SpringHeelJack wrote:I eventually plan on responding to Dusty's post at some point, I just... can't seem to muster up the sheer willpower to do so now. Sometimes it just feels like arguing with a See 'n Say, and I know this is internet debate, which is held in the highest esteem in the land, but I still feel like any argument is as good as what I invest in it, so... eventually.
Plus a fair amount of what I'd say would just echo Goliath. I knew that if I waited long enough, someone would lend a hand.
I'm so tired of listening to DD that I even shortened my last reply to him in another thread.
Barbossa wrote:The coupon is only $5 this time? Disney's going cheap. I remember the days of the $10 off coupon. Only $5 off the 4-disc 3D set. Ouch. not so cheap.
They aren't going cheap. They know what they're doing. Even if they didn't offer any coupon, presales have already shown that Tangled is going to sell A LOT of copies. So they put out a measly $5 coupon to appease those of us that are used to them.
But coupon or no coupon, this release is going to be big.
SWillie! wrote:
But coupon or no coupon, this release is going to be big.
Yeah, I'm sure it'll easily outdo TP&TF, and that was one of the bestsellers the year it was released on Blu/DVD. They're making the most of it with the measly coupons.
The only thing I hate is that they have so many different releases. I'm getting confused about which I should buy.
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Yeaaaaaah, I am avoiding this like I avoid a bullet to my head.
Are you kidding? I keep coming here for the drama! Just like the thread title promises! If it doesn't deliver, I demand UD gives me back my wasted time.
Passionate about Disney Princesses (which he re-interpreted as “Chibis” the design of which seduced John Lasseter to the point of asking to have shirts – his famous illustrated shirts – made out of David’s re-interpreted characters!), he lived a dream-come-true in being able to follow to the closest the production of Tangled, as well as becoming an illustrator for some of the books derived from the movie.
AV: The final film is so different from what was first presented to the audiences, some time ago, with a squirrel instead of Pascal.
DG: First of all, Pascal was to be blue, then we got to green. They made tests so that he didn’t have too many colors since he’s so small and had to be clearly seen on Rapunzel’s shoulder, with the hair and the purple dress. Since he’s a cameleon, it allowed them to have him go through different colors all along the movie, but in a very balanced way. What’s nice about Tangled is that you don’t have the sempiternal sidekick spoiling the whole story. At the very beginning of the production, there wasn’t any sidedkick at all. But we were several to convince Byron to have one, anyway.
They searched different animals, a crow, an owl, a ferret… Ultimately, Pascal proved to become Byron’s Jiminy, all the more since one of his friends and colleagues owns a true chameleon named Pascal! That said, I liked the idea of the squirrel on Rapunzel Unbraided. The idea was to have to teenagers from our world that would transform one into Rapunzel, one into Bastion. Actually, in the sneek-peak presented at the beginning, the young girl was the teenager girl and the squirrel was the true Rapunzel transformed. And, as for Glen Keane’s original vision, it was much darker and much closer to the original tale, and visually inspired by Rembrandt.
Tests were done to see if his style and Fragonard’s would fit to animation, using a developed version of Deep Canvas, created on Tarzan, but it proved more complicated than expected. The result was pretty neat on fixed images, but less convincing in animation. Maybe in a few years, on another film… And most of all, Glen Keane suffered health issues and had to quit directing. He was glad about that, relieved. Also, the time is different. When you think “animation” now, you think Ice Age, not something dark. At the time, at the Studio, they pretty much compared Rapunzel to Hunchback of Notre Dame. I think that, ultimately, the Studio found the right tone.
Passionate about Disney Princesses (which he re-interpreted as “Chibis” the design of which seduced John Lasseter to the point of asking to have shirts – his famous illustrated shirts – made out of David’s re-interpreted characters!), he lived a dream-come-true in being able to follow to the closest the production of Tangled, as well as becoming an illustrator for some of the books derived from the movie.
AV: The final film is so different from what was first presented to the audiences, some time ago, with a squirrel instead of Pascal.
DG: First of all, Pascal was to be blue, then we got to green. They made tests so that he didn’t have too many colors since he’s so small and had to be clearly seen on Rapunzel’s shoulder, with the hair and the purple dress. Since he’s a cameleon, it allowed them to have him go through different colors all along the movie, but in a very balanced way. What’s nice about Tangled is that you don’t have the sempiternal sidekick spoiling the whole story. At the very beginning of the production, there wasn’t any sidedkick at all. But we were several to convince Byron to have one, anyway.
They searched different animals, a crow, an owl, a ferret… Ultimately, Pascal proved to become Byron’s Jiminy, all the more since one of his friends and colleagues owns a true chameleon named Pascal! That said, I liked the idea of the squirrel on Rapunzel Unbraided. The idea was to have to teenagers from our world that would transform one into Rapunzel, one into Bastion. Actually, in the sneek-peak presented at the beginning, the young girl was the teenager girl and the squirrel was the true Rapunzel transformed. And, as for Glen Keane’s original vision, it was much darker and much closer to the original tale, and visually inspired by Rembrandt.
Tests were done to see if his style and Fragonard’s would fit to animation, using a developed version of Deep Canvas, created on Tarzan, but it proved more complicated than expected. The result was pretty neat on fixed images, but less convincing in animation. Maybe in a few years, on another film… And most of all, Glen Keane suffered health issues and had to quit directing. He was glad about that, relieved. Also, the time is different. When you think “animation” now, you think Ice Age, not something dark. At the time, at the Studio, they pretty much compared Rapunzel to Hunchback of Notre Dame. I think that, ultimately, the Studio found the right tone.
Well, it's sad to see what could have been.
And also, I never think of "Ice Age" when I think of animation. Is that just me?
Per Box Office Mojo, Tangled is now the 19th highest grossing animated film of all-time in the United States (not adjusting for inflation) and has a total U.S. gross of $198,526,589. Tangled has also consistently been among the top 20 movies in the U.S. since it's release (with the exception of just one week).
It's a shame that the DVD/Blu-Ray release tomorrow will probably kill its chances of crossing the $200 million mark, but it's still one heck of an accomplishment.
4th Life of Thomasina wrote:Per Box Office Mojo, Tangled is now the 19th highest grossing animated film of all-time in the United States (not adjusting for inflation) and has a total U.S. gross of $198,526,589. Tangled has also consistently been among the top 20 movies in the U.S. since it's release (with the exception of just one week).
It's a shame that the DVD/Blu-Ray release tomorrow will probably kill its chances of crossing the $200 million mark, but it's still one heck of an accomplishment.
4th Life of Thomasina wrote:Per Box Office Mojo, Tangled is now the 19th highest grossing animated film of all-time in the United States (not adjusting for inflation) and has a total U.S. gross of $198,526,589. Tangled has also consistently been among the top 20 movies in the U.S. since it's release (with the exception of just one week).
It's a shame that the DVD/Blu-Ray release tomorrow will probably kill its chances of crossing the $200 million mark, but it's still one heck of an accomplishment.
The entire interview I did with Glen Keane is out today!! I would love for everyone to read it.
Once Upon A Time: Disney animator Glen Keane believes in the power of fairy tales—and the power of heaven. His latest creation, 'Tangled', releases to video today. http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/mov ... eupon.html
It was a fairy tale that just fascinated me, and in 1996 I started to develop it while I was working on Tarzan, which makes it by far the longest thing I've ever done. After a while, I realized that the only way this movie's going to happen is if I direct it, so I started to direct it. It went through a period where it was called Rapunzel Unbraided, a Shrek-like version of the film. It was really witty and clever, but I've always animated characters that have this burning desire inside of them, and [that version] didn't feel like me. There was something missing in the sincerity of the story. We then started from scratch and worked on it until 2008 when I had a [non-life threatening] heart attack and stepped back from directing.
I really wish we could see his much darker version of the tale.
There are also elements in the film that at first I was like, "No, we can't change that." But in the end, I find the changes refreshingly wonderful. For example, Flynn at one time had a dog. When Byron and Nathan came in, they changed it to a horse, and I was upset, thinking How could you lose the dog? But they didn't lose the dog, they just added a dog and horse together.
He said in another interview that the basset hound was based on his family's dog.
