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I'm not sure about this. I'm sure Halle is a wonderful actress but I really like Ariels red hair, since that is an iconic part of her. What about the girls who identified as Ariel being a redhead? I'm surprised Disney didn't once consider a white redhead girl.

Also for Ursula, I think Kathleen Turner would have been better than Melissa McCarthy because of her voice. But we shall see as always how this will pan out.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:
DisneyFan97 wrote: I think you are ridiculous saying Ariel can't be black and Disney can't handle the story. Booth claims are untrue.
And as I said already, I don't care what you think about my opinion. Ariel obviously can be black considering Bailey was cast, wasn't she? But neither she or McCarthy are perfect casts, and I'm not going to pretend like they are to please you. The Broadway show was trash and I won't be surprised if this is the same, considering it's already on that track with mediocre choices for the two critical roles and likely Miranda for Sebastian. And I do not care if saying that offends you.
I 100% certain it won't be trash .Disney rarely makes trash. it has a good director attached and great screenwriter.

Also Colleen Atwood and John Myhre are attached behind the scenestoo and they true masters of their respective crafts !

it will at least be good if not great !

Trash implies somthing like Troll 2 ,The Room, Bloodfreak(see link below) or DOCTOR MORDRID.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132888/
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DisneyFan97 wrote: it has a good director attached and great screenwriter.
Well, I don't expect a flop by any means, but Mary Poppins Returns underperformed with Marshall and Miranda involved. They intended to jumpstart a MP franchise and that didn't happen.
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I give A LOT of credit for Howard Ashman, but the film wasn't just his doing. Musker and Clements are great filmmakers who made successful and great films besides The Little Mermaid. I don't have high hopes for the remake as well, mainly because I don't like Rob Marshall.
I love M&C, too. I remember they said they were not consulted at all during the making of the Broadway show (I believe they were a little insulted), and I doubt they will be here either. But, I guess we do have Miranda who believes he alone had to be involved in order to make sure this was done "right." :roll: What a terrific job so far.

I don't care for Marshall either. I haven't liked anything he's made, but I thought (going by MPR) that this might at least be more faithful out of respect to the original film. Guess not.
Sicoe Vlad wrote:I kinda like her, I think she's super gorgeous. And her singing voice is beautiful, too. She'll be a great Ariel
She is beautiful. And her rendition of POYW should be great, too, as long as they make sure she doesn't belt. Boggess was a great Ariel, but her belting on POYW was not to my taste. I understand it's different in a theater and you want everyone to be able to hear even at the back of the room, but it just didn't work for me.
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DisneyFan97 wrote: it has a good director attached and great screenwriter.
Well, I don't expect a flop by any means, but Mary Poppins Returns underperformed with Marshall and Miranda involved. They intended to jumpstart a MP franchise and that didn't happen.
No, they didn't. They were never going to find another good reason for her to come back again. And all those sequel rumours were started by the Sun, which is one of the worst british tabloids.

It's obvious 'Mary Poppins Returns' didn't make as much money as they hoped (it still was more profitable than 'Dumbo'), but it wasn't on them. They delivered a film which got good reviews (unlike the most recent remakes) and awards traction (Emily Blunt got a SAG nomination for her performance with a very late SAG screener, which is pretty rare).
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https://www.capitalxtra.com/news/halle- ... st-disney/

:lol: @ #NotMyAriel. It's definitely as bad as if they had cast a skinny Ursula.
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farerb wrote:I give A LOT of credit for Howard Ashman, but the film wasn't just his doing. Musker and Clements are great filmmakers who made successful and great films besides The Little Mermaid.
Howard was much more involved in the making of The Little Mermaid than one might imagine. I think you'll find interesting Musker's account of Howard's contributions.
farerb wrote:I don't have high hopes for the remake as well, mainly because I don't like Rob Marshall.
Me neither. While the visual component in his films is top notch, he lacks the necessary storytelling skills to make a good movie. This was most evident in Mary Poppins Returns where he was invloved with the writing and turned out to be his worst film yet (in my opinion).
Old Fish Tale wrote:No, they didn't. They were never going to find another good reason for her to come back again. And all those sequel rumours were started by the Sun, which is one of the worst british tabloids.
It was based on an interview he gave them. They didn't make it up. He compared Mary Poppins to Star Wars and James Bond. He clearly thought it would be a big hit and Disney would commission more sequels.
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I am very confident Halle will have her hair dyed or CGI-ed the familiar Ariel red. I certainly hope so, but I just feel sure they will do it. And yes, I also believe it will be straightened.
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#NotMyAriel is trending on Twitter with over 180K tweets! :shock: There have been casting controversies before with Disney remakes—people saying Emma Watson wasn't pretty enough to be Belle or because Naomi Scott was of Indian descent instead of Arabic—but never to this extent.

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Good! I hope it recurs every time a promo shot is released, and the teaser, and the first trailer, etc. Screw Disney, seriously.

Reading articles about the backlash, they bring up a quote from Marshall talking about how she was picked after an “extensive search.” What a liar. We know this wasn't an extensive search. Why didn't they just cast Miranda's niece or something and be done.
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Like more than half of the people using the hashtag are commenting on it, calling it racist. That’s what all the top tweets are about, too. It’s not a movement of disgruntled Ariel fans- well, I guess it kind of is, just not the kinds of fans who need Ariel to be white— and is kind of weird to suggest this without the proper context.
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Since I doubt you've read all 155,000 tweets yourself and divvied up those using the hashtag seriously from those mocking it, you're not exactly qualified to say either, are you?
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Since I doubt you've read all 155,000 tweets yourself and divvied up those using the hashtag seriously from those mocking it, you're not exactly qualified to say either, are you?
Ooooh, made you mad.
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No, you just lied. Congrats.
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.... have you even been on Twitter?
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I don't use Twitter, no. Googling the hashtag, of the first 6 posts, one talked about the hypocrisy of criticizing whitewashing while being all set for blackwashing. I'm sure there are many posts that are those criticizing the hashtag at the top right now once it got enough to be in the top trending and get noticed. There's always a reaction to the reaction. That's the Internet.

This forum is the same. First someone complains about something. Then the next person complains about the person complaining about something.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:It’s not a movement of disgruntled Ariel fans- well, I guess it kind of is, just not the kinds of fans who need Ariel to be white— and is kind of weird to suggest this without the proper context.
The hashtag first started trending because of disgruntled fans voicing their displeasure. It was after it was trending that people used the hashtag to criticize the people complaining. That inflated the numbers for sure but it doesn't negate the fact that there were enough tweets to make the hashtag trend by people who were upset by the casting.

Regardless of how many tweets in the hashtag now are for or against, the optics aren't good. It makes it appear that more people are upset than what might be the case.
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The hashtag suddenly disappeared. Literally one minute it was trending at no. 5 and the next it's not even among the top 20 trending topics. Disney totally asked Twitter to remove it. :lol:
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Disney as a company has become way too powerful, so that's not a surprising development. If people don't like what Disney serves up on a dish, then they just press the mute button. They've taken control of so much, that they don't have to care about the reaction of consumers anymore. They can just forcefeed whatever narrative they want to spin down our throats.
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Other companies are to blame for this too. Sure Disney may ask Twtter to remove a hashtag or Rotten Tomatoes to remove negative user reviews but they don't have to oblige. The fact that they do is very telling.
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Sotiris wrote:The hashtag suddenly disappeared. Literally one minute it was trending at no. 5 and the next it's not even among the top 20 trending topics. Disney totally asked Twitter to remove it. :lol:
It's still trending for me. From what I've seen, the hashtag has equal amounts of people hating the casting as there are people supporting it. Regardless of the stance people are taking, I agree with the fact that the hashtag itself is bad optics and doesn't bode well. There was a minor outcry about Naomi Scott but it wasn't really that big of a deal and same with Emma Watson's casting. So far the amount of contempt for this decision seems pretty unparalleled for Disney's standards, besides maybe when they fired James Gunn.
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