Encanto

[estefan]

By the way, if "Dos Oruguitas" wins Best Original Song at the Oscars, it would be the fourth song not in English to win the category. The previous non-English winners were "Never on Sunday" from the movie of the same name (in Greek), "Al otro lado del rio" from The Motorcycle Dairies (in Spanish) and "Jai Ho" from Slumdog Millionaire (in Hindi).

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• New TV spot from Hong Kong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjhmO6ybhcY


• Premiere B-roll. At this point of the video, we can hear a bit more of "Colombia, mi Encanto", which was performed at the event.


• Articles about the premiere:

Open the Door to The Magical World Premiere of Encanto
https://d23.com/open-the-door-to-the-ma ... f-encanto/

‘Encanto’ Cast Talks Colombian Culture, Importance of Latinx Representation
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie ... 235042554/

Disney's colorful animated film 'Encanto' merges music, magic and family
https://abc7.com/encanto-music-magic-disney/11195929/

Lin-Manuel Miranda's Colombian magic in 'Encanto'
https://eu.usatoday.com/videos/news/nat ... 279978001/

FIRST LOOK: Mirabel character from Disney’s ENCANTO makes live appearance at Hollywood premiere
https://mouseinfo.com/2021/11/first-loo ... -premiere/


• And article about the first reactions:

Encanto Early Buzz: An Enchanting, Colorful, And Heartfelt Family Musical
https://www.slashfilm.com/651918/encant ... y-musical/

By the way, if "Dos Oruguitas" wins Best Original Song at the Oscars, it would be the fourth song not in English to win the category. The previous non-English winners were "Never on Sunday" from the movie of the same name (in Greek), "Al otro lado del rio" from The Motorcycle Dairies (in Spanish) and "Jai Ho" from Slumdog Millionaire (in Hindi).

I imagined few songs in other languages had probably won the category, but I didn't know there were just three. I knew it wouldn't be the first one in Spanish, though, because I remembered about "Al otro lado del río". I'm very curious to listen to "Dos Oruguitas" and see if it really seems to have chances or not.

[Farerb]

New Image:


It might be from Waiting on a Miracle.

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^Interesting image. I think you're most likely right it's from "Waiting on a Miracle". I get the impression everyone is frozen in it, except for Mirabel, who is singing. I'm curious about how the song will be staged.

By the way, here are another video from the premiere released by Disney and more TV spots which include some new shots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGJ6ACukKVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyMeiKDKfWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVbwSrfPkI

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Two new snippets of "Colombia, mi Encanto". The first one is a recording of the performance from the premiere and the second one was posted by Carlos Vives himself on TikTok:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CV3hI6JpBL1/
https://www.tiktok.com/@carlosvives/vid ... _webapp=v1

Here are also two new TV spots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BxpxqbXpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9cDOYlOlj8

The shot of Mirabel going upstairs in the second one also seems to be from "Waiting on a Miracle". I wonder if the musical number is going to be like a dream sequence. I guess the still on this article I didn't post because I though was from the ending is actually from that same sequence as well.

Hmmm. All but maybe 3 plain "Encanto" logo t-shirts at Box Lunch are Youth sizes. Are they primarily marketing the film to kids? Raya had a bunch of adult-sized shirts (at different stores).

Maybe The Disney Store will have adult sizes. We'll find out very soon.

The doors are interesting. The only other door like Bruno's where the eyes are fully open rather than being lines is Dolores. I suppose that could symbolize they both have knowledge of some kind--hers through hearing and his through seeing the future.

Interesting observation. Maybe you're right. Dolores actually looks a bit scary to me there with her eyes lit up like that.

What I also wonder now that we see Bruno's door is not lit up is if that has something to do with Mirabel's lack of powers. We don't know exactly when he leaves / is thrown out of the family and his door loses its light, do we? Perhaps he left not long before Mirabel was born and because the family was broken, no new gift could be given? As in, all the doors there have to be lit up in order for further powers to be given or something like that? The original powers may be divide outwards to each member as they're born and when one is absent from the house, it's not possible for the powers to be at their full strength. I assume when a person dies, their door would disappear altogether.

That's an interesting theory, but Antonio is younger than Mirabel and he does receive a gift, so I don't think Bruno's absence will be the reason for Mirabel's lack of powers.

I'm surprised they didn't have the creators didn't have Mirabel decorate her door herself over the years, perhaps have it look similar to her skirt which she made herself, I believe?

Maybe she didn't decorate it because it's not only her room, but she shares it with Antonio.

I love the door posters! I love that Camilo got his own door poster, but I wish they'd give him and his sister new clip art already, Im sick of seeing them with those same friggin poses in everything! I love Bruno's door too, very ominous.

It's true that they are reusing the same poses a lot. I wonder if they didn't create many poses for each character because there are so many of them. But Camilo's pose in that poster is actually not exactly the same as the one he had on the previous ones. It's very similar, though, so it's not strange you thought it was the same.

[Sotiris]

I'm glad Mirabel is getting an 'I Want' song. For a moment I thought she wouldn't get one. That raises the question though as to why all of her dolls have her singing the 'Happy Village' song, "Familia Madrigal" instead of her signature song. When that happens it's usually because the song in question is spoiler-filled, which "Waiting on a Miracle" doesn't seem to be, or because it was written very late in the production process and the manufacturing of dolls and other merch had already started. LMM said he finds it difficult to write 'I Want' songs, so that might be the reason.

I'm not surprised that LMM chose to submit "Dos Oruguitas" instead of "Waiting on a Miracle". He badly wants to win the Oscar and he wasn't able to do that with an 'I Want' song before, so now he's ripping off the Lopezes and trying to create another "Remember Me" in hopes it snags him the Oscar. Everything we've learned about that song and its sequence screams "Remember Me".

The two songs we've heard so far, "Colombia, Mi Encanto" and "Familia Madrigal" are below mediocre. They're much worse than their Moana counterparts, "We Know the Way" and "Where You Are" which was not a very high bar to begin with. I'm starting to think that even the music being decent in Moana was due to Musker & Clements. I dread how the Moana series will turn out with LMM left to his own devices and people at the helm indulging his worst impulses. Anyway, I'm still holding out for hope for "Waiting on a Miracle" and the duet between Mirabel and Isabela, even though the latter seems to be a comedic song which are usually not my cup of tea.

I didn't care the clip from the "Familia Madrigal" sequence. Mirabel was acting all hyper with a lot of dorky poses and frantic movements. They are clearly going for an Ugly Betty-type with her. I'm actually surprised they didn't give her braces. Some of the camera angles were awkward and unconventional as well. I hated the fact Mirabel and others break the fourth wall and directly speak to the audience. That took me completely out of the experience.

I'm pleased there's some romance in the film with Isabela and Mariano, but I'm worried they're going to break them up by the end of the film. Either Mariano is going to dump her for losing her powers, or more likely, she's going to dump him by telling him that he doesn't know the real her and he only fell in love with the illusion of perfection she projects.

I was hoping that Bruno would be the villain, but that doesn't seem to be the case. A twist/redeemed villain is better than no villain at all, in my book. It's clear to me that the magic disappearing is a product of how the family had treated Bruno, and is now treating Mirabel, and how various family members are becoming emotionally closed off which is threatening the family unit. However, I would have preferred if it was because of a scheme devised by Bruno who wants to destroy the magic. It makes perfect sense given how his gift was like a curse to him and how it alienated him from his friends and family. He has more than enough reasons to want the magic gone. It's a shame Disney doesn't seem willing to go there. Maybe they'll surprise me and that will turn out to be the case, but given how Bruno came back to guide and assist Mirabel in saving the magic, it seems unlikely.

[DisneyFan09]

After having seen the Welcome To The Family Madrigal-song, I`m a little torn by it. The song (and Colombia Mi Encanto) are growing on me, but the comedic parts are a little off. The comedic timing and expressions are a little too cartoony and feels like they stepped right out from Moana. But at least Moana (for all it`s epic and serious nature) was a Musker/Clements-movie, so it made sense to have such comedic parts. While Encanto is clearly going to have mandatory comedic elements, they just feels out of place. Otherwise, I like the part where Mirabel is confronted by the kids about her lack of powers and the animation is splendid.

And pardon me for missing it, but judging from the Japanese TV spots, it seems like the movie will be named Mirabel in Japan.

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I'm glad Mirabel is getting an 'I Want' song. For a moment I thought she wouldn't get one. That raises the question though as to why all of her dolls have her singing the 'Happy Village' song, "Familia Madrigal" instead of her signature song. When that happens it's usually because the song in question is spoiler-filled, which "Waiting for a Miracle" doesn't seem to be, or because it was written very late in the production process and the manufacturing of dolls and other merch had already started. LMM said he finds it difficult to write 'I Want' songs, so that might be the reason.

It's true it's a bit weird the dolls play "The Family Madrigal" instead of Mirabel's "I Want" song. "Waiting on a Miracle" being written late in the production makes sense as a possible explanation for that. If it really was one of the last songs written for the film, perhaps they'll mention it in a future interview and we'll have confirmation of that.

Anyway, I'm still holding out for hope for "Waiting for a Miracle" and the duet between Mirabel and Isabela, even though the latter seems to be a comedic song which are usually not my cup of tea.

Why do you think the duet between Mirabel and Isabela will be comedic?

I didn't care the clip from the "Familia Madrigal" sequence. Mirabel was acting all hyper with a lot of dorky poses and frantic movements. They are clearly going for an Ugly Betty-type with her. I'm actually surprised they didn't give her braces. Some of the camera angles were awkward and unconventional as well. I hated the fact Mirabel and others break the fourth wall and directly speak to the audience. That took me completely out of the experience.

I personally found Mirabel adorable there, but I agree about the characters breaking the fourth wall. At first, I thought they were showing us the kids' point of view and that's why Mirabel was looking at the camera, but I guess that's not what it is because there aren't any kids around her at the beginning of the clip and she's already looking at the camera there. In my opinion, it doesn't make much sense to use that stylistic device here. It looks as if someone was following Mirabel around with a camera and they were shooting a making of video or something.

I'm pleased there's some romance in the film with Isabela and Mariano, but I'm worried they're going to break them up by the end of the film. Either Mariano is going to dump her for losing her powers, or more likely, she's going to dump him by telling him that he doesn't know the real her and he only fell in love with the illusion of perfection she projects.

I think one of the options you mention will definitely happen, I agree that most likely the second one, but I don't think it'll be the end of their relationship. The fact that Mariano sings in the last musical number of the film, which I imagine is about everybody making up and celebrating they're united again as a family, makes me think they'll end up together. Although, I guess it's also possible they decide to be just friends.

I was hoping that Bruno would be the villain, but that doesn't seem to be the case. A twist/redeemed villain is better than no villain at all, in my book. It's clear to me that the magic disappearing is a product of how the family had treated Bruno, and is now treating Mirabel, and how various family members are becoming emotionally closed off which threatens the family unit. However, I would have preferred if it was because of a scheme devised by Bruno who wants to destroy the magic. It makes perfect sense given how his gift was like a curse to him and how it alienated him from his friends and family. He has more than enough reasons to want the magic gone. It's a shame Disney doesn't seem willing to go there. Maybe they'll surprise me and that will turn out to be the case, but given how Bruno came back to guide and assist Mirabel in saving the magic, it seems unlikely.

Now, I don't think Bruno will be a villain at all either. I agree him being one could've made sense, and in my opinion, it could've been interesting, but the themes about misunderstandings between the family, some not knowing what other family members are going through and things like that also sound very interesting to me, so we'll see. If it's well developed, I personally might prefer that to a villain.

And pardon me for missing it, but judging from the Japanese TV spots, it seems like the movie will be named Mirabel in Japan.

Yes, they have Mirabel in the title, but the full Japanese title is actually Mirabel and the Magical House. Sotiris posted some of the international titles here. I find it interesting that in many countries they've added a subtitle, but I guess it makes sense since Encanto is a Spanish word and not a well-known one outside of Spanish speaking countries.

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• According to Box Office Mojo, Encanto's running time is 1 hour and 39 minutes.


• New snippet of "Colombia, mi Encanto". The sound quality is better here and I was able to understand some of the lyrics I didn't get the first time, so I'm going to update the ones I posted a while back:

Colombia, encanto, encanto

Noche de fiesta, todos vienen a celebrar
(Party night, everyone comes to celebrate)
Noche de fiesta, todos llegan para gozar
(Party night, everyone arrives to have fun)
Sigue bailando, contento en mi paraíso
(Keep dancing, happy in my paradise)
Y revelando milagros en cada piso
(And revealing miracles on every floor)

Colombia, te quiero tanto
(Colombia, I love you so much)
Que siempre me enamora tu encanto
(That I always fall in love with your charm)
Colombia, te quiero tanto
(Colombia, I love you so much)
Que siga bendiciendo tu encanto
(May your charm keep blessing)


• More praise for "Dos Oruguitas" by another critic and Jared Bush's response to that tweet:

The scene featuring “Dos Oruguitas” - the track that Disney is pushing for Best Original Song - is one of the most moving scenes I’ve seen in an animated film since the opening of UP. It honestly makes the movie, and I can almost guarantee there won’t be a dry eye in the theater.

Source: https://twitter.com/zachbgilbert/status ... 7674913792

The first time @Lin_Manuel played Dos Oruguitas we all had to turn off our zoom video because no one could keep it together. First song he’s ever written start to finish in Spanish and arguably one of the most emotional songs Lin-Manuel has ever written.

Source: https://twitter.com/thejaredbush/status ... 0169176069


• The songs was one of the aspects of the film that got most praise from critics, however there were a couple of people who weren't that impressed by them:

The songs are redundant and gratuitous, but otherwise Disney's #Encanto is very good. A visual marvel that diversifies in terms of representation *and* storytelling. A surprisingly compelling supernatural mystery with a grounded emotional impact that pays off in spades.

Source: https://twitter.com/ScottMendelson/stat ... 2450455552

Encanto is very good and often quite funny. One of the most beautifully lit animated films I’ve ever seen (really) with spectacular musical numbers. The song melodies are a little forgettable but Lin Manuel Miranda knocks it out of the park lyrically.

Most important for Disney —- woman in my screening was bawling the last 15 min. should be a nice hit in theaters

Source: https://twitter.com/TheGregoryE/status/ ... 8517212165

[Farerb]

It's true it's a bit weird the dolls play "The Family Madrigal" instead of Mirabel's "I Want" song. "Waiting on a Miracle" being written late in the production makes sense as a possible explanation for that. If it really was one of the last songs written for the film, perhaps they'll mention it in a future interview and we'll have confirmation of that.

He did write it late in production:

Right by the time I wrote 'Waiting on a Miracle,' time was of the essence not only with the production of the movie, but with @iamstephbeatz because she was eight and a half months pregnant. And it was like we really got to finish this song.

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2021/11/05/ ... n-encanto/

Stephanie gave birth in August, so the song was probably only ready in July.

I personally found Mirabel adorable there, but I agree about the characters breaking the fourth wall. At first, I thought they were showing us the kids' point of view and that's why Mirabel was looking at the camera, but I guess that's not what it is because there aren't any kids around her at the beginning of the clip and she's already looking at the camera there. In my opinion, it doesn't make much sense to use that stylistic device here. It looks as if someone was following Mirabel around with a camera and they were shooting a making of video or something.

The way it's staged reminded me of Usnavi in the opening song of In the Heights, seems like he does like to break the forth wall in his songs quite often, I think it also happened in Vivo. I don't really care for it, but tbf other Disney characters did that as well, most notable - Jiminy Cricket and the Peddler/Genie.

Encanto is a Spanish word and not a well-known one outside of Spanish speaking countries.

In here they kept the name "Encanto" with no translation or a subtitle.

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He did write it late in production:

Right by the time I wrote 'Waiting on a Miracle,' time was of the essence not only with the production of the movie, but with @iamstephbeatz because she was eight and a half months pregnant. And it was like we really got to finish this song.

Stephanie gave birth in August, so the song was probably only ready in July.

Thanks for confirming! Sotiris was right then.

The way it's staged reminded me of Usnavi in the opening song of In the Heights, seems like he does like to break the forth wall in his dongs quite often, I think it also happened in Vivo. I don't really care for it, but tbf other Disney characters did that as well, most notable - Jiminy Cricket and the Peddler/Genie.

It's true; it happened in the opening numbers of both of these movies. I guess it's true Lin-Manuel Miranda likes it. Yes, it happens in other Disney movies too. Well, personally I don't mind it if there's an excuse for it. Maybe there'll be one here, but right now, from the snippet we've seen, it seems a bit weird to me that she's singing that song to both the kids and the audience at the same time. It's not a big issue for me, though.

In here they kept the name "Encanto" with no translation or a subtitle.

That's interesting. Well, I've just checked Encanto's IMDb page and it seems there are also many countries that have decided to keep the original title.

[Sotiris]

It certainly reminded me of the part on Without Question with the golden cards, if you remember. Now that I think about it, it also reminds me of Rapunzel`s glowing hair in Healing Incantation from Tangled (when she heals Flynn Rider).

I do, and I agree about the similarity to the effect in Tangled.

Initially I thought it was because of PC-reasons (remember that Raya and the Last Dragon was also marketed as from the creators of Moana).

Well, that too. It can be more than one reason.

Did Bruno have a vision about it and was that why he disappeared?

This implies that Bruno left either in search of a solution or to prevent that from happening if he believes his prophecies are self-fulfilling.

Jared Bush, who is one of the directors, also worked on Moana as screenwriter. Maybe that also contributed to the decision of choosing to mention that film.

It's likely. I think the biggest reason for the name-drop is that both Moana and Encanto are musicals of the revival era whose protagonists are women of color. It stands to reason that if you enjoyed Moana, you'll be persuaded to check out Encanto based on those similarities.

Something popped up in my head while watching the trailer - it wouldn't surprise me if Mirabel fails her quest and magic ends, prompting her family members to realise they're just as special without their powers.

There's no way that will happen. Every member with a gift (except maybe Bruno) loves their powers and they've had since they were little so for them to lose them for good would be devastating. Not to mention, if Mirabel fails in her quest she won't be able to prove her worth to her family and herself and the fact she wasn't given a gift by the candle's magic would have served no purpose.

That drawing also seems made by Jin Kim. Didn't he leave Disney? However, every new movie from the studio has lots of drawings made by him. I guess he works for them as a freelance artist, right? If so, I'm very glad about it. This way, it's like he never left the studio.

Yeah, Disney still hires him as a freelancer to draw expression sheet for them. I'm glad he's still working for the studio and we get more of his art, but I wish they hired him to do more than a few model sheet. They should actually let him design the characters once in a while.

I do think Mirabel might get her own song later in the movie, I just don't think it will be an "I Want" song, I think it will be a "I am Moana"/"Show Yourself" song (don't know how to call this type of song).

I call it an 'Empowerment' song as it's usually a power ballad that focuses on the moment where a character finds their voice, expresses courage or some other inner strength, comes to an important realization or finds purpose. I don't know if there's an official name for it though.

In the color script it seems what ruins Pepa's wedding is the weather. I may be wrong, but I believe what happens in that scene is that Bruno predicts they'll have bad weather in their wedding. That makes Pepa nervous, and since her emotions control the weather, the prophecy is fulfilled. Same with other family members and people from the village. Bruno's intentions are probably not bad, but people begin to think he's the one who causes his own predictions to happen. And maybe he does, albeit unintentionally.

That's a good guess, but if all his prophecies are self-fulfilling it renders his gift worthless and pointless. Why would the candle's magic, which is supposed to be benevolent, bestow him a gift that has no value and can never result in a positive outcome?

Perhaps Mirabel finds the broken shards in Bruno's room and that's what allows her to see the cracks in the walls before everyone else sees them.

This was confirmed in one of the TV spots you posted. You weren't far off with your theory of Bruno somehow sending those visions to Mirabel.

Although, it would mean Casita would die too, and I don't know if they would actually "kill" that character.

Good point. They wouldn't.

I personally liked the Hercules design better than the one here. I don't have a problem with that kind of creature appearing, although maybe a Minotaur or a giant bull would've been more interesting?

Me too. The Cerberus in Hercules was more menacing and stylized. I would have preferred they used a mythological creature that hadn't appeared in a previous Disney movie.

When I watched the trailer, I suspected that there are at least four redundant characters that they could have cut and made a tighter film. I don't know if that will eventually be the case, but with both Raya and this I feel like the unnecessary characters are mainly for merchandise (you need to buy 12 Madrigal funko pops in order to complete the set) and also to see if they can turn them into a franchise.

I would say it's also because they wanted to hammer into the audience the extended family aspect. You need a lot of family members to do that. I think the large ensemble of characters is also a by-product of the symbolic usage of number three in the Madrigal family tree with Alma having three children and each of her daughters also having the same number of kids. I agree that some characters are superfluous and could have easily been cut without affecting the story such as Luisa, Dolores, and Camilo.

It seems the mystery around the creature Luisa's fighting in that shot from the trailer has been solved. According to one of the comments from this trailer breakdown, it's not a Cerberus, but a "Booboo", a three-headed dog that scares children at night from a legend of the insular region of Colombia.And the building where they're fighting is not an amphitheatre, but a bullring.

The female artist who designed it calls it Cerberus in her Instagram posts, so I don't think it's supposed to be a Latin-American mythological creature. I think they included Cerberus and the stadium to illustrate how Luisa possesses classical, Greco-Roman virtues and fighting skills.

But why does Mirabel look so weird in all her 2D art? It's like her head is too round.

It's because most of the merch illustrations are traced from CG clipart, so the result is not always great. Isabela looks more Indian than Latina in a lot of those illustrations too.

It was just so poorly done with no foreshadowing or build up, ugh. Not even a reprise of Love Is An Open Door sung in full evil relish after the reveal which would have been perfect.

That's such great idea! A villain reprise of the song would have added so much more to the scene. I'm disappointed now they didn't do that for the movie or the Broadway show.

What is the secret hidden in this house full of magic?

From what we've learned thus far, it seems the secret has nothing to do with Bruno. I think it involves Mirabel's grandparents and their past. I wonder what it could be. Maybe Alma didn't reveal the entire truth about why they left their original home or what happened during their journey. Maybe it's something about Pedro's past that not even Alma knows.

I wonder, though, why they didn't use the "60th Motion Picture" logo that was revealed recently and recycled the 50th one they made for Tangled instead. I actually prefer the new one.

I prefer the new one too. As to why they recycled the 50th one, I think it's for consistency's sake. To create a sense of uniformity for these type of milestones.

Coco also had a lot of consultants and there were still mistakes in the final film as far as language goes.

I never heard that before. What mistakes were there in Coco, if you don't mind elaborating?

The soundtrack cover has also been revealed.

I'm really tired of this new trend of just having the logo as the cover for WDAS movie soundtracks. It's so boring, unimaginative, and lazy.

The digital version of the soundtrack also includes instrumental versions of the songs.

Instead of instrumental versions, why not include some demos or cut songs? I'm sure fans would appropriate it more than karaoke tracks.

A new German book reveals the age of all the family members. I don't know if it's canon, though. Julieta, Pepa and Bruno all being all 50 is not strange since they're triplets, but it seems too much of a coincidence that Agustín and Félix are also the exact same age.

It is weird, but what I find even more implausible is Isabela/Dolores and Camilo/Mirabel sharing the same age. That means Julieta and Pepa gave birth the same year, twice! By the way, do we know at what age Pedro passed away?

I wonder what the song that's getting a reprise is. Maybe she sings in it as well.

Why isn't the reprise included in the soundtrack? Or is it included but just not listed? It's strange the press release for the soundtrack mentions a reprise but it's nowhere to be found in the track listing. What's up with that?

Reading that quote again made me wonder if this last musical number will be completely original or if musically it will be a mishmash of some of the earlier songs in the movie like Lin did in Moana with "I Am Moana", as it seems it's one of his trademarks. He also did something similar in Vivo.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I fully expect "All of You" to be another medley of his. Personally, I'm not fond of the practice, I prefer having an original song instead, but I suppose it can work depending on the execution.

I also wonder if "Dos Oruguitas" is going to be sung as a voiceover or if its performer will act as the voice of a character from the movie, like Abuelo Pedro, for example.

I'd prefer if Sebastian Yatra is the singing voice of Pedro and it's the character who sings the song, but that probably won't be the case going by LMM's comments about the song.

It surprised me that it was Lin-Manuel Miranda who called him to offer him the job and not one of the directors or producers.

It's not surprising considering how involved he was in all aspects of the film. It was revealed in interviews that Byron Howard, Jared Bush, and him crafted the story together. What I'm surprised by is that he wasn't given a co-director or story credit for the film.

I wonder if Bruno's will be closed off like that in the movie or if Mirabel's will have her name on it or if that's just for the posters.

Going by the clip from "The Family Madrigal", it seems Bruno's door won't be lit, but it won't be sealed off with planks like in the poster. The back cover of the D23 magazine shows the nursery's door without Mirabel's name on it, so I guess it was something they did just for the posters too.

What I also wonder now that we see Bruno's door is not lit up is if that has something to do with Mirabel's lack of powers.

I think it has to do with Bruno leaving Casita and/or the Encanto valley.

It's interesting too that Abuela Alma has her own magical door as well even though she doesn't have magical powers.

Either it's something made for the posters and she won't have one in the film or she will have one because she's the protector of the magical candle.

And how come Disney is submitting Free Guy for Best Picture and not any of their animated films? I know they have no chances of getting nominated, but neither does that film. I watched it recently on Disney+ and it was better than I expected, but it's not Oscar material. Also, why is Jungle Cruise totally absent from the awards website?

The FYC website is supposed to be for all awards, not just the Oscars, so maybe they believe Free Guy has a better chance of winning or getting nominated in comedy and action movie categories some associations have like the Golden Globes or the Critics' Choice Awards. As for Jungle Cruise, while it may not visible on the homepage, it does have a listing of its own. It's safe to say it will be submitted for Oscar consideration.

It's curious that the back features the first "60th Motion Picture" logo and not the most recent one. I wonder which one will be in front of the movie.

I think it will be the older one. It seems the new version is just for print materials.

I get the impression everyone is frozen in it, except for Mirabel, who is singing.

To me, it seems that Mirabel's imagining how it would be if she got her gift and her relatives were celebrating her.

Why do you think the duet between Mirabel and Isabela will be comedic?

The relationship between the two sisters as well as the title of the song gives me the impression it will be an uptempo, mostly humorous song where either they'll be trying to one up each other or they'll be airing their grievances. I expect it to be similar to "Life's Too Short", conceptually-speaking. I would have preferred if Isabela got a sincere solo or a love song duet with Mariano.

In my opinion, it doesn't make much sense to use that stylistic device here. It looks as if someone was following Mirabel around with a camera and they were shooting a making of video or something.

Agreed. Breaking the fourth wall never works unless it's embedded in the creative work's DNA from the start.

The fact that Mariano sings in the last musical number of the film, which I imagine is about everybody making up and celebrating they're united again as a family, makes me think they'll end up together. Although, I guess it's also possible they decide to be just friends.

That's good to learn. That makes me believe they'll just postpone their wedding instead of breaking up. They will need more time to date and get to know each other anew after everything that transpired.

[Farerb]

Why isn't the reprise included in the soundtrack? Or is it included but just not listed? It's strange the press release for the soundtrack mentions a reprise but it's nowhere to be found in the track listing. What's up with that?

The reprise of Almost There and the Healing Incantation (at the end when Flynn dies) were part of the score and didn't have their own track, it might be the same case here.

[Disney's Divinity]

@ the first reactions posted on the last page: Oh, Lord. If the music is worse than his previous works which I already found weak, my expectations are underground. I am glad it turns out Mirabel does have an "I Want" song at least.

I'm only sporadically reading things in this thread right now. I'll see this in two weeks, so no real need for updates. I'll be seeing it in Imax because that's the only theater I know close to a Target, and I want to pick up the exclusive of Adele's new album there for my mother's birthday while I'm out there (I'll be making a copy of it for myself for sure, lol).

[Sotiris]

If the music is worse than his previous works which I already found weak, my expectations are underground.

Have you watched Vivo or listened to its soundtrack? The music was very weak there including the song Netflix is submitting to the Oscars called "Inside Your Heart" which was utterly forgettable. His work for Moana was stronger. We'll see how Encanto's turns out.

[D82]

• The Disney Store merch is already available. Here are Mirabel singing doll (she sings "The Family Madrigal" too) and Isabela hair play doll:


Sources:
https://www.shopdisney.com/mirabel-sing ... 88832.html
https://www.shopdisney.com/isabela-hair ... 88917.html


• New promo, TV spot and short clip featuring Mirabel and Bruno.


• Disney UK has released the "The Family Madrigal" clip with lyrics.


• Jared Bush shared his mother's reaction after hearing the song "Dos Oruguitas".


• According to a journalist who has seen the movie, "Colombia, mi Encanto" not only plays over the end credits, but also at the very beginning of the film. That same person also says that a pre-existing song by Colombian artist Joe Arroyo is featured in the movie as well.


• Better look at the wrap party invitation:


Source: https://twitter.com/fonziewonzie/status ... 6841818116


• Second batch of reactions from critics. They're also very positive. The most negative one I've read so far is this one and it's still favorable. Though, I've learned not to trust early reactions too much. We'll see what the full reviews look like. The review embargo will lift next Monday, November 15.

It looks like people are a bit divided on the songs, though. Three more people from this batch didn't like them (last three reactions).

https://twitter.com/DisneyMusings23/sta ... 4963259403
https://twitter.com/msdanifernandez/sta ... 5313401859
https://twitter.com/ThatsITLA/status/14 ... 6733871105
https://twitter.com/DonaldConley83/stat ... 3417084928
https://twitter.com/joemnmovieman/statu ... 7870238721
https://twitter.com/Rendy_Jones/status/ ... 6270087175
https://twitter.com/Klee_FilmReview/sta ... 6296101890
https://twitter.com/RussMilheim/status/ ... 0525631490
https://twitter.com/_atowers/status/1458084476534337543
https://twitter.com/JonNegroni/status/1 ... 2060801027
https://twitter.com/childe_dirk/status/ ... 6533878784
https://twitter.com/YourCinemaGuy/statu ... 8402285568
https://twitter.com/StanfordClark/statu ... 5328022528
https://twitter.com/FeelinFilm/status/1 ... 6303052800
https://twitter.com/ryanmcquade77/statu ... 9816340480
https://twitter.com/gaby_burgos27/statu ... 2014984192
https://twitter.com/rachel_reviews/stat ... 8193531913
https://twitter.com/rosasreviews/status ... 2868170756
https://twitter.com/popetheking/status/ ... 3410268160
https://twitter.com/dattm18/status/1457908822664785925
https://twitter.com/CaitDoes/status/1458058498118496258
https://twitter.com/OhMyMithrandir/stat ... 7769295873


By the way, I read your post, Sotiris, and I've started writing my replies to some of the things you said, but I still haven't finished. I'll post it when I have all of them.

[Disney's Divinity]

If the music is worse than his previous works which I already found weak, my expectations are underground.

Have you watched Vivo or listened to its soundtrack? The music was very weak there including the song Netflix is submitting to the Oscars called "Inside Your Heart" which was utterly forgettable. His work for Moana was stronger.

Thankfully not. I know Moana was better than In the Heights. I haven't seen In the Heights on Broadway or the film either (yet, but I would like to, which is unlike me with him involved). I only heard a few songs from it via Jordin Sparks when she was briefly in the show, and I did not care for what I heard. Still, the film, its logo and acting, looked sort of impressive despite the music (although I may be mistaken if it flopped), which is why I'd like to see it.

I'll be honest, I'm not even that fond of Hamilton, which put him on the map, although I can at least understand why that one was popular. There were at least a few songs from it that I liked--"It's Quiet Uptown," in particular.

[D82]

New promos:

https://twitter.com/EncantoMovie/status ... 6348070915
https://twitter.com/EncantoMovie/status ... 9109800963

Doesn't this moment from the first one remind you of a similar one in a famous Disney song?

[Sotiris]

That same person also says that a pre-existing song by Colombian artist Joe Arroyo is featured in the movie as well.

I've always hated the practice of including pre-existing songs in original musicals. Not only can it be confusing as to who wrote which song, but it's also insulting to the songwriters working on the project (provided it wasn't their idea, of course). Why not have the musicians you're already paying to come up with a song in the same style as the one you want instead of licensing it? That's much more creative and interesting.

Better look at the wrap party invitation.

I just noticed that Isabela is wearing a new dress there. There are green and orange splotches in each side of it. This must be from the end of the movie. It looks like Isabela will feel more free to experiment and express herself and become less concerned about looking perfect.

New promos.

The part with the plates coming down from the shelves and moving on their own reminded of Be Our Guest. An intentional nod?

Doesn't this moment from the first one remind you of a similar one in a famous Disney song?

I wonder from which part of the film that scene is. It's been theorized it's from "Waiting on a Miracle", but I'm not so sure given how the "Waiting on a Miracle" sequence comes early on in the film before the cracks to the house appear. Here we see Casita re-appearing which suggests this takes place after the house gets destroyed. Also, I find it interesting they're presenting Bruno as a sinister figure initially, before revealing he's not. It's like a reverse twist villain.

[Sotiris]

The Brazilian Instagram account for Cinemark is calling Mirabel a princess.


Source: https://www.instagram.com/stories/cinem ... 852668727/