After a tragic bear attack takes the life of the oldest brother, impulsive Kenai kills the bear in revenge, only to be magically transformed into a bear himself. The middle brother Denami comes upon this bear and, thinking it killed Kenai, vows his own revenge.

Now brother hunts brother and Kenai's only hope for survival is to befriend his own worst enemy, a grizzly cub named Koda. In the end Koda truly transforms Kenai by showing him the real meaning of brotherhood.

Emphasis mine of course.

Admittedly, plot leaks on the picture seem to be hard to find beyond the initial concept... and strangely there seems to be less of them now than there was a few months ago. Plus this aspect of the plot doesn't seem to be shown in any of the trailers I've seen.

So perhaps I'm talking nonsense. Bit I think it has a more substantial storyline than the trailer promotes. (Is this another Disney marketing boo-boo?)

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:52 pm

Loomis needs to change his screen name to Negative Nancy!

Jake Lipson · Post by **Jake Lipson** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 1:55 pm

Everyone on this board who is currently badmouthing Brother Bear or not planning to see it in theaters come November, that's fine with me, really. You'll be missing out, but that's okay. Just listen to me now. When 2-D animation is only found in cheapquels and all the effort is put into and all the theatrical releases are given to CGI movies and you all complain I'm going to ask you if you saw Brother Bear and Home on the Range in theaters.

If you say no, then sit down and shut up. You will've done nothing for the 2D cause and won't have the right to complain about the lack of it.

We all know that we are approaching a period where nearly all of the feature animation will be CGI. Right now, there's not much we can do to avoid that 2D drout.

But what we CAN and SHOULD do is make sure that Brother Bear and Home on the Range are successes in theaters and on DVD. If you don't normally go to the theaters, GO FOR THESE TWO. Even if you can just buy the DVD in two or three months, SEE IT IN THEATERS. Theatrical grosses for Brother Bear and Home on the Range are much of what will determine the future of 2D in the minds of the studios. See Brother Bear this fall, multiple times maybe, and try to make the first one opening weekend. Opening weekend grosses are vital these days, and Brother Bear is at a disadvantage already, being released on a Saturday with one less day to count towards its weekend total (Friday, October 31.) See it, and tell friends to see it, and maybe even pay admission for it when you go see other movies.

Also, if any of you have grudges against non-Disney animation studio, let go of them and support ANY other 2D feature movie* that comes along with your dollars and, should it warrent it, praise. (One of the cases in point: Rent, or better yet, buy Sinbad this fall when it comes out on DVD.)

Only by showing ACTIVE SUPPORT for the current traditionally animated product from ALL studios both on video AND IN THEATERS will we convince studios to that there is still a strong market for traditionally animated movies. The best way to do this is with box office dollars, and home video revenue. Only when they reccognize that the market is still there will they (slowly) begin to greenlight, produce, and distribute traditionally animated movies once again.

<i><b>IF YOU CARE, SEE BROTHER BEAR!!</b></i>

WHO'S WITH ME?

*This does not apply to cheapquels.

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:05 pm

Jake Lipson wrote: WHO'S WITH ME?

I'm with you Jake, wholeheartedly! In fact, I've been saying the same thing myself. Besides, most of Disney's animated features have been good entertainment and I don't see why this film would be any different. I love all animation and if my $8 at the box office will help save the tradition of 2D Disney animation, I feel that is a very small price to pay. Also, I think that a form letter should be written, for free distribution to all of our friends, family, school-mates, church members and co-workers, explaining why it is important that everyone go see this movie, espeically the first weekend of it's release.

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:54 pm

I'm with you Jake!! I intend to watch "Brother Bear" as much as I can... well, I've seen "Lilo & Stitch" 15 times in theaters... "Treasure Planet" 8 times... "Atlantis" 9 times.... If this isn't supporting traditional animation, I don't know what else is!!

Ok, you can call me a maniac now!!!

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