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Found this on Instagram, probably fake. Still pretty :)

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Yeah, it's probably fake. I don't think they want to show her dress just yet.
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That better be fake. It's fine for a prom dress but not at all anything that would have been worn in the 18th century.
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That drawing of Emma Watson as Belle is fan art.

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Awesome. DB2, you're great for giving us these.

I'm rather dissapointed this looks just like the original animated film and is not trying to be very original...but hey, I'd rather have that than really bad looking original designs, and the original designs looked good, and, you know, looking like the original is good for our love for the original film, so...whatever lol.
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I agree with you, Duster. But in the end, it's better to just have the look of the original, as a nice tribute.
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I’m glad it’s going to be most likely like the original. But I wasn’t a fan of Cinderella (2015), and that was very little like the animated film. Hopefully Belle's dress here won't look as unimpressive as Cinderella's dress did in that.
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Yea, you're right Sicoe.

Divinity, the crazy thing is, I feel like the 2015 Cinderella Cinderella's ball dress looked like a blue version of Belle's gold one from the original animated Beauty and the Beast. I think it'll be interesting if Belle's gold dress tops that one. I hope they impress the same, as I actually did learn to love the 2015 Cinderella one, but I won't mind if it is even more beautiful than Cinderella's, or than I can imagine!
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I like that its a copy of the film / stage version of the dress. I think iconography - wise it has more of an impact, and stays in peoples minds more than rags that Cinderella wears. Belle is seen for most of the movie in them, the stage version, the shows in the parks, the character wears them in the park as well ... it just makes sense.

When Cinderella came out I was annoyed they didn't pay as much attention to the imagery of the Classic comparatively, but I can now see how beautiful the look was that they created. (Though personally, I still think the magic dress still bears zero resemblance to her mothers, but thats for the Cinderella thread :lol: )

So what I mean is, the costumes for Belle are immediately iconic, and I'm glad they aren't tampering with them.
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Cinderella’s dress (from the animated film) is also immediately iconic. The dress in the live-action film was like a prom dress. As far as I’m concerned, the less this movie follows Cinderella (2015)’s footsteps, the better it will be.
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I'm in agreement with you Atlantica about Belle's blue and gold dresses being iconic, and I didn't even realize how much until you said it, and I also felt the way you did about the 2015 Cinderella's look. I even agree on the blue dress not looking enough like the pink dress. What they should have done was have the basic idea of that pink dress but no bow in the back, no collar, and no big poofy droopy hanging sleeves. Instead, the kind of sleeves/neckline the blue one had, just not as beautiful, sectioned, or butterfly-ed.
Disney's Divinity wrote:Cinderella’s dress (from the animated film) is also immediately iconic. The dress in the live-action film was like a prom dress. As far as I’m concerned, the less this movie follows Cinderella (2015)’s footsteps, the better it will be.
Yes on the original dress being iconic, yes on the 2015 one looking a little like a prom dress but not that much (it really is too fancy, old, and regal, as, it's funny, they made a prom dress version of it for sale and seeing it, it doesn't fit enough with what actual prom dresses look like), and I still think it's a fantastic dress, but as for not being anything like the 2015 film, you gotta at least want the good reviews and success it had! Though this film will of course be more successful because the original has more fans.
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Disney Duster wrote:but as for not being anything like the 2015 film, you gotta at least want the good reviews and success it had! Though this film will of course be more successful because the original has more fans.
It was successful, but not nearly as successful as Alice in Wonderland or Maleficent. I'm confident B&tB--whatever the critics may say--will blow it out of the water. More interest, better cast, etc.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:but as for not being anything like the 2015 film, you gotta at least want the good reviews and success it had! Though this film will of course be more successful because the original has more fans.
It was successful, but not nearly as successful as Alice in Wonderland or Maleficent. I'm confident B&tB--whatever the critics may say--will blow it out of the water. More interest, better cast, etc.
I know you hated Cinderella, but it was very successful in its own right. For a movie without big names that anyone younger than 25 would care about and no 3D, it did very well domestically and internationally. It also began a second wave of live-action remake development. AIW and Maleficent may have made more money, but most critics and viewers seem to love Cinderella the most out of those three.

I think Beauty and the Beast will do better monetarily than Cinderella for sure, but since the animated film is so beloved, prepare for people not to love absolutely everything about the new version. It will be under a lot of scrutiny, i.e. Emma's singing. Truthfully, besides that, I have heard good things about the film from a couple of people.
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Let’s just be honest that Disney does not care about critics. They care about money. If they can get the critics along with the money, great, but money comes first with Disney always. *shrug*

Also, I forgot to include The Jungle Book, which also far outgrossed Cinderella. Maleficent did 250 million more than Cinderella, the other two twice as much as it. I'm not really concerned about scrutiny. Any criticisms of B&tB live-action by the same people who find the new Blanderella to be a masterpiece would sound incredibly hollow to me.
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Again, for a movie that did not have a 3D release, Cinderella did very well. What other female-led non-3D live-action film makes over $200,000,000 domestically?

As for Beauty and the Beast, I think all sorts of people will criticize every little thing because that's just how people are, especially Disney fans. I mean people here were complaining about Lin Manuel Miranda's involvement in The Little Mermaid, or even the fan art of Emma in the yellow ballgown (and that was just a fan art). At any rate, anything could change between now and March 17, but I was told Belle's keys were lowered for Emma, and I know that will cause people to complain. However, I know it will be a success nevertheless.
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I thought Cinderella was bland and super boring, but I'd consider it to be a big win for Disney financially.

The reported budget for it was around or slightly over half of the other live-action adaptations (just under $100 for Cinderella vs $175-200m for the other 3 films), and without the 3D premiums, I'd say making half of what the other ones did was probably around what was expected of it. (We have to remember that 3D is still pretty huge in many overseas markets, even if it has been declining in the US. Also, Alice especially benefited from the immediate post-Avatar effect, as I remember it having a crazy high 3D ticket sales vs. 2D).

With the very impressive successes of Cinderella and The Jungle Book, I'd honestly be surprised if Beauty and the Beast comes in under $1 billion.

It probably says something that this is the first one I'm genuinely interested in, even though, aside from a few added elements, it seems like they are aiming for a near complete rehash of the animated film. I'm sure I'm not the only one. That this will be a seemingly faithful remake of one of the iconic Renaissance films (most iconic?) is a huge thing going for it.
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Okay, can we just take a second to rewind:
Disney's Divinity wrote:It was successful, but not nearly as successful as Alice in Wonderland or Maleficent. I'm confident B&tB--whatever the critics may say--will blow it out of the water. More interest, better cast, etc.
So, yes, I know it was successful. So sorry I'm not falling down at the feet of St. Cinderella, but I stand by my point that its intake pales in comparison to the intake of the other 3. Unhinge.
tsom wrote:I mean people here were complaining about Lin Manuel Miranda's involvement in The Little Mermaid,
That is not the same thing at all. Having someone interfere with the music whose sound is nothing like TLM is not something trivial like the color of Belle's shoes or the way a character's hair is arranged.
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Lol I don't know why you're so bothered. I never asked or told you to fall to the feet of Cinderella. It's not that deep.
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I really hope they go all out for having sets in this one rather than an overdose of CGI. Really and truly over the constant use of it.
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Like tsom, at least I can feel good that Cinderella got way better reviews than Alice or Maleficent. I don't know if the reviews for it were better or a little less or around the same as The Jungle Book. The film was well made. I'll just have to see if Beauty and the Beast is, because unlike Disney, I don't care about the money - I care if the film is good.
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