The Frickin' Slipcover Discussion Thread Archive

[Luke]

Lilo and Stitch did NOT have a slipcover, right? I'm pretty sure it didn't, but can someone tell me so I can be sure?

Look at the first post of the thread. It doesn't get ANY easier than that.

[Lazario]

I was also going to suggest that someone just send BATBfan theirs. Since no one likes them and all.

Slipcovers offer no use to me, I agree with those that say they just take up room and rather useless. As far as collecting goes, they don't make your title worth any more money if you have the slip cover or not. I don't know what the big deal is.

You know, that eyeroll thing is quite annoying when you do it all the time. Or maybe it's not you I'm thinking of, someone here does it all the time.

Anyway, I think it's just got to be the Collector's aspect of it. And by the by, how could we know now how much DVDs with slipcovers (especially 2-disc packages, special / collector's editions, and the like) will be worth in the future? At any point, something in the market or public interest could change, and suddenly slipcovers are worth a buck or two (or 5 or 10) extra. I know it sounds silly, but stranger things have happened - which everyone can confirm.

How can you be offended by this... And it IS stealing!! It wouldn't be if you had purchased the new version, and had not gotten a slipcover for it... Do you steal dustjackets for books when your old books comes in new prints too?

This is obviously butting in, but why do you care so much? I know we're not all expected to feel the same way about things, but it does happen that the majority concensus is that slipcovers are cheap and very few people keep them. They're are extenuating circumstances.

And yes, of course this is one of those moments I hold my hands over my face because I can't believe what I'm hearing. Slipcovers are so popular that Disney won't replace them? Slipcovers are so valuable that taking one is considered stealing?? I wonder how much time you get in prison for that, how many hours of community service that is worth. That taking a slipcover is a crime - is it worthy of Fox and Sony making another one of those Warning Ads (like they did for Internet Piracy) that run on DVDs. "You Wouldn't Steal A Car! You Wouldn't Steal A Purse! You Wouldn't Steal A CD! Taking Slipcovers IS Stealing - Stealing Is Against the Law!" (you know those Ads I'm talking about!) I mean, I can only imagine Slipcover-Bootleggers, guys in trenchcoats with Slipcovers sticking out of their collar, Jamaican immigrants with tables on the sidewalk with Slipcovers on display ("2 for $1!"). The only questions left with this growing phenomena - 1) where can we get the generic brands? 2) do they come in different flavors / if you scratch them, do they smell? 3) if you "just add water," what happens? 4) can they be used as currency in third-world countries?

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

My theory remains from day 1:

Disney would've been better if they never made those stupid pieces of cardboard to begin with!

[Kram Nebuer]

LOL! I'd love a scratch-n-sniff slip cover!! But I'd never steal one...

You know, that eyeroll thing is quite annoying when you do it all the time. Or maybe it's not you I'm thinking of, someone here does it all the time.

You're right. That's dvdjunkie. It's in all his post whether the eyeroll is in the correct context or not. He could make a perfectly complimentary, amiable post but the will still be there. Don't take it personally, it's always going to be there and I don't think it's really directed specifically to anyone. That's like his mark, signature, John Hancock. You remember it's dvdjunkie with the eyeroll. It's like JENNYLASER (or w/e her name is) and her endless use of one liners and emoticons or Escapay and his pink elephants or crazy title (King of the Zulu People). It is quite annoying but I've just gotten used to it...

Anyhow, I like slip covers because they are pretty and humans have been and always will be attracted to aesthetics. I'm disappointed when there is no slip cover because I love the shiny, glossy look they give to my DVDs. I don't care if they take up space. Had I had a collection as large as the others on here, then maybe I'd care, but I don't. They may not give much value to the item as a collectors' item, but my materialistic quality makes me give them my own value. I don't care if others don't care I like to keep them. I like to keep them because they make me happy . We shouldn't be having this argument. It's like sequels...don't like it, don't watch it. Don't like it, don't worry.

What I don't understand is how some members "hate" slip covers (coughEscapaycough) yet they keep them stacked under a desk and freak out if the little brother touches them. I WANT YOUR USELESS TO YOU TOY STORY SLIP COVER DARNIT!!!!

[Lazario]

You're right. That's dvdjunkie. That's like his mark, signature, John Hancock.

Albeit, a hardly original one.

or Escapay and his pink elephants

I love the pink elephants. At least they're cute, cute is always clever if it remains cute.

Anyhow, I like slip covers because they are pretty and humans have been and always will be attracted to aesthetics.

Not necessarily. Get a load of this :



I don't know whether to put it on my book/video shelf, toss it in the oven (some of you know what I'm talking about), or return it to my local chapter of Satanists, Anonymous.

What I don't understand is how some members "hate" slip covers (coughEscapaycough) yet they keep them stacked under a desk and freak out if the little brother touches them.

It has to be fear. We don't want the kid mistaking them for candy and trying to eat them - candy is shiny and glossy too, you know.

[Kram Nebuer]

I don't know whether to put it on my book/video shelf, toss it in the oven (some of you know what I'm talking about), or return it to my local chapter of Satanists, Anonymous.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Okay that one is an exception! lol!

What I don't understand is how some members "hate" slip covers (coughEscapaycough) yet they keep them stacked under a desk and freak out if the little brother touches them.

It has to be fear. We don't want the kid mistaking them for candy and trying to eat them - candy is shiny and glossy too, you know.

Hmmmm maybe not...I think I'm old enough to tell the difference between slip covers and candy. I guess little brother implied child, hehe...

[271286]

Slipcovers are so valuable that taking one is considered stealing??

No they are not. But it's not allright to steal the bag the chips come in is it? The bag isnt worth anything... It's not ok to steal the jar olives comes in either just because it isnt worth anything.... What I mean is that when you purchase a DVD you have the right to get "the whole package" that means in this case the DVDs, the cover, case AND the slipcover... You are NOT entitled to get a slipcover if you dont purchase the product!

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I am fearfully frightened of phones, more or less fearfully frightened of strangers, and I was hoping if someone wanted to call and get me slipcovers for Alice in Wonderland Masterpiece Edition, and A Bug's Life Re-Issued Collector's Edition. Thanks if anyone could!

I hate strangers, I can't stand to sit by a stranger in a movie theater, either I have to sit at the end of the row, or have multiple people around me.

[DaveWadding]

Slipcovers are so valuable that taking one is considered stealing??

No they are not. But it's not allright to steal the bag the chips come in is it? The bag isnt worth anything... It's not ok to steal the jar olives comes in either just because it isnt worth anything.... What I mean is that when you purchase a DVD you have the right to get "the whole package" that means in this case the DVDs, the cover, case AND the slipcover... You are NOT entitled to get a slipcover if you dont purchase the product!

Geez. It's a piece of cardboard. Chill out.

[Lazario]

271286, I still think you missed the main point, which was- why you care so much. But being realistic (or practical) now, no one would steal a bag of chips for the bag itself, but a crazy person. And the more immediate concern is getting that person off the street, not fining them for stealing or locking them up for giving people bad ideas.

If you heard BATBfan stole a slipcover, how much would you really care? Would you squeal on them? Because, I'll bet you've done your fair share of dishonest things in your life. Why do you really care, are you a slipcover fanatic? Or maybe you're just being a little overzealous, perhaps? You squeal on someone for something that trivial, I squeal on you. So be glad you don't know me. Count your blessings and look the other way, it pays sometimes.

[Extremer3]

Just a while ago I purchased Bambi PE from Wal-Mart, no slip cover, to my disgust. Then about a month later I go into Best Buy, they have about 5 Bambi PE, and I think 2 of them had the slip covers. So I bought one there, took the slip cover off, and returned the Best Buy one without its slip cover to Wal-Mart. They got the exact same product they sold me back, and I received my slip cover.

I see nothing wrong with that, but I see your point on getting a slip cover without purchasing the title.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I am fearfully frightened of phones, more or less fearfully frightened of strangers, and I was hoping if someone wanted to call and get me slipcovers for Alice in Wonderland Masterpiece Edition, and A Bug's Life Re-Issued Collector's Edition. Thanks if anyone could!

I hate strangers, I can't stand to sit by a stranger in a movie theater, either I have to sit at the end of the row, or have multiple people around me.

Sorry, only if you live in Milford, Ohio, or Loveland, Ohio, or some place close to there.

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

You're right. That's dvdjunkie. That's like his mark, signature, John Hancock.

Albeit, a hardly original one.

Well hey, as the old saying goes, better to have one than none at all.

[Luke]

That taking a slipcover is a crime - is it worthy of Fox and Sony making another one of those Warning Ads (like they did for Internet Piracy) that run on DVDs. "You Wouldn't Steal A Car! You Wouldn't Steal A Purse! You Wouldn't Steal A CD! Taking Slipcovers IS Stealing - Stealing Is Against the Law!" (you know those Ads I'm talking about!)

I don't think we can give Fox and Sony credit for making those. Being on a steady diet of Disney DVDs, I assumed they were the ones behind it, but it seems to be a cross-studio thing, so presumably the FBI or MPAA is behind it. The spot is totally lame, though. And the ironic thing is that if you were stealing that DVD, you wouldn't have to put up with that as an automatically-played "preview."

[Pluto Region1]

Anyway, I think it's just got to be the Collector's aspect of it. And by the by, how could we know now how much DVDs with slipcovers (especially 2-disc packages, special / collector's editions, and the like) will be worth in the future?

That's it exactly at least for those of us who look at buying the DVDs as "collecting." A collector is interested in having the entire package - what came with it. Obviously the DVD with the slipcover would sell for more on the open market than the DVD that doesn't have its slipcover. (I will just leave it at that, otherwise we have to start a whole new thread about who's buying their DVDs for potential resale value).

THEREFORE, why would anyone WANT to get a slipcover for a DVD for which it was not issued? To me, that makes no sense. I used to sell KBD punk records on Ebay back in the late 1990s. Lots of variables to what the record was worth. Loosing the original jacket it came in would make the record worthless. Having a version with an "A" in the corner of the label or having a 1st run edition, etc., could make a huge difference in value. So to me, it makes no sense to order a slipcover for an edition of a DVD that wasn't issued one. (ie, a collector would not be interested in buying a DVD that has a slipcover that doesn't actually go with that edition).

However I think your suggestion is a good one - for those of you who don't care about the slipcovers, how about sending them to those of us who care and don't have them? We could have a slipcover trading thread or something.

Also. I doubt opened previously viewed Disney DVDs with slip covers (unless they are the platinum editions that are long OOP) are worth much on the open market. However an unopened Disney OOP with the original shrinkwrap AND slipcover could be worth something, depending on the title. (unopened Snow White with shrinkwrap and gatefold goes for $75)

Slipcovers are so popular that Disney won't replace them? Slipcovers are so valuable that taking one is considered stealing??

Well I think for Disney it is a matter of cost cutting - why should they provide free slipcovers? It costs them in shipping and handling and postage.

As for stealing: How can it be stealing if Disney is WILLING to give you the slipcover? I guess if it is begotten under false pretenses you can make that argument. I think the question is, is it ethical to take advantage of Disney to get a slipcover that doesn't go with the old edition you bought previously? I think if you told Disney its for the old edition, they would not give you the slipcover, and therefore to misrepresent the situation in order to obtain a free slipcover - well, you can probably argue its in effect, stealing. Or maybe thats just what they call a "con" job.

However, BATB DID buy an older edition at one time and perhaps feels cheated out of the slipcover. You know when you buy something at full price and later it goes on sale, you feel cheated. Some stores will even let you get a refund for the difference you paid and the sale price. So it all depends on how you want to look at it. From BATB's viewpoint, he/she bought the DVD and didn't get a slipcover. Now they are issuing it with a slipcover. Should BATB have to buy the DVD again just to get a slipcover?

[memnv]

I don't think it's stealing. The stores throw the slipcovers away after awhile and i've saw that with my own eyes. I saw a store manager from Target take them off and put then in a cart and bring them to the back. I don't think they are sending them back to Disney, they are throwing them in the trash can!

Still... How can you be offended by this... You cant demand to get a slipcover when you havent even bought the new version... And it IS stealing!! It wouldnt be if you had purchased the new version, and had not gotten a slipcover for it...

Do you steal dustjackets for books when your old books comes in new prints too?

You are correct about Target, they have a policy where they destroy them, they also destroy there greeting cards. My wife and I was a vendor(until a month ago) for our local target with Recycled Paper Greeting Cards, and the cards that did not sell including Christmas they would get a refund for, but instead of returning the cards they would destroy them.

[271286]

271286, I still think you missed the main point, which was- why you care so much.

I don't really care... I mean it's not my slipcover BATBfan1 is stealing... I dont live in the US... And NO, stealing a slipcover is not that big a deal, BUT trying justify stealing it on those terms is ridiculous...

I just think it's a bit sad that someone starts a topic to bitch about not getting something that the person isn't really entitled to get! That's all...

[dvdjunkie]

A true collector will not buy something that is still sealed. They want to know that the product is there. I have watched previously issued Disney DVD's with slipcovers sell for about the same or maybe a dollar more than the one without the slipcover, but they all have to be without the shrinkwrap. A collector wants to make sure that what is advertised is in the container.

I also have sold tons of records and CDs on eBay, and it is true that the real collector cares what issue it is. There is a way of telling if the record is original or reissue by master numbers, and these collectors are pretty shrewd in their knowledge of what is what.

Take it from me, as a collector who pays good money for the things I want, it better not be in shrink wrap, if it is, you will open it up and show me what is inside.

[MadonnasManOne]

I don't really care... I mean it's not my slipcover BATBfan1 is stealing... I dont live in the US... And NO, stealing a slipcover is not that big a deal, BUT trying justify stealing it on those terms is ridiculous...

I just think it's a bit sad that someone starts a topic to bitch about not getting something that the person isn't really entitled to get! That's all...

Exactly! I mean, how can BATBfan1 complain about not getting something that he/she didn't even purchase in the first place? It's not the piece of cardboard, it's the principle.

[littlefuzzy]

Every slip cover and tin I have bought so far has gone to recycling. Just taking up shelf space unnecessarily.

I can *kind of* understand someone throwing away the slipcovers... They are a limited thing, and later on the discs are sold new without the slipcovers. However, I can't believe that someone would throw away the tins!! For instance, the Walt Disney Treasures would greatly increase in value with the tins, since there are so many bootlegs out there without the tins. Sure, the first couple of waves also had the Costco box set, which didn't come with tins, but many collectors want the tins to have a matching set.

However an unopened Disney OOP with the original shrinkwrap AND slipcover could be worth something, depending on the title. (unopened Snow White with shrinkwrap and gatefold goes for $75)

Snow White with a slipcover??? That would be a definite bootleg... Unless you are talking about a different region than R1.