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thedisneyspirit wrote:Sooo, anyone think if they end up casting Miranda for Sebastian, he's gonna get an extended role at the expense of other characters?
Yes.
Sotiris wrote: People think that because he's constantly saying in interviews how much he loves the character and how he named his son after him. Personally, I doubt he'll cast himself as Sebastian because a) he's socially aware and knows there'll be backlash if a Black character is portrayed by a Latino even if that character is a crab and b) he would want an on-screen role and not just a voice acting gig. Grimsby is more likely or a new character.
Perhaps that's why "they" decided Ariel must be black here to the point they auditioned only black stars, so it wouldn't be a big deal when a Latino takes the one black role from the original.
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If anything, I would have preferred a black Belle, since her features were more inherently black; big lips and brown eyes. Ariels look is as iconic as Cinderella, you wouldn't give Cinderella brown hair or have her be black. You have her be a white girl with fair hair. Her pale skin, blue eyes and red hair are just as much a part of her features as her mermaids tail and fun personality.

I don't think it's a good decision really. But if they don't give her red hair, I'm gonna find this casting very bizarre, considering I read they didn't even begin looking for a redhead white girl, they always wanted a black girl.
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WarriorDreamer wrote:If anything, I would have preferred a black Belle, since her features were more inherently black.
While I don't think Belle had Black features I also would have preferred a Black Belle over a Black Ariel. Maybe it's because I'm more used to it after Toni Braxton played Belle on Broadway or because of the film "Belle" starring Gugu Mbatha-Raw. I thought Gugu looked great in that film.

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WarriorDreamer wrote:But if they don't give her red hair, I'm gonna find this casting very bizarre, considering I read they didn't even begin looking for a redhead white girl, they always wanted a black girl.
I believe they will give her red hair but that's not enough for me. They need to give her the iconic '80s hairstyle. If the actress has dreads in the film like she does in real life, it will be really disappointing.
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Sotiris wrote:
WarriorDreamer wrote:But if they don't give her red hair, I'm gonna find this casting very bizarre, considering I read they didn't even begin looking for a redhead white girl, they always wanted a black girl.
I believe they will give her red hair but that's not enough for me. They need to give her the iconic '80s hairstyle. If the actress has dreads in the film like she does in real life, it will be really disappointing.
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If she looks like this it could be okay. Still though, her white skin gives her a look of delicacy.
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WarriorDreamer wrote:How do you know may I ask!?
It's just an assumption. They wouldn't dare not give her red hair.
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What is with her eyebrows in that picture you posted, WarriorDreamer? They don't even look like hair, they look like they were done by a marker? EDIT: Oh, I see you deleted the image. It looked like there was something drawn on her forehead, too. :? I suppose where her hair was pulled back and it would've looked odd otherwise? I have no idea.
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Sotiris wrote:
farerb wrote:He didn't do it in Moana, why would he do it here?
People think that because he's constantly saying in interviews how much he loves the character and how he named his son after him. Personally, I doubt he'll cast himself as Sebastian because a) he's socially aware and knows there'll be backlash if a Black character is portrayed by a Latino even if that character is a crab and b) he would want an on-screen role and not just a voice acting gig. Grimsby is more likely or a new character.

I wouldn't be satisfied if anyone under 75 played Grimsby.

There already plenty of roles for young people in movies but not as many for old.

Also older actors have had a life time of experience perfecting their skills so it's nice to have at least one older actor in every major movie.

Miranda could play The Seahorse Herald.
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I really wish they uesd the abandoned plot theard of Ursula being Triton's sister in this movie.

The can even use her backstory from the misucal where she got half the sea and trion the other half be she used her powers to do bad thinfs so she was banished.

"I Want the Good Times Back" – is my favorite of the songs made for the stage version.

If i they don't use it in this movie which i dout they will. I think Ursula should get anew second song. Just beacuse Ursula is so fun to watch and i want more of her.

And they will likely want to add at least one new song. So why don't give it to the most enjoyable character .

I dout that many want a solo for Flunder or a song for Scuttle.
If i was in charge of making this movie i would cut Chef Louis and give all the extra screen time to Ursula and replace "Les Poissons( easly the weakst song in the movie) with a secend song for Ursula.

Also acually think several songs from the stage version are better than Les Poissons.

That maybe blasphemy.

Maybe they could give Flotsam and Jetsam thier own song ?

Also on an unralated note "Human Stuff" from stage musical is such ear wrom. It's like Everything is awsome you just can't get out of your head.
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DisneyFan97 wrote: I wouldn't be satisfied if anyone under 75 played Grimsby.
I don't expect Eric's advisor in this film to be anything like the character in the animated film, possibly not even called Grimsby. Somehow I doubt that the advisor character being much younger + McCarthy being nowhere near 60-70 like Ursula is + a Triton that's at least 30 years too young will be labeled "ageist" the way it deserves. For as much as Disney will pat themselves on the back for casting a black Ariel, what about the plight of older, female actors in Hollywood? They don't even get to play a crone / witch in fairy tales anymore, apparently. So much for all these faux wins for diversity.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:What is with her eyebrows in that picture you posted, WarriorDreamer? They don't even look like hair, they look like they were done by a marker? EDIT: Oh, I see you deleted the image. It looked like there was something drawn on her forehead, too. :? I suppose where her hair was pulled back and it would've looked odd otherwise? I have no idea.
There's 2 pictures posted of Halle as Ariel fan art.
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DisneyFan97 wrote: I wouldn't be satisfied if anyone under 75 played Grimsby.
I don't expect Eric's advisor in this film to be anything like the character in the animated film, possibly not even called Grimsby. Somehow I doubt that the advisor character being much younger + McCarthy being nowhere near 60-70 like Ursula is + a Triton that's at least 30 years too young will be labeled "ageist" the way it deserves. For as much as Disney will pat themselves on the back for casting a black Ariel, what about the plight of older, female actors in Hollywood? They don't even get to play a crone / witch in fairy tales anymore, apparently. So much for all these faux wins for diversity.
Thinking about it Disney has never cast a disabled actor ever i believe. That's kind os strange . It's also a kind diversity.

if Triton is young and Ursula is young too. At lleast make Grismby old..

Aklso when making Maleficent they made two of the 3 faries young. i think that's ageism.

Quasimodo should at least be played by a disabald and or defored actor. ableism is a horroible thing.

Also Disney should at least have one non-neurotypical character and or actor.

In all disney movies i can't think of any canocial non-neurotypical character.

Altough a have lots of headcanons. Ask me about them some time on this forum.

Universal's Little Mermaid was supposed to ha trans model as one of Ariel's sisters. fittin since some have compared the story of Little Mermaid to the experience of changing gender.
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Here are more examples of fan art of Halle as Ariel:

Fans Are Drawing Amazing Art Inspired By Halle Bailey Being Cast As Ariel In "The Little Mermaid" https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/da ... mobile_app
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I did see one earlier that looked okay. I can't remember the name of the artist--Bosszero or something? Anyway, it's of Ariel lifting herself out of the water and there's some guy sitting on a rock being attacked by a shark in the background on the right ( :lol: ). The only other one I've seen was trying to re-create the moment in the middle of POYW when she swims to the top with her hair flowing behind her and it was unsurprisingly hideous.
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Sotiris wrote:
WarriorDreamer wrote:If anything, I would have preferred a black Belle, since her features were more inherently black.
While I don't think Belle had Black features I also would have preferred a Black Belle over a Black Ariel. Maybe it's because I'm more used to it after Toni Braxton played Belle on Broadway or because of the film "Belle" starring Gugu Mbatha-Raw. I thought Gugu looked great in that film.
http://i.imgur.com/cI8JbhAl.jpg
I remember a lot of people said back then that Gugu Mbatha-Raw was the better choice to play Belle. She's certainly more beautiful than Emma Watson, and I've seen lots of her roles since then and she's a great actress, certainly better than Hermione 2.0. I actually think it was a lost opportunity to have had her in the lead, although maybe her singing wouldn't have been any better than Emma's since I don't remember her doing much in the film as Plumette.
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When do you think casting for the major roles will be done. Can we expect to know who's playing all the lead roles as early as by steptember ?

Or do you think all roles won't be cast until january 2020 ?
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Ursula, Triton, Sebastian, and Eric are left as the major roles alongside Flotsam, Jetsam, and any versions of Carlotta and Grimsby they might include. They've been creating new characters for each live-action remake so far (Cinderella, BATB, Aladdin, The Lion King, etc.) so it's safe to say that there'll be new characters here as well.
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DisneyFan97 wrote:When do you think casting for the major roles will be done. Can we expect to know who's playing all the lead roles as early as by steptember ?

Or do you think all roles won't be cast until january 2020 ?
TBH, I'm surprised they didn't announce everyone the past couple of days. Announcing Bailey already ripped the band-aid off. It's not like it's going to get worse--or better--from here, so what are they waiting for?
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So Terry Crews just posted a picture on Twitter of himself as Triton claiming he’s Ariel’s dad. Can’t tell if it’s a joke or confirmation. I hadn’t thought of him but i’m actually all for it.
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lucifer wrote:So Terry Crews just posted a picture on Twitter of himself as Triton claiming he’s Ariel’s dad. Can’t tell if it’s a joke or confirmation. I hadn’t thought of him but i’m actually all for it.
I don’t think it’s serious. If it were, he’d have tagged an official Disney twitter and there would have been an announcement on some channel of some sort. He’s actually not a bad choice. Never would’ve thought of him either, but he’s a great choice and would bring exactly the kind of heart the role needs if he could play it serious enough.
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thedisneyspirit wrote:Also what if they had made Cinderella black, Duster, would you have liked that? Though maybe that would've been too similar to Tiana and the Frog.
I would not have liked that, no. My reasons of course are I want her to look like the Cinderella I fell in love with looked, also how a historically accurate European wealthy girl would look, how an "innocent" and "angelic" character would look (blonde hair), which of course a black actress could have, but it wouldn't be natural. However, if they cast a black actress for Cinderella I still would have loved the movie.
Disney's Divinity wrote:The only other one I've seen was trying to re-create the moment in the middle of POYW when she swims to the top with her hair flowing behind her and it was unsurprisingly hideous.
So at first you say you are glad about the casting decision, then you agree with NotMyAriel and say "Screw Disney" and call the film trash, and now you say the art of her as Ariel was not just hideous because of bad art, but because her as Ariel would be hideous anyway. I guess Disney brings justice that you think the live-action version of your favorite movie is trash already and so much has been revealed about you.
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