Wonderlicious wrote:Nit-picking aside, excellent find! It really looks pretty. In some ways, it seems like a mix of Cinderella's village and castle, Snow White's castle, Sleeping Beauty's castle and It's a Small World. Oh wait, that's because they all have the same influence. Joking aside, it really is really sweet and hopefully we will have an equally pretty movie here!
Really, It's a Small World had some of that castle? All those Disney films have German versions of the fairy tales that influenced the films, so it's good to have a real German castle as influence, though it is rumoured another castle in France, Chateau d'Usse, is what Perrault thought of when he made his French version of Sleeping Beauty, so I hope that influenced that film's castle a bit more.
Disney's Divinity, it totally has the look of Cinderella's village and castle gate.
Hey did any of you read this?:
Q: Nathan, how much can you speak about Rapunzel without putting our lives at risk?
Nathan Greno: I couldn't be happier with the direction Rapunzel is headed. It's a very smart, funny comedy. Stay tuned!
Gack! Comedy? And when you pair smart with funny, it sounds like ethy're trying for some "sharp wittiness" on a fairy tale like Enchanted, or Shrek or...Rapunzel Unbraided?!?!?! Aaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!
BUT DON'T PANIC YET! Calmly wait until we hear or see more, or actually see the whole movie...
Disney Duster wrote:Really, It's a Small World had some of that castle? All those Disney films have German versions of the fairy tales that influenced the films, so it's good to have a real German castle as influence, though it is rumoured another castle in France, Chateau d'Usse, is what Perrault thought of when he made his French version of Sleeping Beauty, so I hope that influenced that film's castle a bit more.
lol...it's not that "It's a Small World" has a castle so to speak...it's all those central European onion domes that reminds me of it. To be honest, what I was also implying was that Neuschwanstein influenced every fairy-tale castle in pop-culture.
ajmrowland wrote:I'm betting the first teaser we get will be withe PatF, as they are relatively similar in genre and from the same studio.
Since Disney is releasing 2 movies per year, one from Disney other from Pixar (except for upcoming Cars 2 and The Bear and The Bow, both up for release in 2011), I think we'll be only getting a trailer for Rapunzel when Toy Story 3 gets to theathers.
Remember everyone was looking for Up trailer with Wall-E, instead it was Bolt trailer that showed before the movie. And Up came with Bolt.
Seems that every movie shows the trailer for the next one.
Remember also that PatF got a teaser earlier and the trailer may arrive when Up hit theaters, so we might get Rapunzel teaser anytime this year or only early 2010, don't know...
There was an UP teaser on the web well before Bolt; It wasn't really anything, though. Can't remember it being before Wall-E, but it is on the DVD.
I agree that trailers have very subjective releases. I remember everyone was expecting a Harry Potter teaser with every major summer film of last year, and it ends up with the less-than-successful Mummy and Clone Wars.
Today was the hat building on my TAG 401(k) meeting tour. Afterwards, I came across a Rapunzelite who told me:
"We've got to finish the picture by the end of next year. That means we're going to have a really full-tilt schedule to get everything done ... it's going to be a lot like Bolt, lots of seven day weeks" ...
I responded that I didn't know of many pictures that didn't have tight schedules, that back in the Jeffrey K. days, when I was wandering around the Flower Street facility, animation artists regularly complained about the six and seven-day weeks to get out Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, Alladin and other features. There's just always a concrete release date you're forced to hit, no matter how many story and production kinks there are.
The artist allowed that yeah, tight schedules had been going on for awhile.
they need to stop bitching. Aladdin was completely animated in what... 9 months? I think it's good someone finally put their foot down and just gave thee people a deadline. They've been working on it for 8 years. It's high time they "just finish the damn film" (cause that's what Walt said to the Sleeping Beauty crew)
Unsurprising. There was no way WDAS could afford to postpone the release date once again even if the film was started from scratch a couple of months ago.
December 2010 they said it would be a year ago, and December 2010 it's gonna be (in the US at least ... Europe will likely get it in 2011).
I hope someone scans it and posts it. Only millionaires can a afford D23 outside the US. Absolutely rediculous shipping costs.
Rapunzel's design looks different from what we've seen so far in my opinion. They did keep the Glen Keane eyes though. She has something Ariel-ish. I hope that design is close to what they make it look like in the final film. Her hair looks better than the regular CG hair.
So far so good. I hope I can read the article soon.
PatrickvD wrote: I hope someone scans it and posts it. Only millionaires can a afford D23 outside the US. Absolutely rediculous shipping costs.
I usually don't do this, but it's been bugging me lately since I've seen it on other posts of yours. It's probably a typo but you tend to misspell ridiculous as rediculous. Just wanted to point it out to you, hopefully you won't misunderstand my intentions.
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sotiris2006 wrote:I usually don't do this, but it's been bugging me lately since I've seen it on other posts of yours. It's probably a typo but you tend to misspell ridiculous as rediculous. Just wanted to point it out to you, hopefully you won't misunderstand my intentions.
oh, thanks for pointing it out. English is not my first language, so it's not perfect. I'll spell it correctly from now. I'm sure there'll be enough ridiculous things in the future to comment on.
sotiris2006 wrote:You get that impression probably because that was a concept art and not a production still and her design registers differently on paper, as a sketch.
We haven't seen any production stills at all right? I was comparing this new one to image from 3 years ago. Both images are concept art, right? I was assuming from this new image they're attempting to make the hair looks less computer generated, since that was exactly what the directors recently mentioned in an interview. Maybe they've accomplished that? Neither of the images look 100% handdrawn anyway.
I see what you mean now. I hope a clearer high resolution scan makes its way online, so we can see more details.
They've been going on and on about how they want to make the CGI look less CGI-ish and more handpainted/drawn. Within the possibilities of today's technology, especially the stuff available at Disney and Pixar, I think that sketch could come close to a final CGI design. Especially when (assuming this is indeed a handdrawn character concept) you look at how they managed to make her face look CGI. It would be great if they actually succeeded in creating something through computer animation that feels handmade.
All in all, I really like this design. I'd be extremely happy if she ends up looking sort of like that. And I agree the previous one wasn't all that great.
I just picked up a copy of D23 at Epcot the other day, and there's a lot of new information on the film. Here's some new information I found out in the article:
*Spoilers Below*
"The film promises to have more dimension than the original tale - and a lot more fun. This Rapunzel, in fact, is out of the tower and heading for adventure by the end of Act One. "The story is more about what happens when she leaves the tower," Byron Howard says. "The moral of the story really, is that you can't live your life in a tower. It's about experienceing the world and living your life. Even though our heroine is physically out of the tower, mentally it's difficult for her to leave the tower. She's like an indoor cat that gets out of the house; it's really hard getting the cat back in. It's great to have a character who is co innocent and so smart. And it's even better to see her wake up."
Since the film is still in the midst of production, they're not exactly revealing all the details. But there are some things they let twenty-three in on.
The directors are styling the CG film with a fresh twist on a 1950s retro vibe. "Byron and I are such huge fans of Disneyland, and of Fantasyland in particular," Nathan Greno says. "The architecture of Fantasyland is nostaglic '50s Disney. There's a real appeal and style that are used in films like Cinderella, so we've been doing research on that style. John Lasseter is a stickler for that stuff. He will really take you to task if he doesn't think you've done your homework. We have to show our research for everything from houses to vehicles, horses, characters, everything."
They're also taking lessons from past projects to "plus" this production. "One thing we learned on Bolt is that there's a line that you can cross with CG where the characters can start looking creepy, too real, and it takes you out of the fantasy," Nathan says. "You have to be careful that it doesn't look too live-action or too cartoony. It's all about finding a balance."
Byron continues, "It's strange that in a move, they use a real soft focus because you want to get rid of the lines or blemishes on an actress' face, for instance. And there's this tendency in CG to show all of those imperfections, because they think that by adding them, the characters will look more real. But why would you do that? There's a really sweet place where these characters can live." And for Rapunzel, that sweet spot is in a wold nfluenced by the 1950s.
And what would a Disney fairy tale be wtihout a memorable score? "We knew when we first came on that this was going to be a musical," Byron reveals. For that they enlisted the help of Disney composer Alan Menken and lyricist Glenn Slater. "Alan is great," Nathan says. " He delivered this lullaby that Rapunzel and Mother Gothel sing to each other that activates the magic in Rapunzel's hair. The song's lyrics say, 'You are my forever,' which - depending on who sings it and when - takes on entirely different meanings. Sometimes it's a love song between our prince, Flynn, and Rapunzel; other times it's a terrifying, possessive theme used by Gothel. But it's great, because it's a very heartrending, beautiful song, and he really nailed it."
From now until the film's holiday 2010 release, the two young directors are eating, breathing, and living in the magical world created for this developing fairy tale. During the week of our interview, they were working on nailing down the look of Flynn. "We had a couple of versions of him, and John Lasseter came in and went, "Well this guy is okay, but I don't know. Is he drop-dead gorgeous? I think women will want him to be drop-dead gorgeous." So he said, "What you guys have to do is get all the women in the Studio to send you the names of their favorite hot men. Put photos of all these hunky guys in the room, take the best features from each of them, and make one amazing, dynamic character." So that's the process that's going on right now. This place has turned into junior high. It's like working in the offices of Tiger Beat!"
Not a bad task for something that might, if done well, endure the test of time. "The thing about these movies is they will live on forever," Nathan says. "That's one thing that Lasseter really instills in us."
He also encourages them to drema big. "Our not-so-secret dream is that one day we will go to Disneyland - into Fantasyland - and see this tower," Byron says. "Oh yeah," Nathan agrees, his gaze suddenly skyward, with a wry smile. "The same goes for the music," Byron says. "We want people to walk into the park, and when the music comes on, they'll say, "That's from Rapunzel!" We talk to John Lasseter about our theme park dreams, and he smiles and says, "Let's just focus on the movie, guys," Nathan laughs. "So we are."
I'm personally very excited now after hearing all these new points of information. I love they're using Fantasyland classic 50s Disney as their inspiration, and the lullaby "You are my forever" sounds like a very beautiful and haunting idea. The only thing that bothers me is the name changing from Bastion to Flynn. Bastion was a beautiful German name, and seemed more to keep in theme with the Germanic fairytale origins. Flynn now sounds like he comes from America to me.
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Tim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhh, I'm so excited!!!! But, you may want to put a spoiler warning on that, FYI.
Potential spoilers below, highlight to read:
She has magical powers in her hair?!? That's so weird, but it's cool!!!!!!!!!!! And another hot Disney prince- woo hoo!
Great read. I'm just concerned regarding the visuals of the movie. I'm starting to doubt they're going to implement Glen Keane's initial ideas about the "best of both worlds" and the painterly style inspired by Fragonard's The Swing.
If they have indeed scrapped all that then I'll be heart broken.
Joking aside, it really is really sweet and hopefully we will have an equally pretty movie here!
