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rj.disney wrote: I always love it when Zac unabashedly speaks of his love for Disney.
Lol, almost every interview with them about Tangled is the same, lately.
Zachary calls himself a Dis-nerd and Mandy whines about how they didn't get to record together xD
you can't blame them for having to answer the same lame questions every damn time. Ask the something interesting instead of "how was it to record together".

Many is pretty much being forced to explain during every interview that they didn't record together. Something an interviewer would have known had he/she been more prepared.
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Fairytales wrote: Lol, almost every interview with them about Tangled is the same, lately.
Zachary calls himself a Dis-nerd and Mandy whines about how they didn't get to record together xD
you can't blame them for having to answer the same lame questions every damn time. Ask the something interesting instead of "how was it to record together".

Many is pretty much being forced to explain during every interview that they didn't record together. Something an interviewer would have known had he/she been more prepared.
Oh, i don't blame them at all! i just noticed it
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That was a very cute interview!
Lol, and i loved when they talked about Flynn being the sexiest disney character xD
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Forty-one songs from the films of 2010 are in the running for Best Original Song Oscar nominations. Nine are from animated features:

• Despicable Me from Despicable Me
• Prettiest Girls from Despicable Me
• Sticks & Stones from How to Train Your Dragon
• Le Gris from Idiots and Angels
• Chanson Illusionist from The Illusionist
• To the Sky from Legend of the Guardians
• Darling I Do from Shrek Forever After
• I See the Light from Tangled
• We Belong Together from Toy Story 3

All of 41 eligible contenders:

“Alice” from “Alice in Wonderland”
“Forever One Love” from “Black Tulip”
“Freedom Song” from “Black Tulip”
“Bound to You” from “Burlesque”
“Welcome to Burlesque” from “Burlesque”
“You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me” from “Burlesque”
“There’s a Place for Us” from “The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader”
“Coming Home” from “Country Strong”
“Me and Tennessee” from “Country Strong”
“Despicable Me” from “Despicable Me”
“Prettiest Girls” from “Despicable Me”
“Dear Laughing Doubters” from “Dinner for Schmucks”
“Better Days” from “Eat Pray Love”
“If You Run” from “Going the Distance”
“Darkness before the Dawn” from “Holy Rollers”
“Sticks & Stones” from “How to Train Your Dragon”
“Le Gris” from “Idiots and Angels”
“Chanson Illusionist” from “The Illusionist”
“Never Say Never” from “The Karate Kid”
“To the Sky” from “Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole”
“What If” from “Letters to Juliet”
“Life During Wartime” from “Life During Wartime”
“Made in Dagenham” from “Made in Dagenham”
“Little One” from “Mother and Child”
“Be the One” from “The Next Three Days”
“If I Rise” from “127 Hours”
“When You See Forever” from “The Perfect Game”
“I Remain” from “Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time”
“Dream Big” from “Pure Country 2: The Gift”
“How I Love You” from “Ramona and Beezus”
“Darling I Do” from “Shrek Forever After”
“Noka Oi” from “Six Days in Paradise”
“This Is a Low” from “Tamara Drewe”
“I See the Light” from “Tangled”
“Rise” from “3 Billion and Counting”
“We Belong Together” from “Toy Story 3”
“Eclipse: All Yours” from “The Twilight Saga: Eclipse”
“Nothing” from “Tyler Perry’s Why Did I Get Married Too”
“A Better Life” from “Unbeaten”
“Shine” from “Waiting for ‘Superman’”
“The Reasons Why” from “Wretches & Jabberers”

Under Academy rules, a maximum of two songs may be nominated from any one film. If more than two songs from a film are in contention, the two songs with the most votes will be the nominees.

To be eligible, a song must consist of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the film. A clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition of both lyric and melody must be used in the body of the film or as the first music cue in the end credits.

The 83rd Academy Awards nominations will be announced live on Tuesday, January 25, 2011.
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After seeing it again, I feel less strongly about some of my earlier criticisms. It might’ve helped that the theater was empty this time. Last time, a family sat right behind me, and the children wouldn’t shut up during “I See The Light”--the worst scene to lose your focus during, because it sets up the ending. I like Flynn and Gothel somewhat better than before. Though Gothel’s still not one of my favorite villains, and I would’ve liked it more if they had actually had her feel love for Rapunzel, I did enjoy what they did do with her (I try my best not to dislike a film for what they could’ve done, but judge it for what they did do). I still don’t like how they give her some overly Broadway movements in the first “Mother Knows Best,” because they come across too silly. Loved the way they did the reprise though--that‘s probably my favorite scene in the movie (I especially like the part where they‘re back to back). Also liked the ending, where her whole body goes pale pale white. That she stabbed Flynn felt more believable after she is willing to allow the Stabbington brothers and Flynn just be hanged earlier. Part of the reason I didn’t feel as strongly about some of her knife moments is that the knife looked like a plastic toy--they should’ve made it sharper, with a gleam or something.

As a character, I still feel a bit of sympathy for Gothel, because she clearly was trying to escape death and wouldn’t have stolen Rapunzel if she could’ve just cut off the hair. Plus, it seems that she never allowed herself to get emotionally invested in Rapunzel, what with calling her “my flower” and all. That made it more easy to believe she would put her in chains at the end (and, yeah, I love the confrontation scenes between Gothel and Rapunzel at the end). Oh, and I agree with whoever it was (can’t remember) who said something about how the scene with child Rapunzel sneaking out after Gothel was in bed to look at the lights screamed child abuse--I felt that way the first time I saw it, too. I don’t know, besides the fact that she’s being kept in the tower (to the point that she doesn’t even know what grass feels like or what lanterns are), it just seemed horribly cruel for her to force the girl to keep her hair that long--her entire life was bent to meet Gothel’s needs. Overall, characters like Rapunzel, Snow White or Cinderella are extremely easy to sympathize with, which is probably why I came out of the movie liking her the first time, and still do.

About Flynn, I just felt more about the romance than before. I actually tried to focus on him throughout the film because I know I didn’t get much of him before. Of course, romance is rarely Disney’s strong point, but they did a decent job with it. I love the scene where he goes to meet the Stabbington brothers and Rapunzel is kind of worried he’s run off. I’m still left a little cold with Flynn, because the movie sets him up to be unlikable (particularly when he leaves the brothers to be arrested), and it’s hard to believe he would really fall for Rapunzel. Disney always does this opposites attract thing, but it was kind of iffy for me here. Plus, he comes across as too much of a repeat of Naveen, but then, the Prince and Prince Charming are practically the same, too. And I still felt weird about the death scene. Yeah, it’s more dramatic if he dies, and the flowing lights were awesome, but it seemed really stupid for him not to let her heal him first.

Oh, and to clarify on the pushing scene, which someone might have clarified already, Rapunzel was just forcefully holding Gothel’s hand after Gothel tried to pat her head with the usual lies, and then Gothel jerked away--clearly shocked that Rapunzel would ever be so defiant--and fell into the mirror. And I also saw the part where Rapunzel reached out as Gothel fell. In fact, Gothel’s whole death scene impressed me more than before.

The scene where Rapunzel “remembers” also worked better the second time around. It helped that I noticed they had showed a shot of the lost princess painted as a murial on a stone walking area which she must’ve seen during “Kingdom Dance” alongside the flashback. Also, someone complained about how similar Rapunzel and the Queen were, but I’m guessing they did that on purpose to explain why the Queen and King would believe Rapunzel was their daughter without proof--she looks just like her!

One last thing: I still feel the introduction is weak--the movie just seems to start without any lead-up--but the Flynn voice-over seems more appropriate at the end. I don’t know, the way Rapunzel interjected about how they eventually got married helped the relationship seem more real that way, considering I wasn’t accepting that he’d just drop the philandering based on what happened during the movie. I’m also still middle-of-the-road with the music, and I can’t say enough how much I wish Mandy Moore wasn’t the one singing, but it still works well within the film.

Overall, Tangled is one of those movies that I enjoy whenever I watch it, but it never really leaves an impact on me. But it is a pretty good movie. With TP&TF and Enchanted before it, things are looking up for Disney. Let’s hope they don’t blow it.

I hope these long write-ups don’t come across obnoxious. I don’t think my opinion means more than any other person on the internet, I just enjoy writing extensively about things. That can happen with an English major. :P
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Fairytales wrote:
rj.disney wrote: I always love it when Zac unabashedly speaks of his love for Disney.
Lol, almost every interview with them about Tangled is the same, lately.
Zachary calls himself a Dis-nerd and Mandy whines about how they didn't get to record together xD
LOL It DOES seem like EVERY SINGLE interview has Zac proclaiming he loves Disney and Mandy complaining about not working with the other actors and "singing in character" (I remember watching an interview where she pointed out that she never met Donna Murphy, the voice of Mother Gothel yet. But I did watch ANOTHER interview where she did get to work on I See the Light with Zac a little bit. (: )
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Sotiris wrote:Forty-one songs from the films of 2010 are in the running for Best Original Song Oscar nominations. Nine are from animated features:

• Despicable Me from Despicable Me
• Prettiest Girls from Despicable Me
• Sticks & Stones from How to Train Your Dragon
• Le Gris from Idiots and Angels
• Chanson Illusionist from The Illusionist
• To the Sky from Legend of the Guardians
• Darling I Do from Shrek Forever After
• I See the Light from Tangled
• We Belong Together from Toy Story 3

All of 41 eligible contenders:

“Alice” from “Alice in Wonderland”
“Forever One Love” from “Black Tulip”
“Freedom Song” from “Black Tulip”
“Bound to You” from “Burlesque”
“Welcome to Burlesque” from “Burlesque”
“You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me” from “Burlesque”
“There’s a Place for Us” from “The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader”
“Coming Home” from “Country Strong”
“Me and Tennessee” from “Country Strong”
“Despicable Me” from “Despicable Me”
“Prettiest Girls” from “Despicable Me”
“Dear Laughing Doubters” from “Dinner for Schmucks”
“Better Days” from “Eat Pray Love”
“If You Run” from “Going the Distance”
“Darkness before the Dawn” from “Holy Rollers”
“Sticks & Stones” from “How to Train Your Dragon”
“Le Gris” from “Idiots and Angels”
“Chanson Illusionist” from “The Illusionist”
“Never Say Never” from “The Karate Kid”
“To the Sky” from “Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole”
“What If” from “Letters to Juliet”
“Life During Wartime” from “Life During Wartime”
“Made in Dagenham” from “Made in Dagenham”
“Little One” from “Mother and Child”
“Be the One” from “The Next Three Days”
“If I Rise” from “127 Hours”
“When You See Forever” from “The Perfect Game”
“I Remain” from “Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time”
“Dream Big” from “Pure Country 2: The Gift”
“How I Love You” from “Ramona and Beezus”
“Darling I Do” from “Shrek Forever After”
“Noka Oi” from “Six Days in Paradise”
“This Is a Low” from “Tamara Drewe”
“I See the Light” from “Tangled”
“Rise” from “3 Billion and Counting”
“We Belong Together” from “Toy Story 3”
“Eclipse: All Yours” from “The Twilight Saga: Eclipse”
“Nothing” from “Tyler Perry’s Why Did I Get Married Too”
“A Better Life” from “Unbeaten”
“Shine” from “Waiting for ‘Superman’”
“The Reasons Why” from “Wretches & Jabberers”

Under Academy rules, a maximum of two songs may be nominated from any one film. If more than two songs from a film are in contention, the two songs with the most votes will be the nominees.

To be eligible, a song must consist of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the film. A clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition of both lyric and melody must be used in the body of the film or as the first music cue in the end credits.

The 83rd Academy Awards nominations will be announced live on Tuesday, January 25, 2011.





If it were for the animated features only i'm sure Tangled would win. The stupid thing is that Twilight Eclipse is nominated as well, and all those crazy Twihards will vote for Eclipse ofcourse xD

AND GOSH i just noticed that the Karate kid song "Never say never." is nominated. Well, we can forget it now. Justin Bieber sings in that song.
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Oh my god, really? Why THAT as the cover?Why not the Japanese poster? Tell me, disney, TELL ME!
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Fairytales wrote: If it were for the animated features only i'm sure Tangled would win. The stupid thing is that Twilight Eclipse is nominated as well, and all those crazy Twihards will vote for Eclipse ofcourse xD
I don't think many Academy members are Twihards. :wink:

Besides, no song has been nominated yet for the Oscars- they have only been submitted. Actual nominations won't come for a few months- but I'm sure "I See the Light" will get in.
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Fairytales wrote: If it were for the animated features only i'm sure Tangled would win. The stupid thing is that Twilight Eclipse is nominated as well, and all those crazy Twihards will vote for Eclipse ofcourse xD

AND GOSH i just noticed that the Karate kid song "Never say never." is nominated. Well, we can forget it now. Justin Bieber sings in that song.
That list is just of songs ELIGIBLE to be nominated. There will only be 5 nominations for the actual awards. Also, the academy awards is not voted on by teenagers, so Twilight and Justin Bieber do not have any kind of edge as far as Oscar voters go. In fact they usually turn their noses to stuff like that.
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DancingCrab wrote:
Fairytales wrote: If it were for the animated features only i'm sure Tangled would win. The stupid thing is that Twilight Eclipse is nominated as well, and all those crazy Twihards will vote for Eclipse ofcourse xD

AND GOSH i just noticed that the Karate kid song "Never say never." is nominated. Well, we can forget it now. Justin Bieber sings in that song.
That list is just of songs ELIGIBLE to be nominated. There will only be 5 nominations for the actual awards. Also, the academy awards is not voted on by teenagers, so Twilight and Justin Bieber do not have any kind of edge as far as Oscar voters go. In fact they usually turn their noses to stuff like that.
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Yeah, what they said. The Oscars aren't voted on by the public and the only people who nominate the songs are the music branch. And they don't usually go for the tween-type music. Remember they snubbed Miley Cyrus' song from Bolt, despite its Golden Globe nomination?

Though, I think "Barking at the Moon" should have been nominated over one of the Slumdog Millionaire songs.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: I hope these long write-ups don’t come across obnoxious. I don’t think my opinion means more than any other person on the internet, I just enjoy writing extensively about things. That can happen with an English major. :P
I enjoyed reading it and I agree with you on pretty much every point you made from Mandy to Gothel to the remembering scene.
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I have to say, I think it was smart for Disney to only push for one song from the film, as it will keep the voters who enjoyed Tangled from splitting the votes. It's the only award I think Tangled has a good shot at. If it wins it will be the first animated film to win Best Song since 2001's Monsters Inc.
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Thought this was interesting....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40685243/ns ... ?gt1=43001

I liked the title -
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Frying pans, who knew? :)
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