Official Enchanted Thread-Part 2

[Sotiris]

The 15th anniversary logo.


Source: https://www.disneystore.com.au/enchante ... 13458.html

[Farerb]

Kevin's Lima's commentary:
https://youtu.be/O2a8rt49sNA

[D82]

Kevin's Lima's commentary:
https://youtu.be/O2a8rt49sNA

I haven't watched it yet, but I'm glad it features photos, concept art and things like that, which will make it more interesting visually. Kevin Lima says in an interview he didn't include the film itself in the video not to have problems with Disney. It's a shame, as the commentary would be easier to follow that way, but his decision is understandable.

But since this is not an officially sanctioned video — "Nobody paid us to do this," he said — Lima avoided the ire of Disney's legal department by not uploading the entirety of "Enchanted" to play in a split-screen manner. Instead, it's largely a two-camera set-up buoyed by his photos, home videos, art, and recollections about the scripting, casting, songwriting, costumes, choreography, make-up, and more.

Source: https://www.slashfilm.com/1105308/encha ... interview/

Curiously, this is not the only special content he's making to celebrate the film's anniversary, as he'll also take part in a watch party organized by Disney this Thursday on Twitter.

[Vlad]

I'm just wondering how come Disney didn't reissue the movie on 4K? Even as a Movie Club exclusive.

[VanessaFan]

I'm just wondering how come Disney didn't reissue the movie on 4K? Even as a Movie Club exclusive.

I'd LOVE that! But it seems Disney or the home video department at Disney is no more. I still can't believe that they haven't released The Sword in the Stone on 4K Disc. I mean, they have the transfer on Disney+ and yay for that, but could we at least get it on dics as well? It seems like the home video department only focuses on new releases, sadly.

[D82]

Here's the Enchanted watch party Twitter thread where Kevin Lima shared some details about the Disney references in the movie: https://twitter.com/DisneyD23/status/15 ... 1891306496

I already knew about most of them, but I don't think I had noticed the way Giselle arrived in the real world was an Alice in Wonderland tribute or that Morgan acted as a fairy godmother to Giselle in the shopping sequence. It was also interesting to learn he added references to The Princess and the Frog and Tangled because he knew these movies were in development at Disney.

Now, I'll need to watch the commentary, which I haven't seen yet.

[DisneyFan09]

Well, after listening to the full commentary, I must say that liked it. Despite how I wanted Lima to talk more about the animated sequences, he still gave many interesting tidbits about the movie. I watched the video on YouTube without watching the movie simultaneously, for the sake of the pictures that were shown on the video. I never felt that I missed anything, for knowing the movie well enough. I wonder if he`ll ever going to make a commentary for A Goofy Movie

Do you have a link for that? I love Brother Bear, so I'm definitely interested.

Yup. Here it is! They talk about it from 1:44:33; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxR_uIXD5r8&t=4880s

[Marce82]

OH MY GOD!!

A commentary for Enchanted?!?!?! This is one step closer to my dream-enchanted-release!!
Between this, the target-exclusive making and the official dvd... all I need now is that cut song and I will be set! hahhaha

[Disney Duster]

Don't you mean you would want the original Blu-ray included? And there were two cut songs, one for Nancy that was the title song and the other a duet with her and Edward.

[Marce82]

Yes... I mean all the bonus stuff from the blu ray, plus the target dvd, plus this commentary... plus that darn deleted song!

The duet between Edward and Nancy WAS the song named "Enchanted". I listened to the commentary, and the only other deleted song was a villain song for Narissa called "No one stands in my way" or something like that. But that one wasn't filmed.

[Disney Duster]

Ohhhh ok. I'd like demos of every song written!

[blackcauldron85]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ste ... 34495.html

Enchanted was fun because we were making fun of Disney and making fun of ourselves. With “That’s How Your Know,” we were satirizing the idea of an Alan Menken song like “Under the Sea.” And then Kevin Lima, the director, had the idea that it would be set in Central Park and everyone there would be magically attracted to Giselle [played by Amy Adams], whether it was animals or people. She would gradually accumulate all these people around her and the song would start a cappella and then grow and grow into this enormous production number with people dancing and street bands playing. Meanwhile, the Patrick Dempsey character is very embarrassed about how public it’s all getting!

I think it would be really cool to see Enchanted on Broadway — there's been discussion of it from time to time. You’d have to figure out how to jump back and forth between animation and live actors, but the technology definitely exists now. I could see it happening someday, although I can’t tell you that there are immediate plans for doing that.

[PatchofBlue]

The term "satirizing" is so interesting to me when it comes to Enchanted. That specific term has kind of a negative connotation. It implies that the subject, in this case Enchanted, is somehow the butt of some joke, but that's not how I'd characterize the film, and that's a large part of why the film works. Like, you have Patrick Dempsey lampshading the improbability of falling in love with someone after one day, buuuuuut ... then he falls in love with Giselle after just one day once he opens his heart to the possibility of happiness.

I think the word Schwartz is looking for is "homage."

[The Disneynerd]

Wow i never thought of that before, but Enchanted as a Broadway Musical would be neat! Thanks for the sharing, blackcauldron85! Giselle could maybe talk to the audience ala Dora and Robert be like "who are you talking to girl" lol (they could make all the animated characters as they become real interact with the audience). They could have this huge cinema screen and they could keep 80% of the gorgeous original Animation and could reanimate the scene of the wishing well, were instead of the camera showing her fall upside down, Animated Giselle could fall directly torwards the audience and she would then literally break the forth wall and Pop out of the screen lol. (Same with Edward and Nancy at the end but the other way around). Maybe then she could interact with the audience real quick and then many New yorkers pass around her on stage and she asks them for help and the normal storyline goes on.

And later when she starts singing "Thats how u know" to specific people in the crowd , they can have like 5 actors disguised as regular people from the audience and they stand up with spotlights on them and sing along and they approach to the song and walk on stage in a big over the top Choreography with 20 more people from stage, as this would reinforce this idea of Giselle magically attracting normal people (audiences) to join the Musical number.
I would love to see Enchanted on Broadway more than anything else out of Disney! This could be a HUGE hit. (Although i dont know how real pip could be pulled off, maybe a hand puppet? ) Enchanted is easily one of my top 10 fav Disney movies ever! (Also I think the concept of the Barbie movie is almost identical to Enchanted, although both have different important messages)

Yes PatchofBlue, Enchanted as a whole isnt a satire, but Andalasia alone pretty much pokes fun at Disney (tropes) and shows how unrealistic they are, but at the same time embraces that at heart with Robert falling for that and living ever after, a sceptical dude who gets "enchanted" to disney magic, as as you said, that even unrealistic expectations like falling in love after one day and more can still occure in real life when you are open to Ever After. (I think Enchanted was still promoted as a Disney satire as this was what was trendy the last years, with Shrek for example). But this and the disney tropes and references worked so well here, unlike in Wish (i justified my opinion in my upcoming Wish review).

[Vlad]

I think the word Schwartz is looking for is "homage."

I agree. The term "satire" has such a negative connotation. I saw Enchanted as a tribute to all the great Disney classics. A tribute done in a respectful manner.

[Sotiris]

The duet between Marsden and Menzel called "Enchanted" has finally been leaked! Both the whole song as a demo as well as the part of the song that was filmed!

I'm not going to post them here in case Disney is watching, but if you want them, just let me know and I'll send you the link in a private message.

[Marce82]

Thank you, Sotiris! I will be reaching out to you...

I had a chance to ask Kevin Lima (the director) a question like a year ago, and I asked them what was meant to happen during the deleted song "Enchanted". Here is what he said:

"Yeah, we did shoot the entire song! They sing to each other, then we launched into a voice-over song, "Enchanted" that was meant play over the wrap up scenes. Unfortunately, Idina never recorded "Enchanted" and we ended up rewriting the end song which is what you hear in the film, "Ever Ever After." I do though have a demo of Alan Menken singing "Enchanted." Unfortunately, I can't release an unfinished song that's not in the film."

So it seems they characters started the song, and then it veered into a voice-over song with all the final footage we do get in the film. Interesting!

[Sotiris]

I've sent you a PM, Marce! What Kevin said to you is similar to what he shared on Twitter about it.

We had every intention of letting Idina sing in Enchanted! The audiences told us during previews that couldn’t place a ballad that late in the film between “It's a perfect fit.” And the montage/song that wraps up the film.

Source: https://x.com/GoofyMovieDir/status/1594737488924266496

After Prince Edward slipped the glass slipper onto Nancy’s foot, she sang in response and into the finale song. But her song was cut after a test screening. It stalled out the pacing, the audience was ready for the story to wrap up and we were spending time with secondary characters.

Source: https://x.com/GoofyMovieDir/status/1663384552818233345

In the first cut of Enchanted, Idina Menzel had a song that led into the final song which at that time was called Enchanted. It was a lovely moment for Edward and Nancy, but unfortunately the film was barreling to its finish and was cut.

Source: https://x.com/GoofyMovieDir/status/1266763865750007808

After Edward slipped the shoe on Nancy, he attempted to sing but had trouble finding the words. Nancy took over and sang a finale song that started in the moment, then moved into voice over as the events that ended the movie played out. There’s an Alan Menken demo and a track recorded by Idina and Jimmy, at least as much as they sang on camera.

Source: https://x.com/GoofyMovieDir/status/1459643402748772355

The original concept was once Nancy embraced Prince Edward's "proposal" she's transformed and can, in an opposite arc from Giselle, "sing." It was cut because the film was racing to its finale and we were taking a detour with secondary characters.

Source: https://x.com/GoofyMovieDir/status/1805734142208000033

[Mooky]

It's all available on YouTube, just use proper search filters.

I can see why it was cut, it definitely breaks the flow of the ending. It also feels like it comes from a different movie. I prefer "Ever Ever After", both as a song and as the ending scene.

[Farerb]

As John Musker said on the Aladdin commentary, imitating Jeffrey Katzenberg: "Guys, your movie's over. Your movie's over. People were getting up. They were putting their coats on."

I like the song though.