I Would Like to Know... (Who Here is Gay?)

[PrincePhillipFan]

Also, we decided if I were pyrokinetic, my superhero name could be "Flamer", a not-so-subtle jab at my gayness.

That's quite an interesting story, Brenden.

As for the Kinsey scale, I often kept questioning myself where I would fit before I came out about it. But after looking more at the chart now, and how I feel, I would say I definitely fall into about a 5.

[Widdi]

According to my psychiatrist (well former psychiatrist... I'm not crazy... anymore! XD) I'm a 4.5 on the scale.

To change the subject to something else, I got some good news today. News that another Schulz loving UD member might mind interesting too; if he didn't already know.

My city, which I often joke to be the least gay city in Ontario, has a quarterly "Gay Dance" that will no longer be quarterly, it will now be monthly. Which means that there will finally be someplace for me to go to meet other gay guys. My broken gaydar is now obsolete. Maybe if this thing becomes a success, someone in this town will realize there is a market for a gay bar. I'd open one myself if I wasn't a 19 year old with no money and no idea how to run a business...

Happy times are a comin' here in the bay; happy times...

[Isidour]

Interesting...
So based on the "Kinsley 6" and without using any special powers we can resume that it's more probably being bisexual than heterosexual or gay?

[Prudence]

Interesting...
So based on the "Kinsley 6" and without using any special powers we can resume that it's more probably being bisexual than heterosexual or gay?

Most people are bisexual to some level, whether they realize and/or admit this or not.

[Isidour]

That's interesting
Even homophobic could be bisexuals?

[Prudence]

That's interesting
Even homophobic could be bisexuals?

It depends on the individual. I'm sure a number of homophobes feel at least a bit of sexual attraction to members of their respected gender. They'll simply never acknowledge it.

[Isidour]

Really interesting indeed
....mmm...Kinsey you said?

Wasn't about this guy who had a really good research about human sexual behavior?

[Disney Duster]

Thanks jeremy88. It's nice you both know about each other, very nice.

Prudence, why can't you prevent your sister from telling your mom? I thought she wasn't as willed as you, as capable of doing things on her own and making decisions like this? Have you told her the very likely consequences? Will you be able to provide room for your sister if she loses her home? By the way, congratulations on being such an impressively independent female in this world.

From that point on, I've just sort of associated myself with it. I always wanted a "physical" superpower as opposed to something like telekinesis..

So you actually get to have both because you make fire with your mind, right?

Thank you The Little Merman...though I do know looks play into love, that can't be all that makes you love someone so hopefully your feelings for someone goes beyond what you said about Leo.

Escapay, your groups of letters did not really fit into this situation. That would work more for hermaphrodites maybe. Look, it's just like the likeliness of falling in love with a hermaphrodite. Yea, it could happen, but you know what you like, you know what you prefer. You prefer women? Guess what, you're straight! If you haven't discovered for yourself if you like the same or opposite sex or not, possibilities don't mean much unless you're constantly fantasizing about them or you know you would like a certain sex if you only had them. Or how about you discover what you are how everyone does, by looking at men and women and seeing how you feel!

By the way pansexuality means you don't just get attracted to men or women, but also transgenders and intersex. Bisexuality means you like the far more usual male and female sexes. Pansexuality is not the possibility of liking a different sex!

But gender is different from sex anyway. Gender is the roles and behaviors attributed to the sexes. But people actually have sexes, and are attracted to the sexes. I have not met anyone attracted to male and female parts on the same body or something inbetween, but hey who knows right?

As for all this bisexual stuff, yeah blah yea. If you are really really attracted to the same sex and not the opposite sex, you are gay. If you have a relationship with the opposite sex, does that mean you are bisexual? No, not necessarily, especially if you aren't attracted to them sexually like you are to the same sex. I personally have felt attracted to girls I thought were very beautiful...like I'm attracted to Cinderella's dress. Yea they're beautiful and that kind of makes you want to touch them but it's totally different from how I'm attracted to boys.

I'M GAY AND PROUD OF IT!!!! FULLY gay? Only gay? Why do I need to determine that? Who knows? I'm GAY!!!! Who else will say that?

[Widdi]

I'm gay, but I'm not a 6.

Pansexuality is a sexual orientation branch that reflects people who do not view gender as something that sexually attracts them to someone else. In some cases pansexuals do date transgender and intersex people but so do heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual people. I myself have dated a FTM transexual in the past. Quite an interesting experience... but I doubt what made it interesting is a topic that would acceptable to discuss here...

[Prudence]

Prudence, why can't you prevent your sister from telling your mom? I thought she wasn't as willed as you, as capable of doing things on her own and making decisions like this? Have you told her the very likely consequences? Will you be able to provide room for your sister if she loses her home? By the way, congratulations on being such an impressively independent female in this world.

You're writing as though she actually listens to a word I say. She doesn't. Simple as that. Talking to her is like talking to a wall. Of course I have talked to her, and of course she has ignored my warnings. Unfortunately, I will not be able to provide a room for my sister, as I am moving from place to place this year and am still an undergraduate in university myself. (My sister will start her last year of high school in August, provided she does not drop out.)

There's a new twist to all this:
Her girlfriend is suicidal. A suicidal, chemically inbalanced fourteen-year-old. How lovely. Ugh. If something happens to Pat, this girl is going to become worse. She's a very dramatic person.

It's not my JOB to protect them. I want to help, but I can't let their carelessness control me. I have jobs and responsibilities of which I am proud of, and they do not include taking bullets for two irresponsible teenagers. (A bit of an odd thing to say, as I am also a teenager, but I don't feel like one and don't think I seem like one, especially since most people I am around are in their twenties.)

I'M GAY AND PROUD OF IT!!!! FULLY gay? Only gay? Why do I need to determine that? Who knows? I'm GAY!!!! Who else will say that?

Lots of people. Maybe not here, but many, many people of the world.

[The Little Merman]

Thank you The Little Merman...though I do know looks play into love, that can't be all that makes you love someone so hopefully your feelings for someone goes beyond what you said about Leo.

Ok darling, I'm not that superficial. It was just a simple sort of explanation of my feelings--using a celebrity.

[Disney Duster]

Thanks for the clarification and further information, Widdi.

Prudence, does your sister honestly think your mother will keep her in the house and let her be happy doing what she wants? What will you do if the consequences turn out badly? I know you are young yourself and have your own, busy life, but I don't care if it's not my place to say, I think you should try to figure out a way to help your sister, even if it's just recommending a job, telling her how to land one, or thinking of someone who may take her in. My sincere apologies if you have already thought you would do something like that.

The Little Merman...hehe, sorry, I said that just in case that wasn't the case.

HEY EVERYBODY, by the way, my psychologist said love scientifically requires part sexual (or maybe he said physical) attraction!

[David S.]

With the exception, of course, of asexuals who are not aromantic...
(many of whom form loving, romantic, but non-sexual relationships)

And there's also the concept of "platonic love" and the idea that people (whether sexuals or asexuals) can be in "true love" mentally and/or spiritually without the physical component.

What that doctor said is probably true in most cases, because for most people all those things (physical, romantic, intelectual, spiritual) go together to form their "ideal" of love.

But who can really, truly say that the love shared by those in the above mentioned examples is any less real or any less valid than the more common form which features a physical dimension?

I just feel that, as in anything in life, there is always a rich diversity of things that exist on the fringes of the mainstream, and defy easy classification and definition - other than the definition those involved choose to give it - that are however no less real or valid

PS - not arguing in ANY way with Disney Duster, just disagreeing with the psychologist

[Isidour]

Asexuals...Aromantic...

Haven't they ever lived?

[Disney's Divinity]

Asexuality actually isn't a horrible thing to me. I think people, perhaps moreso in the U.S. (I have no idea), focus far too much on sexual satisfaction as the "ultimate" in life. Many times I've considered just giving up on romantic relationships altogether and focusing on work and family (yes, I know abstaining and asexuality are two different things). I'd rather be happy alone than miserable "together." Besides, raising children is much better when you don't have to conflict with another person's ideas or face the risk of separation.

On the other side, I completely understand pansexuality, but I couldn't have sex with just anyone. I could love anyone, but the physical aspect won't always be present. I've rarely been attracted to women or the transgendered. I suppose it's just hard for me to overlook the appearance.

[Isidour]

A nice point of view DD(may I call you DD?) and very valid one I must say

Yet, at least for me...Asexuality?....

If sex have so many good sides(and not only depends of one's flexibility)

[David S.]

Isidour,

As I understand it, asexuals don't "choose" to become asexuals, or "choose" to give up their sexuality; they are asexual because that's just how they've always been. Like Disney's Divinity said, there is a huge difference between asexuality and abstinance/celibacy. The former is an orientation and the latter is a choice.

[Isidour]

I know David(nice name by the way) asexual isn't the same than abstinence

But sex doesn't just mean a sexual relation with a partner...or more(it depends of the person) so...I think that mostly of the asexuals are kids (considering how many young moms are now...)

[Widdi]

Congrats to UD members living in California who now are able to legally marry.

That's 2 states down, only 48 to go...

The definition of an asexual is someone who possess no sexual attraction to any gender. Children are not asexual, they are nonsexual which is not the same. Some children will grow to be asexual, but children are not asexual by nature.

[David S.]

Exactly.

And Hooray for California!