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Sprince wrote:The park will be closed for everyone because of HER???? :x
When you've got the money to be able to do that, then yes.
Sprince wrote:it's not her park!,
It's not my park either, nor is it your park, and I doubt it's Ewan MacGregor's park. It's Disney's park, they own it, they hire people out to work in it, and they schedule when it opens and closes, and who it's opened and closed for.

And if Disney is given an opportunity and the money to throw a private function, they'll do it.
Sprince wrote:if she lets the guests be there then it's okay then it's okay
Great idea. Negate the whole idea of a private party and just have 50,000 guests hanging around the park. Half of them will be chasing her with cameras, the other half will scoff and purposely try and ruin it.

Ever wonder why celebrities like to travel incognito in a park, or at least have an entourage of Guest Relations and Park Security around them? Because regular people would swarm them like crazy, regardless if they liked the celebrity or not.

One day in February 2005, WDW's Magic Kingdom was closed 2 hours early in order for a private "Welcome Party" to be thrown for new College Program castmembers. IIRC, it was called a "Cast Member Blast-Off", as we were "blasting off" into the world of working for Disney. The party only lasted a few hours, but it was a lot of fun (it was during this party that we got to ride Space Mountain with the lights on...and that's more terrifying than in the dark!). I remember my friends and I loudly belting out the "Wishes" song in the tunnels on the way to the buses back to our apartment complex. But the point is, it was a private castmembers-only party. Having guests there would only not only change the experience (a small group of castmembers playing in the park is very noticeable, so imagine a couple hundred of them!), it'd ruin the park-going experience for both guests and castmembers. It's a private party for a reason.

But hey, Miley Cyrus is a public figure, not some college program castmember, so she should be used to all the unwanted and unnecessary attention. So she should just go ahead and keep the park open to the public. :roll:
Sprince wrote:Just because she's rich doesn't mean she can have the park of herself :x.
Like I said before, if she's got the $$$, then she can. :roll:
Sprince wrote:Gee,thanks a lot,Hannah Montana :x.
Yes, thank you Miley for wanting to have a birthday party like anyone else.
Wire Hanger wrote:That's why I said rumor. Bu still MK canceled that party and is closing early on the 4th apparently. With or without Miley.
It'd be quite hilarious if someone who bought a ticket for the Disneyland party misread it and went all the way to WDW, only to find the party was the night before and back in California!
Ames wrote:So at least some of the money is going to a good cause.
I'm glad someone else noticed that too. Why is there so much focus on the not-really-necessary negative of this private event and nobody's looking at the good things it will bring?
BDF wrote:But at least Grad Nites tend to take place late at night, when the guests automatically leave.
You're missing the point. All private functions, be it a celebrity birthday, a company-sponsored event, or a Grad Nite, is always a hindrance to regular guests because the park has to close earlier than they expected in order to get everyone out, all the special events set up, and all the private-function castmembers clocked in.

Have you ever been a guest on a Grad Nite day (be it regular guest or Grad Nite guest)? The park closes much earlier than usual in order to ensure all guests are out and all events are set up. The castmembers have to have special costumes, so anyone scheduled to work it need to go to Costuming hours ahead of time, and don't show up until early evening, just as the morning/afternoon castmembers are ending their shifts (or extending them to help during the pre-Grad Nite hours). We have to make sure all the guests are out of the park by 7:00, then have three hours to return the entire park to a morning appearance (clean streets and food wagons, fully-stocked and arranged merch shelves, functioning attractions, etc.), with the exception of some places that have to be closed, and some places that actually get changed (they had some arcade games put in at Adventureland during one of the Grad Nites I worked - well, pre-Grad Nite and some Grad Nite spillover as I was only scheduled to work until midnight and not 6:00 am like most of the other CP's).

Grad Nites are a pain for most castmembers because while on an average day there's time spread out to get things done, and the park is closed to the public for a good 8 to 10 hours in the evening, everything suddenly gets compacted to a 3 or 4 hour change-over, and then post-Grad Nite, in the wee wee hours of the morning, everything gets cleaned up once again for the regular guests who come by in the morning. So while a Grad Nite traditionally starts around 10:00 or 11:00, guests are actually out of the park by 7:00. And while a Grad Nite traditionally ends by 5:00 or 6:00, castmembers are expected to have everything ready again by 9:00.

And that's usually how it is for ANY private event, though the hours may differ. I'm surprised that Disneyland's only having a one-hour buffer between regular guests and Miley guests.

Here's a little question for anyone that's still annoyed at this whole "Miley closing off Disneyland to the public for a private birthday party":

If it was someone more high-profile that most everyone generally likes, or if it were someone that's not as well-known (and not a subject of much anti-fan bashing) but still has the $$$, would you still be complaining that the park is being closed to the public? I bet if Ernest Borgnine threw a 95th Birthday Party in 2012 and closed off Disneyland to the general public, there'd be a lot less hate from the UD posters and a lot more "Aw, that's so sweet, it's a major milestone, he deserves to have a big party like that!"

Or what if it was a company (let's say Coca-Cola) sponsoring a charity event to end world hunger, where tickets are sold to many of its corporate executives and their families? Would you guys still be saying "Dammit it, Coca-Cola, we want to play in the park, why are you excluding us???"

The whole point is that a private function is a private function, regardless who's giving it, who's paying for it, etc. And the whole point of a PRIVATE function is that only people that are asked to go (or people who pay $$$ for the ticket) are allowed in the park. So for god's sake, can we please stop the whining that Hannah Banana is having a birthday party (birthday parties are normal after all!) when most of you likely would treat this kind of news with apathy and indifference if it were anything less controversial.

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:clap: I'm proud of you, Albert. I agree with pretty much everything that you wrote.

It's not like Disneyland will be closed all day. And some non-Miley-party days, some parks close earier than other nights. Sometimes Magic Kingdom here at WDW closes at 8, and sometimes it closes at midnight. It's not like there's a specific closing time that is the same every single night.

I hope Miley has a great sweet sixteen! :)
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blackcauldron85 wrote:It's not like Disneyland will be closed all day. And some non-Miley-party days, some parks close earier than other nights. Sometimes Magic Kingdom here at WDW closes at 8, and sometimes it closes at midnight. It's not like there's a specific closing time that is the same every single night.
And she only gets one day that the park is only for her? (Or she also invits people?) then I guess it's okay if you put it that way :),it's not even a full day.
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Ariel'sprince wrote:
blackcauldron85 wrote:It's not like Disneyland will be closed all day. And some non-Miley-party days, some parks close earier than other nights. Sometimes Magic Kingdom here at WDW closes at 8, and sometimes it closes at midnight. It's not like there's a specific closing time that is the same every single night.
And she only gets one day that the park is only for her? (Or she also invits people?) then I guess it's okay if you put it that way :),it's not even a full day.
Right. She only gets a few hours that the park is shut down for her, which isn't very different from the park closing early on other nights. :)
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blackcauldron85 wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote: And she only gets one day that the park is only for her? (Or she also invits people?) then I guess it's okay if you put it that way :),it's not even a full day.
Right. She only gets a few hours that the park is shut down for her, which isn't very different from the park closing early on other nights. :)
Oh,I see,then it's okay :D.
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I admit I did like her back then...back when you didn't see her on pillows, bed sheets, t-shirts, backpacks, eraser tops, dishes/plates, and backpacks. I remember very clearly last year when I watched High School Musical 2 I was rooting for her dancing better than anyone else at that pool during her cameo appearance. But now it all has got to stop. I really don't like how Disney is marketing her. They're making so much it's just egging them to do more! I can't wait until Disney starts marketing what got US into Disney...the animated movies and not some teenage girl.

Off-topic: It was fun being in a crowd at Disneyland screaming "OH MY GAWD! IT'S HANNAH MONTANA!! HANNAH OVER HERE! HANNAH!!" and watching all the kids turn their heads wildly looking for her.
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Miley Cyrus gets Disneyland for a day? Oooh lucky her! That's one of my dreams to just waltz around Disneyland with just my friends and family...I wonder if you could get all the characters to run around the park too?? Well anywas, I hope Miley enjoys her sweet 16.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:I've heard though, that a Hannah Montana episode will air about Oliver and diabetes.
That actually happened (I have seen it).
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Ariel'sprince wrote:
UmbrellaFish wrote:I've heard though, that a Hannah Montana episode will air about Oliver and diabetes.
That actually happened (I have seen it).
Wow.. I thought it was just a rumor.

Now I wonder if it will ever air in the US. They've kept at least one "Phil of the Future" episode off of American television and they kept an episode of "That's So Raven" off for nearly a year after the show was canceled.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote: That actually happened (I have seen it).
Wow.. I thought it was just a rumor.

Now I wonder if it will ever air in the US. They've kept at least one "Phil of the Future" episode off of American television and they kept an episode of "That's So Raven" off for nearly a year after the show was canceled.
No,I have seen the enitre episode,I guess it was banned from US.
I can tell what haeppend in it :).
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Why the hell would they "ban" an episode about diabetes? :? Let alone make it in the first place, it it was likely to get banned?

But really, what controversial about diabetes?
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2099net wrote:Why the hell would they "ban" an episode about diabetes? :? Let alone make it in the first place, it it was likely to get banned?

But really, what controversial about diabetes?
What's controversial? I'd say that the fact they gave Oliver diabetes is controversial. The episode could be used to really teach kids about diabetes and the differences between type one and type two. But Disney may not see it that way. Then again, there's a very good chance Disney will air it, as Season Two continues to air (I think...) and Season Three is already taping.

I really can't explain why they'd tape it and not show it. As noted by Ariels'prince, it has aired in other countries. Just not America. And usually when they ban a show, something happens after it was taped to keep it off the air in America, but is usually shown in other countries.


So, I suppose we will not know anything until Season Three.

Phew! Now I'm not talking about "Hannah Montana" anymore....
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We could spot this rotten apple ages ago!

According to new reports, the Hannah Montana set is a bloody battleground these days.

Slutty Miley Cyrus apparently wants out of the Hannah Montana gig to 'focus' on her singing career and is doing what she can to get fired from the show.

And, her achey, breaky daddy, Billy Ray, is supposedly helping the firing mission along!!

The unprofessional duo are supposedly showing up to the set ridiculously late, stalling production and infuriating cast and crew.

Insiders say Daddy thinks that Miley can make loads more money out on her own.

What a crock of crap!!

When Disney caught wind that Billy Ray told people on the set that he and Miley will do twelve more episodes and then they are out, the Mouse's peeps reportedly called his agent, branded Billy Ray and Miley as ingrates AND then exercised some clause in the contract that allowed the Mouse to ADD six more episodes.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Disney should make the remaining episodes sh***y on purpose.
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:headshake: if people are siginng your paycheck you should be professional no matter how famous you are...
this could possibly be only rumors, though.
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http://www.mickeynews.com/News/DisplayP ... 9258Ticket

Disneyland to Miley Cyrus fans: Beware of Sweet 16 party ticket-scalpers
By Brady MacDonald
Los Angeles Times


Fans forking over $500 or more to buy tickets on eBay for Miley Cyrus' Sweet 16 birthday party at Disneyland may be in for a harsh surprise when they arrive at the Hollywood–style red carpet event on Oct. 5.
The Anaheim theme park has instituted strict anti-scalping procedures designed to prevent reselling of tickets at online auction sites such as eBay — where more than 50 "Miley Cyrus Sweet 16 birthday party" tickets have been for sale in recent days. The exclusive event featuring the "Hannah Montana" star sold out almost immediately, with the general public snatching up the 5,000 available tickets at $250 a pop. Profiteers immediately put the coveted Cyrus tickets up for sale on eBay with prices starting at $500 apiece.

But here's the catch. Tickets won't be issued until the day of the event — and then only to the original purchaser after 2 p.m. at the main gate. (The event runs from 6 to 11 p.m.) And that's not all:


The original purchaser must provide a confirmation letter, identification and signature at the check-in booth in order to receive the tickets.
Everyone attending the event must be present when the tickets are issued.
A Disneyland employee will escort the credentialed group into the theme park.


That really stinks for people buying the tickets on eBay without knowing these rules- maybe they could file a report with eBay and get their money back? I bet that there will be a lot fewer people at the party due to the scalped tickets, since some people can't even get in. :(
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tommy2.net says:

Breakout by Miley Cyrus will be re-released as a Platinum Edition CD/DVD on November 18th. Also, the soundtrack for Season 3 of Hannah Montana will be released as a CD/DVD Combo on January 13th.
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If you want to know nothing about upcoming episodes (for the new season) of Hannah Montana, read no further, but know that the first 4 Sundays in November will have new episodes.

tommy2.net says:
New episodes of Disney Channel’s of Hannah Montana are coming your way during the month of November! Each episode will include brand new songs and a new 80’s inspired look for the world’s most famous pop-star and her friend, Lola. Here’s the schedule:

Sunday, November 2 (8:00 pm, ET/PT)
No Sugar, Sugar – After Oliver makes repeated visits to the school nurse, Miley and Lilly learn that he has been diagnosed with diabetes.

Sunday, November 9 (8:00 pm, ET/PT)
Ready, Set, Don’t Drive – Although she’s hoping to be the first in her class to drive, Miley fails her driver’s license test.

Sunday, November 16 (8:00 pm, ET/PT)
He Ain’t a Hottie, He’s My Brother – Miley is horrified when she finds out that Lilly has a secret crush on Jackson, and is shocked to find out that Jackson has a crush on Lilly.

Sunday, November 23 (8:00 pm, ET/PT)
Don’t Go Breaking My Tooth – When Miley insists on going to the dentist without her father’s hand to hold, she ultimately can’t go through with the treatment, but doesn’t admit it to Robby.
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rs_milo_whatever wrote:
We could spot this rotten apple ages ago!

According to new reports, the Hannah Montana set is a bloody battleground these days.

Slutty Miley Cyrus apparently wants out of the Hannah Montana gig to 'focus' on her singing career and is doing what she can to get fired from the show.

And, her achey, breaky daddy, Billy Ray, is supposedly helping the firing mission along!!

The unprofessional duo are supposedly showing up to the set ridiculously late, stalling production and infuriating cast and crew.

Insiders say Daddy thinks that Miley can make loads more money out on her own.

What a crock of crap!!

When Disney caught wind that Billy Ray told people on the set that he and Miley will do twelve more episodes and then they are out, the Mouse's peeps reportedly called his agent, branded Billy Ray and Miley as ingrates AND then exercised some clause in the contract that allowed the Mouse to ADD six more episodes.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Disney should make the remaining episodes sh***y on purpose.
Source: http://perezhilton.com


:headshake: if people are siginng your paycheck you should be professional no matter how famous you are...
this could possibly be only rumors, though.
Um, I hate to be the minority in the Hannah/Miley hate bandwagon, but was this a Perez Hilton article? If yes, then I wouldn't take it as credible.

Perez Hilton is someone that delights on the bashing and humiliation of celebrities. With fame comes a lot of hate and envy. People go out to try and discredit a celebrity.

Miley is extremely popular right now. Who's to say that someone is very envious of that and decided to badmouth her, and gave the tip to Perez Hilton? Since Perez makes a living with that it doesn't matter if its real or not; its hot, juicy gossip that makes the current teen idol look bad.

True, we don't know if this is true. I'm just saying that for now we shouldn't take anything that Perez Hilton says seriously because he strives on mocking the popular, whether the celebrity is worthy of it or not.
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True, he tends to do exagerate, i don't think he would lie though.


Anyway, shortly after he posted that the rumors were false.
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He wouldn't, but I'm sure someone else would.

Like I said, people can be envious enough to try and ruin someone's life, and since Miley is the teen queen right now who's to say another queen, or former queen, is trying to kill her fame?

Not trying to make Miley sound like a saint (there are still many mysteries about her life). I'm just saying not to believe everything you hear.
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I'm actually interested in seeing all of those episodes, minus the dentist one which sounds extremely stupid.
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