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Widdi wrote:
You realize the movie that is featured in both your avatar and signatutre deals very heavily with voodoo?
Seems a little hypocritical.
Thank you for pointing that out.
My avatar and banner was of the 1st pirate’s movie, I purposely did not use the 2nd and 3rd movie because of the voodoo etc, and I don’t really watch them at home either because of it. But I guess your right the 1st one does have black magic in it with the curse thing doesn’t it? I guess I’ll have to find myself a new favourite Disney, thanks for pointing that out to me :) .
ajmrowland wrote: What makes your family not like voodoo?
With voodoo you can invite all sorts of evil into your home and your life, the same with palm reading and tarot cards etc. That might sound stupid to some of you but its true. In The princess and the frog he sings about his “friends” on the other side, and no matter how fun or innocent you try to make it there are no “friends” on that side.
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I rented and watched When In Rome last night. I liked it- it was funny and cute! Not the best romcom I've seen, but I liked it.
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Invited a few friends over to watch some "scary" movies.

The People Under the Stairs - This started out a little slow, but by the end everyone in the room wanted more. I loved it! Definitely in my Top 10 Favorite Horror movies, even though there's a little comedy thrown in. A.J. Langer was seriously awesome, and she needs to be in more things. Highly recommended.

Session 9 - I was told this was "one of the most terrifying movies ever." It wasn't. Yes, Mary/Simon/Princess/Billy's voice was extremely scary, but I don't think nightmare-inducing. It was also very hard to follow.

Shriek If You Know What I Did Last Friday the 13th - Okay, so not horror, but a parody! :P I found this to be better than the Scary Movie series. Julie Benz, Majandra Delfino, and Tiffani-Amber Thissen were great, as awlays. I laughed out a loud multiple times, lol.
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PeterPanfan wrote:Session 9 - I was told this was "one of the most terrifying movies ever." It wasn't. Yes, Mary/Simon/Princess/Billy's voice was extremely scary, but I don't think nightmare-inducing. It was also very hard to follow.
When a person grows up, which I suspect you have, they stop getting scared by horror movies. I've been scared by fewer than 20 horror films in my lifetime of having seen almost a thousand or more.

PeterPanfan wrote:Shriek If You Know What I Did Last Friday the 13th - Okay, so not horror, but a pardoy! :P I found this to be better than the Scary Movie series. Julie Benz, Majandra Delfino, and Tiffani-Amber Thissen were great, as awlays. I laughed out a loud multiple times, lol.
Yes, initially it is a funnier movie than Scary Movie.
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Black pearl wrote:With voodoo you can invite all sorts of evil into your home and your life, the same with palm reading and tarot cards etc. That might sound stupid to some of you but its true. In The princess and the frog he sings about his “friends” on the other side, and no matter how fun or innocent you try to make it there are no “friends” on that side.
Er... that's why he's the *bad guy*?

Oh... and you do know that whatever you see projected inside the magic box isn't going to come out of it into your living room, right?
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Goliath wrote:
Black pearl wrote:With voodoo you can invite all sorts of evil into your home and your life, the same with palm reading and tarot cards etc. That might sound stupid to some of you but its true. In The princess and the frog he sings about his “friends” on the other side, and no matter how fun or innocent you try to make it there are no “friends” on that side.
Er... that's why he's the *bad guy*?

Oh... and you do know that whatever you see projected inside the magic box isn't going to come out of it into your living room, right?
This stuff is very touchy with a lot of peaple Goliath as you proably know. Heck I know one guy who wouldn't let their kid see Harry Potter the movie but he and my dad went to see Hanibal around the same time as the dad said he won't let HP into his house because it's the devil....magic.... :roll:

Also I've known a family that doesn't allow their children to watch even Certain Disney Films as The Hunchback or Notre dame because becauseo fo the scenes in it and they didn't do anything for halloween becaue they think it's pure evil

Though no joke the same familiy Did watch the 90s series of Gargoyles together :brick:

where really Halloween its just a day to get some candy in costumes....I highly doubt where going to see a Kid Trick or treating killing people because the Devil went into his mind because he was just trick or treating on Halloween.
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disneyboy20022 wrote:This stuff is very touchy with a lot of peaple Goliath as you proably know.
Oh yeah, I know, there's lots of kooks out there. But I'm not going to tip-toe around certain issues because of them.
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It's been a while since I've seen a movie (Toy Story 3 was the last thing I watched). I've been a little busy so I picked up a couple of comedies at the library to help relieve the stress:

She's Out of My League (2010) 7/10 - it was better then I thought it would be. The characters were alright as far as acting and chemistry and Jay Baruchel was, well...Jay Baruchel. The movie is basically Jay hooking up with a hot chick (not quit the 10 they make her out to be but beauty is subjective) and he runs into problems due to his low self-esteem brought on by his idiot friend (Hud from Cloverfield). You pretty much know how this ends from the start but it was an entertaining ride. There was some moments when I was laughing pretty hard (a certain shaving scene) and I appreciate that it dodged some obvious clichés. I have to give props for the Disney nerd as he's exactly how I'd imagine one to be. I also have to give it props for being funny without being overly raunchy and ridiculous as many comedies seem to be, in which they come off as trying too hard. Bottom line, it was good.

Hot Tub Time Machine (2010) 6/10 - the idiots comparing this to The Hangover need punched in the face. Seriously, while The Hangover was really pushing believability (like Superbad), it was alway grounded in the reality that it could possibly happen (unlike Hot Tub Time Machine, which is just ridiculous). The characters are stereotypes that barely have any kind of development or chemistry (the stereotypes are just pushed soo far over-the-top that I felt a disconnect) and the story is full of clichés straight to the end, so I'm not sure where The Hangover comparisons are coming from. It's just not as funny or engaging and while The Hangover kept me guessing to the very end as to what the hell was going to happen next, I pretty much stayed ahead of the characters the whole way through Hot Tub (was I seriously the only person that predicted the douche bag was going to be the nerd's father at the beginning of the movie when they were walking together?). That said, it did entertain me and make me laugh a few times, but it was as predictable (and stale) as most Will Ferrell comedies.
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Inception.

'Twas good. Not Christopher Nolan's best, but I liked it.
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2099net, have you read any of the Irene Adler mysteries from Carole Nelson Douglas (she also writes the Midnight Louie mysteries.)

I personally feel that she did a great job with the Irene Adler character, and while the earlier books split from the Holmes stories, she does use Holmes a bit more in the later books...

I've heard that other writers have run with the Irene Adler character, some of them making her out to be one step above a whore patterned after Sarah Bernhardt, others having her marry Holmes (and their kid being Nero Wolfe, or someone like that...)
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littlefuzzy wrote:2099net, have you read any of the Irene Adler mysteries from Carole Nelson Douglas (she also writes the Midnight Louie mysteries.)

I personally feel that she did a great job with the Irene Adler character, and while the earlier books split from the Holmes stories, she does use Holmes a bit more in the later books...

I've heard that other writers have run with the Irene Adler character, some of them making her out to be one step above a whore patterned after Sarah Bernhardt, others having her marry Holmes (and their kid being Nero Wolfe, or someone like that...)
No I've not read any of them, but that's not my main point. There's nothing wrong with taking Irene Adler (or other characters) and writing more stories, with or without Holmes. I personally wanted Alan Moore to make her part of his League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. As I said, there's no point in getting worked up simply over characters being reinvented for different stories/times. For example, the BBC is doing a modern day Sherlock series starting this week, and I'm certain that the soon to be released Tom and Jerry Meet Sherlock Holmes will rock!

However, I take offence that all of the publicity for the Richie Sherlock Holmes has basically lied about it's content. There will be people who, not being familiar with the originals, will think the film is an accurate copy of them. Which I think is wrong. This Adler has almost no relation to the Adler in the original canon, who, despite only appearing once has a greater legacy with Holmes than Moriarty (if we are to base a character's impact on mentions in other stories)!

Anyhow...

The Invention of Lying
I understand Gervais is generally a love him or hate him king of guy, and I'm not really going to change anyone's views with a short review on an internet forum; especially if you think Gervais is nothing but a smug bastard which is how he sometimes comes across (although I think this is simply him playing a "character" at awards shows and the like).

I enjoyed this film a lot, but I'm not unaware of its several logical flaws. If you think about the film too much, it all falls apart. For a start people don't just always tell the truth, but feel compelled to blurt out the truth for no reason. Yes, it makes for a few funny moments, but mostly it just doesn't work. The concept of a society where people tell only the truth, while far-fetched, could just about work. The same society where people unrestrained vocalise their thoughts, not so much. It's taking the fiction a little to far in what was always going to be a concept asking for viewers to withhold some of their disbelief.

The same is also true for the final act. If Gervais' character basically invented religion, where does the church come from where the marriage is going to take place? Was it just built? Did they have marriage before? Gervais' character mentions about not having sex before marriage, so its sort of implied they did, and I guess its implied the function was taken from the state to the religion as a result of Gervais' characters jealous attempt to stop Jennifer Garner from sleeping with Rob Low. But when viewing the film, it just seems wrong, as does several other incidents. The world building of a world with no lies just isn't consistent.

But its not really a film about a world with no lies. It's not really a comedy as such, more of a drama-comedy. There's some really quite moving moments in here, as Gervais continues to increasingly mix comedy with drama in his writings. I'm not sure if its an anti-religion or a pro-religion parable to be honest. While I think it clearly saying all organised religion is "made-up", it's not necessarily condemning organised religion. After all, this religion is created specifically to ease the suffering and worry of Gervais' mother, and the commandments he devises are all done so to make society and his world a better place. And yet, the religion he started does get out of hand. Ultimately, any religion is about faith, there are no absolutes. In a world where there is no lying, there can be no faith either.

How to Loose Friends and Alienate People
Now, I have never read any of Toby Young's writings, but he's a reasonably regular face on British TV these days often commenting on political or entertainment issues. And, boy, doesn't Simon Pegg as Sidney Young capture many of Toby's mannerisms?

Sadly, that seems to be all of Toby that the film does capture. Now, like I say, I've not read any of Toby's writings, including the memoirs the film is based on, but I know that in person, today, Toby has more teeth than this film did. And I would expect Toby to somewhat have mellowed with age.

This film just didn't seem to have the conviction of its satire - it never went far enough. It seemed to be content to do the odd poke and prod at the cult of celebrity, but never had the strength to outright attack it. I guess some of that could be down to certification considerations (but IMDB says it was already an R in the states, so I don't really see what they could loose by having a little more conviction).

Its an okay film I suppose, it moves along nicely, but I was constantly expecting more. Harder swipes at its targets, a little darker, blacker comedy, proper rants about how the media creates and kow-tows to celebrities. And I got nothing. Which makes the film a disappointment.
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Goliath wrote:
disneyboy20022 wrote:This stuff is very touchy with a lot of peaple Goliath as you proably know.
Oh yeah, I know, there's lots of kooks out there. But I'm not going to tip-toe around certain issues because of them.
Same here. But it's not just an issue dealing with insanity. In fact, it's more about willful ignorance.

Not to mention - I don't know if this applies to "Black Pearl" (though I wouldn't put it past them) - a lot of people talk this nonsense "Evil" talk to brag about how pure they are of anything they think is related to "The Devil." Oh, please! If that makes you good, you are actually suggesting other people are bad. For... watching a freaking movie?
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Inception - I think this movie garners a second viewing just to take in all the WTF-ness going on here. I really like Leo, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ellen Page, and Marion Cotillard, but I won't be rushing back to the theater for a second viewing.
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Die Fälscher (2007)

A film about jews in the concentrationcamps that's not overly depressing (Schindler's List), nor overly light (Life is beautiful)? This is it. It's the story of Salamon Sorowitz, Germany's most famous counterfeiter, who gets arrested in Berlin in 1936. He's sent to the concentrationcamps, but he can save his life because of his skills in forgery. The nazi's want to recreate the British pound and the American dollar and Salamon gets to lead a group of jewish pisoners which is trying to accomplish this. While at the other end of the camp prisoners are worked to death or executed at random, Salamon and his group enjoy extensive priviliges. But one of the workers refuses to help the nazi's war effort and starts to sabotage the production, risking the lives of all of them...

The pledge (2001)

Surprised to see it rated below '7' on IMDb. A very good thriller/crime story/drama/character study by director Sean Penn, helped by another solid performance by Jack Nicholson. Especially the end will haunt you for a while.
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disneyboy20022 wrote:
I too am a Christian however when I see movies like Pirates or sometimes they have black magic in them..I simply say they are just movies and a movie is just a story being told. It's okay to have fun watching movies. . The Big hype about Harry Potter being evil and god says no to potter I think is silly. It's just a movie.
I am concerned about the comment you made about it being okay to have fun watching movies that have voodoo, witchcraft etc, considering we share the same faith.
The bible says in Deuteronomy 18:10 (niv). “Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practises divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the lord” God clearly finds these things detestable and not fun. It is the enemy who says these things are just a bit of harmless fun in an attempt to deceive people into not following Gods word.
I suggest you retract that statement from the board.
To backup with other verses, Isaiah 5:20 “woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter”.
2 Timothy 2:19, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness”. I thought I should point this out to you in case you didn’t realise, I hope this is helpful to you.
pap64 wrote:adults have the right to know about it, make an educated opinion
However pumping it through a U rated film is one sided. I agree about an educated decision 100% and I know no better place to get info than the bible, and the bible also agrees with you that you have the right to make your choices whether right or wrong, this is where free choice comes in.
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Oh... and you do know that whatever you see projected inside the magic box isn't going to come out of it into your living room, right?
wrong! :(

Once again the discussion has gone off topic, if anyone wants to discuss this matter further you are more than welcome to start a thread in off topic and I will do my best to answer any legitimate questions, bear in mind I am only human, Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, Romans 3:9 what then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin. So where do people get the idea we think we are better than them? if you want perfection look to God :) .
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disneyboy20022 wrote:
I too am a Christian however when I see movies like Pirates or sometimes they have black magic in them..I simply say they are just movies and a movie is just a story being told. It's okay to have fun watching movies. . The Big hype about Harry Potter being evil and god says no to potter I think is silly. It's just a movie.
I am concerned about the comment you made about it being okay to have fun watching movies that have voodoo, witchcraft etc, considering we share the same faith.
The bible says in Deuteronomy 18:10 (niv). “Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practises divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the lord” God clearly finds these things detestable and not fun. It is the enemy who says these things are just a bit of harmless fun in an attempt to deceive people into not following Gods word.
I suggest you retract that statement from the board.
Let me take this opportunity to emphatically agree with Disneyboy's statement. As a diehard horror fan myself, I can clearly vouch for two communities (the other being Disney, since true Disney fans share a passion for creative depictions of evil and the glamour of the classic Disney villains) when I say it's a lot of fun to indulge in entertainment certain people find evil or deem inappropriate. As a matter of fact, people like you create interest in things you demonize just by being so vocal about them.

So howzabout we reach a compromise? Armed with the knowledge I've just given you- why don't you stop insulting our intelligences and cut the Holy routine, MMMkay? Nobody here needs you to save their souls. And you are not in any way a spokesperson for Disney's interests either. So I happen to find it a conflict of interests that you are on this board. I'm sure you don't want to hear more about that. So let's get down to business, talk facts rather than heresay, and save the gossip and chit chat for Church.
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Lazario wrote:
Black pearl wrote: I am concerned about the comment you made about it being okay to have fun watching movies that have voodoo, witchcraft etc, considering we share the same faith.
The bible says in Deuteronomy 18:10 (niv). “Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practises divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the lord” God clearly finds these things detestable and not fun. It is the enemy who says these things are just a bit of harmless fun in an attempt to deceive people into not following Gods word.
I suggest you retract that statement from the board.
Let me take this opportunity to emphatically agree with Disneyboy's statement. As a diehard horror fan myself, I can clearly vouch for two communities (the other being Disney, since true Disney fans share a passion for creative depictions of evil and the glamour of the classic Disney villains) when I say it's a lot of fun to indulge in entertainment certain people find evil or deem inappropriate. As a matter of fact, people like you create interest in things you demonize just by being so vocal about them.

So howzabout we reach a compromise? Armed with the knowledge I've just given you- why don't you stop insulting our intelligences and cut the Holy routine, MMMkay? Nobody here needs you to save their souls. And you are not in any way a spokesperson for Disney's interests either. So I happen to find it a conflict of interests that you are on this board. I'm sure you don't want to hear more about that. So let's get down to business, talk facts rather than heresay, and save the gossip and chit chat for Church.
There are 2 pastors at my church...

One is a die-hard WWE Fan and also loves Star Wars and lots of movies as well...

Another Pastor at my church is a Trekkie and Also a Die-Hard Lord of the rings Fan.....So really my opinion or belief is as long as you don't take it out and go practice voo doo in real life. Or try to kill someone..I treat as pretend because the movies aren't really real....I know I have Jesus in my heart. Now Certain movies I dont' like just because well....I don't like that type of stuff such as Chucky or Child's Play or Freddie VS Jason...I for some reason just don't like overly horror films....but it's not because im a Christian. its because those movies don't really appeal to me. I'll talk to one of my pastors about this later in the week to see what their opinion is.
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Looks like I opened up a can of beans with a simple observation... bah, whateves...

Inception: 9/10

The ending ruined its perfect score for me. Sorry, but I think that ending is a cop-out no matter what variation of it is used. I hated it in movies like The Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland and I hate it here. Is it a slightly more creative approach? Yes; but it's still that effing ending.

Also the score of the film was basically a remix of The Dark Knight's. It distracted me a lot. I kept expecting bank robbers in clown masks to come swooping down at any moment.

Those negatives being said, the acting and story (up till the end) where top notch, though I could have used a little less explanative monolouges.
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disneyboy20022 wrote:my opinion or belief is as long as you don't take it out and go practice voo doo in real life.
Like the girls in Charmed? :P

disneyboy20022 wrote:I know I have Jesus in my heart.
I thought I had that too. Was just a bite of carrot. Went the wrong way.

disneyboy20022 wrote:Now Certain movies I dont' like just because well....I don't like that type of stuff such as Chucky or Child's Play or Freddie VS Jason...I for some reason just don't like overly horror films...
Bu-- Clu-- Whu--

How could the entire, rich cultural history of the single greatest genre of cinema (I don't think Disney is its' own genre exactly but... anyone disagree?) boil itself down in your eyes to one of the weakest Slasher icons in the book and a godawful piece of drek wrestling-styled action / CGI-polluted cartoon hybrid (which I would never endorse in a million years)? You can't possibly think they just invented the genre yesterday. How on Earth could that... disaster be one of the first 2 things that pop into your head when you think of horror? Oh, man- you've been brainwashed. No wonder you don't care for the genre. You don't know where to start.

You've probably already seen - Psycho? That's the perfect starter film. Along with Universal's Frankenstein. Also try Freaks, Cat People, White Zombie (if you can find it), The Wolf Man, The Haunting (1963), Bride of Frankenstein, I Walked with a Zombie, The Blob, Fall of the House of Usher (1960), The Innocents, The Mummy, The Pit and the Pendulum (1961), Invasion of the Body Snatchers, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane, Tales of Terror, Night of the Living Dead, and for anything after the 60's... try The Fog (1980). Me and Loomis swear by it. It's on both our Top 10 favorite horror films' list.

Widdi wrote:Looks like I opened up a can of beans with a simple observation... bah, whateves...

Inception: 9/10

The ending ruined its perfect score for me. Sorry, but I think that ending is a cop-out no matter what variation of it is used. I hated it in movies like The Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland and I hate it here.
Um... The Wizard of Oz (though it's as dated as any movie will ever get) is perfect as it is. The ending is the whole point. Don't you remember what she says, that famous line at the end? That's the theme of the whole movie. How can you begrudge a movie something it can't do without?

And as for Alice in Wonderland - it was either that ending or she was going to be trapped there forever. She can't fly up the hole she dropped down into. It wouldn't make sense otherwise.

You need to be a little more careful with the word hate.
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Lazario wrote:
disneyboy20022 wrote:I know I have Jesus in my heart.
I thought I had that too. Was just a bite of carrot. Went the wrong way.
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Black pearl wrote:I agree about an educated decision 100% and I know no better place to get info than the bible,
In that case, you need to read up badly.
Black pearl wrote:and the bible also agrees with you that you have the right to make your choices whether right or wrong, this is where free choice comes in.
Unless you choose not to believe in God. Then 'his' people will slaughter you, right? It says so in the Old Testament. Even Jesus preached that he came to bring the sword.
Black pearl wrote:Once again the discussion has gone off topic, if anyone wants to discuss this matter further you are more than welcome to start a thread in off topic and I will do my best to answer any legitimate questions,
Why would we do that? You're only repeating Bible-verses. It's easy to parrot what you've read and what you were taught elsewhere. You might as well record it and play it again, and again, and again

Everybody has a right to believe what they want, but I find it insulting that you claim that the things 'disneyboy' writes is something of "the enemy". Does that make 'disneyboy' also an "enemy"? Who is this enemy anyway? I also think it's rude that you "suggest" that 'disneyboy' deletes his comments. Just because you're a religious fanatic, doesn't mean we all have to be.
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