Thanks for the link of these pics from both the 2003 and the new DVD/Blu-Ray release. I actually had the 1993 VHS release of that film, but the picture was okay, but it needs adjustments.
I guess the new Platinum Edition release has 10 times better than the VHS version. The newest Platinum Edition has better picture quality, nice and crystal clear, just like the way it did since I first saw it in a theater back in 1978.
I only got 4 more days until "Pinocchio" gets released and I can't wait to get it! If there is hope, I'm going to get it!
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Rudy Matt, I have edited out the inappropriate language from your post. I would also like to remind you that personal attacks are not allowed. Telling another member to shut up is inappropriate, there are other ways to let that member know you disagree with their viewpoint. Please re-read the rules and guidelines thread located at the top of the forum.
Can we all just quit with the incessant bickering for a few moments and discuss Luke's excellent pseudo-review? You'll have to read it to find why out why it's not a straight review, but he weighs his own thoughts on Blu-ray that actually makes for a nice change. Even I, a BD supporter, agree with many of his comments. Plus, his review of the movie itself is one of the most detailed he's ever done.
You may all go back to overusing the terms, "source of light" and "VHS," now.
You may all go back to overusing the terms, "source of light" and "VHS," now.
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Like what's been mentioned with Best Buy, some stores carry select titles a week early.Goliath wrote:It's not yet released in the US? That's strange. I picked it up last wednesday.musicradio77 wrote:I only got 4 more days until "Pinocchio" gets released and I can't wait to get it! If there is hope, I'm going to get it!
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Not legally. Some movie studios have even threatened store chains with lawsuits due to repeated early releases of their films.
The movies that typically get accidentally released early in some stores are those that have had release date changes. However, a lot of this has to do with the individual store's shipping or inventory system. Take Best Buy, for example. Most of their merchandise first goes to a warehouse where the items are rationed between the stores in the area. If copies of Pinocchio were put in the same box as movies that were released last Tuesday, unaware Best Buy associates might have thought that this film was also meant to be released that day, and thus stocked the shelves.
The movies that typically get accidentally released early in some stores are those that have had release date changes. However, a lot of this has to do with the individual store's shipping or inventory system. Take Best Buy, for example. Most of their merchandise first goes to a warehouse where the items are rationed between the stores in the area. If copies of Pinocchio were put in the same box as movies that were released last Tuesday, unaware Best Buy associates might have thought that this film was also meant to be released that day, and thus stocked the shelves.
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I agree it was a excellent "review". A lot of great points were brought up about Blu-ray. I don't agree with all of it, but for the majority I do. I'm not anti-Blu-ray and do plan to purchase a player this year. However I do feel this format has been pushed on the consumer hard compared to DVD. I also believe that Blu-ray replacing DVD is a long way out if it ever does. I can easily see DVD and Blu-ray existing together until the next format comes along.Disneykid wrote:Can we all just quit with the incessant bickering for a few moments and discuss Luke's excellent pseudo-review? You'll have to read it to find why out why it's not a straight review, but he weighs his own thoughts on Blu-ray that actually makes for a nice change. Even I, a BD supporter, agree with many of his comments. Plus, his review of the movie itself is one of the most detailed he's ever done.
You may all go back to overusing the terms, "source of light" and "VHS," now.
Anyway I can't wait to pick this up next week. Probably going to pick it up at Wal-Mart to get the plush. Are there any other exclusives for the DVD? I know Best Buy has a cup... I think.
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Re: Pinocchio Comparison Shots (Marky get in here)
I only came here to tell you just how silly you are. The well respected folks over at AVSForum.com are laughing at you...Marky_198 wrote:
I don't want to replicate that look, I want an image to work, and I want it to make a difference on Pinocchio's face if a flame burns in front of him!
I'm not going to mess with my settings to make an image work!
And let them laugh, and be happy with their sterile image with no source of light, no effect of the flame, a flat/dead image.
The fact that audio/videophiles have no respect for the classics is something I learned a while ago, but the fact they have so little knowledge of what actually works in a film and what doesn't is new for me.
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Luke, your review of the film was good. Your thoughts on blu-ray, I only support about 20%
Where is the 8-10% studies of the market? I want proof that the 17% is just a fluke.
Tvs dont have to be massive to enjoy blu-ray. A 45" tv, while pretty big for most people, is usually the minimal size to notice the difference between a DVD and a Blu-ray disc. While DVDs look great at best, their BD counterparts can still beat them out, if only by inches. BD games are getting more complex, and BD-Live-while I agree it's pathetic with Disney's network- is actually pretty cool considering some studios use it well enough*cough* warner *cough* Dark Knight *Cough*
I do agree that most movies are new-releases/action titles, but the industry's growing.
Digital Downloads WILL fail if they continue to be offered without a standard format or standard service requirements.
Your whole argument about DVD menus being too much effort to navigate tells me you're the kind of person who'll leave the grocery cart in the middle of the parking lot when the cart-storage thing is only a few strides away. That's not efficiency. It's laziness. I actually PREFER the more complex menus of yesteryear because they drew me into the world of the film in question.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but load times on BD players may differ between models. While they are imperfect, newer player will probably have much shorter load times than older ones.
The advertising is harsher than necessary and that consumers will be pushed further away. Consumer education, however is important. The studios are just going about it the wrong way.
I accept DVD as the dominant format and still buy DVDs. Only when the economy crisis is over, I think, will there be any certainty as to the survival(or demise) of Blu-ray disc.
(Off Topic: anyone know where I can find the Geppetto DVD for very cheap? It's been taken off the movie rewards selection.)
Where is the 8-10% studies of the market? I want proof that the 17% is just a fluke.
Tvs dont have to be massive to enjoy blu-ray. A 45" tv, while pretty big for most people, is usually the minimal size to notice the difference between a DVD and a Blu-ray disc. While DVDs look great at best, their BD counterparts can still beat them out, if only by inches. BD games are getting more complex, and BD-Live-while I agree it's pathetic with Disney's network- is actually pretty cool considering some studios use it well enough*cough* warner *cough* Dark Knight *Cough*
I do agree that most movies are new-releases/action titles, but the industry's growing.
Digital Downloads WILL fail if they continue to be offered without a standard format or standard service requirements.
Your whole argument about DVD menus being too much effort to navigate tells me you're the kind of person who'll leave the grocery cart in the middle of the parking lot when the cart-storage thing is only a few strides away. That's not efficiency. It's laziness. I actually PREFER the more complex menus of yesteryear because they drew me into the world of the film in question.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but load times on BD players may differ between models. While they are imperfect, newer player will probably have much shorter load times than older ones.
The advertising is harsher than necessary and that consumers will be pushed further away. Consumer education, however is important. The studios are just going about it the wrong way.
I accept DVD as the dominant format and still buy DVDs. Only when the economy crisis is over, I think, will there be any certainty as to the survival(or demise) of Blu-ray disc.
(Off Topic: anyone know where I can find the Geppetto DVD for very cheap? It's been taken off the movie rewards selection.)
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Re: Pinocchio Comparison Shots (Marky get in here)
Really? Link please.wallymatters wrote:Marky_198 wrote:
I don't want to replicate that look, I want an image to work, and I want it to make a difference on Pinocchio's face if a flame burns in front of him!
I'm not going to mess with my settings to make an image work!
And let them laugh, and be happy with their sterile image with no source of light, no effect of the flame, a flat/dead image.
The fact that audio/videophiles have no respect for the classics is something I learned a while ago, but the fact they have so little knowledge of what actually works in a film and what doesn't is new for me.
I only came here to tell you just how silly you are. The well respected folks over at AVSForum.com are laughing at you...
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Alright Luke
I've read your review, and as always enjoyed it
this time it was like me watching Fox News, i enjoy listening to people who has a different opinion then me, it makes me think harder.
So reading, in full, you rag about you only getting the BD set, and how you are just fine with DVD, im sorry to say, sounds like a grumpy old man saying he's just fine with his vinyl album back when the CDs came out.
So heres my take on it
1. i , as millions others, took a stand against upgrading to the next faze of digital home movies as long as they were two formats competing.
I was one of the few first back in 1999 (before it was cool) who had a blog, that had the "only one Hi-Def format" banners on it.
2. Now that we have a winner, and Blu-ray is the one - it is only a matter of time when most people will join in the fun - i got one late last year a PS3 with an HDTV - i also waited on an HDTV until we had enough HD TV channels and at least a 50,000:1 HD TVs.
3. I don't understand why you are complaining about the studios and Disney pushing BD upon the market -
a. they spend a lot of money to turn a movie to the 1080p glory - they need to make that back
b. Unlike the switch from VHS to DVD, which was clear to everyone, the upgrade from DVD to BD is harder for regular people to fully understand, and you have to have an HDTV, HDMI cable to really enjoy it - that was NOT the case with the switch to DVDs - heck all you had to do is plug it in to any old tv and you were set.
so im not sure why you are so annoyed by it.
c. you can not understand the BD life until you get one in your own home - i don't care if you've seen it somewhere or read about - no - once you have a true HDTV with the right BD player connected to your tv, then and only then you will understand
and if you don't - i'll just say it, even though ive never met you - you are just too old to 'GET IT' - sorry, i love you, but thats what i think.
4. As a reviewer you MUST upgrade to BD - cuz like it or not thats where we are all headed, you sound like Blockbuster back in the late 90s, staying away from DVDs - we all know how that story ended, don't we.
5. If you dont like a big tv, well thats your choice, but you must understand others, me included, live for it - bigger, better, louder, clearer, thats the future - we will always want to get better things.
6. since i was a little kid, ive always started watching Pinocchio and always fell asleep to it, not sure why just did - for the first time in my whole life, i've watched it in full, fully awake - thanks to the amazing picture and sound delivered via BD.
7. For people who say the reworked version doesnt look like it should - tell me this, did you ever think we havent seen the true colors of the film until now?
unless you held the original paintings of Pinocchio - you can not be sure how it really looked, maybe back then the way they originally filmed it 'killed' the true look of the film, and only now we are seeing it, on BD, they way it was intended to be seen - i truly believe that.
8. One more thing about the price, and whats available now
The same thing was back when dvds came out, the first Disney dvd was 'Beauty and the Beast The Enhcanted Christmas' - i paid $40 for that back in 1998, and you can only find action packed movies on BD these days, though not fully true, cuz the people who first run to buy the latest tech stuff like dvd (when it cam eout) or now BD are men, whomen and more slow mover people follow later (i guess you are among that group) so thats why - thats just business, there are some other BDs out there like "accross the univers" and so for, if thoes kind of BDs will sell well, im sure youll see more of them out there - its gonna happen.
I am no longer buying regular dvds btw.
One Q - and be honest, when did you buy your first DVD player?
(just interested)
Bottom line
I was one of the first who got the DVDs, while all of my friends were attached to their laserdiscs (i never got one - never liked that big old thoing) and i held on upgrading to BD (cuz i knew id need a good tv and PS3 with a great HDMI cable to go along with it to truly enjoy it)
now that im there - I ONLY SEE BLUE
COME INTO THE LIGHT LUKE
DVDs may be here for a while
but you can still buy instant coffee - it doesnt mean you should
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After all
i love your writing, either if i agree with it or not
so keep up the amazing work youre doing
and maybe its time to find another name for your great site to add to the U. Disney and DVDizzy....
I've read your review, and as always enjoyed it
this time it was like me watching Fox News, i enjoy listening to people who has a different opinion then me, it makes me think harder.
So reading, in full, you rag about you only getting the BD set, and how you are just fine with DVD, im sorry to say, sounds like a grumpy old man saying he's just fine with his vinyl album back when the CDs came out.
So heres my take on it
1. i , as millions others, took a stand against upgrading to the next faze of digital home movies as long as they were two formats competing.
I was one of the few first back in 1999 (before it was cool) who had a blog, that had the "only one Hi-Def format" banners on it.
2. Now that we have a winner, and Blu-ray is the one - it is only a matter of time when most people will join in the fun - i got one late last year a PS3 with an HDTV - i also waited on an HDTV until we had enough HD TV channels and at least a 50,000:1 HD TVs.
3. I don't understand why you are complaining about the studios and Disney pushing BD upon the market -
a. they spend a lot of money to turn a movie to the 1080p glory - they need to make that back
b. Unlike the switch from VHS to DVD, which was clear to everyone, the upgrade from DVD to BD is harder for regular people to fully understand, and you have to have an HDTV, HDMI cable to really enjoy it - that was NOT the case with the switch to DVDs - heck all you had to do is plug it in to any old tv and you were set.
so im not sure why you are so annoyed by it.
c. you can not understand the BD life until you get one in your own home - i don't care if you've seen it somewhere or read about - no - once you have a true HDTV with the right BD player connected to your tv, then and only then you will understand
and if you don't - i'll just say it, even though ive never met you - you are just too old to 'GET IT' - sorry, i love you, but thats what i think.
4. As a reviewer you MUST upgrade to BD - cuz like it or not thats where we are all headed, you sound like Blockbuster back in the late 90s, staying away from DVDs - we all know how that story ended, don't we.
5. If you dont like a big tv, well thats your choice, but you must understand others, me included, live for it - bigger, better, louder, clearer, thats the future - we will always want to get better things.
6. since i was a little kid, ive always started watching Pinocchio and always fell asleep to it, not sure why just did - for the first time in my whole life, i've watched it in full, fully awake - thanks to the amazing picture and sound delivered via BD.
7. For people who say the reworked version doesnt look like it should - tell me this, did you ever think we havent seen the true colors of the film until now?
unless you held the original paintings of Pinocchio - you can not be sure how it really looked, maybe back then the way they originally filmed it 'killed' the true look of the film, and only now we are seeing it, on BD, they way it was intended to be seen - i truly believe that.
8. One more thing about the price, and whats available now
The same thing was back when dvds came out, the first Disney dvd was 'Beauty and the Beast The Enhcanted Christmas' - i paid $40 for that back in 1998, and you can only find action packed movies on BD these days, though not fully true, cuz the people who first run to buy the latest tech stuff like dvd (when it cam eout) or now BD are men, whomen and more slow mover people follow later (i guess you are among that group) so thats why - thats just business, there are some other BDs out there like "accross the univers" and so for, if thoes kind of BDs will sell well, im sure youll see more of them out there - its gonna happen.
I am no longer buying regular dvds btw.
One Q - and be honest, when did you buy your first DVD player?
(just interested)
Bottom line
I was one of the first who got the DVDs, while all of my friends were attached to their laserdiscs (i never got one - never liked that big old thoing) and i held on upgrading to BD (cuz i knew id need a good tv and PS3 with a great HDMI cable to go along with it to truly enjoy it)
now that im there - I ONLY SEE BLUE
COME INTO THE LIGHT LUKE
DVDs may be here for a while
but you can still buy instant coffee - it doesnt mean you should
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After all
i love your writing, either if i agree with it or not
so keep up the amazing work youre doing
and maybe its time to find another name for your great site to add to the U. Disney and DVDizzy....
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You're certainly entitled to your opinions and I'm not going to argue with you, I just wanted to point out calling him "too old" is a bit ridiculous and age really has nothing to do with it. I know people under 20 with no interest in Blu-Ray, and people over 50 who are completely in love with it!lighthousemike wrote:
and if you don't - i'll just say it even know ive never met you - you are just too old to 'GET IT' - sorry, i love you but thats what i think.
As for Luke's Pinocchio review, I loved it!
I thought it was "Blu"? I'm just teasing, I could care less how you spell it - I got reprimanded the other day by a BD fan though because I forgot to leave off the "e"!
I ONLY SEE BLUE
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The review confused me... it said they got the DVD version with the Blu-Ray right?? ... Even if it was just disc 1, that audio/video of the DVD could have been critiqued?
Anyway... I as well disagree with most of what was said about Blu-Ray. First, going against it because it takes away the inserts from the original DVD is kind of a moot point -- they've been getting rid of the inserts for a good, long while now. Also, I see it as a GOOD thing the Blu-Ray is getting more bonus features. Aren't we all complaining lately about how crappy the DVD releases are? The Blu-Rays are getting fantastic bonus features... even if it the DVD loses a few, at least Disney is putting worthwhile material back on their releases. And the features the DVD loses aren't really anything too significant.
And I seriously don't care what anybody's opinion on Blu-Ray is... I don't see how anybody can be anything BUT for supporting Blu-Ray once they see for themselves the magic of it. I've seen Sleeping Beauty and Cars countless times before, but watching the Blu-Ray of each on my 50 inch HDTV... it was like watching them for the first time. The movie comes alive. It has a 3D effect that pops out from the screen that a normal DVD (while still can look magnificant) can't possibly support . It's truly un-freaking-believable.
I can't wait for Pinocchio!
Anyway... I as well disagree with most of what was said about Blu-Ray. First, going against it because it takes away the inserts from the original DVD is kind of a moot point -- they've been getting rid of the inserts for a good, long while now. Also, I see it as a GOOD thing the Blu-Ray is getting more bonus features. Aren't we all complaining lately about how crappy the DVD releases are? The Blu-Rays are getting fantastic bonus features... even if it the DVD loses a few, at least Disney is putting worthwhile material back on their releases. And the features the DVD loses aren't really anything too significant.
And I seriously don't care what anybody's opinion on Blu-Ray is... I don't see how anybody can be anything BUT for supporting Blu-Ray once they see for themselves the magic of it. I've seen Sleeping Beauty and Cars countless times before, but watching the Blu-Ray of each on my 50 inch HDTV... it was like watching them for the first time. The movie comes alive. It has a 3D effect that pops out from the screen that a normal DVD (while still can look magnificant) can't possibly support . It's truly un-freaking-believable.
I can't wait for Pinocchio!
Re: Pinocchio Comparison Shots (Marky get in here)
"Well respected folks"? Haha well, that's funnywallymatters wrote:Marky_198 wrote:
I don't want to replicate that look, I want an image to work, and I want it to make a difference on Pinocchio's face if a flame burns in front of him!
I'm not going to mess with my settings to make an image work!
And let them laugh, and be happy with their sterile image with no source of light, no effect of the flame, a flat/dead image.
The fact that audio/videophiles have no respect for the classics is something I learned a while ago, but the fact they have so little knowledge of what actually works in a film and what doesn't is new for me.
I only came here to tell you just how silly you are. The well respected folks over at AVSForum.com are laughing at you...
I suppose sometimes the fetish for the newest stuff takes over, but If that makes people not see the fact that scenes don't work anymore, that they don't care at all if there's a shadow left, a source of light whatsoever, I wouldn't exactly call them "respected folks". It's sad really.
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I have also read Luke's review of Pinocchio, and while I already have bought into Blu-Ray (2007), I actually pretty much agree with what Luke said in that review.
I agree that Blu-Ray a wonderful format, that does offer some a great hi-def picture and the ability to offer some really wonderful extras that aren't technically possible on DVD. Blu still has some faults (seemingly never-ending software updates are the main thing I still find annoying), but overall I've been happy with my purchase of Blu-Ray. I even plan on buying the upcoming Pinocchio Blu set, simply for the extras (Sorry, not a fan of the restoration, particularly in regards to the color).
Even though I have bought into Blu, I still buy new DVDs. There's a lot of material out there that hasn't been released on Blu, and some of it may never be. Fox, for example, decided that City of Ember didn't warrant a Blu release, I would guess because it flopped at the box office. I wanted the film, so I bought the DVD. If it had been released on Blu, I would have bought a Blu copy but who knows if there will ever be a Blu release of that film.
An even better example is Dr. Syn, the very much in-demand Disney Treasure. If I followed the rules that many Blu fanboys live by, I should have held off buying that one as well and wait for the inevitable Blu version. Once again, I've never heard anything about a Dr. Syn Blu-Ray, so I went out and bought the DVD.
Yes, the studios are going to push Blu-Ray heavily, and I don't think there is a whole lot we, as individuals, can do about it. However, it does make me wonder why these Blu fanboys are so hung up about defeating DVD. Do they miss the format war with HD-DVD so much that they feel the need for a new enemy? Having survived the HD vs Blu war, I'm more than a bit weary of format wars and would simply like to enjoy some really good movies and television shows. If they're available on Blu, then I'll get the Blu release. If they're only available on DVD, then I'll buy the DVD. For me, at least, content is king.
Luke wrote:
As a fan of the Blu format, we don't do ourselves any favors by constantly berating our fellow movie fans who aren't yet ready to make the jump. All we are doing is hardening their anti-Blu stance. While the hard-sell tactics might have worked in the HD vs. Blu war, I don't think this is the best "strategy" to convince DVD fans to jump on board "Blu."
I agree that Blu-Ray a wonderful format, that does offer some a great hi-def picture and the ability to offer some really wonderful extras that aren't technically possible on DVD. Blu still has some faults (seemingly never-ending software updates are the main thing I still find annoying), but overall I've been happy with my purchase of Blu-Ray. I even plan on buying the upcoming Pinocchio Blu set, simply for the extras (Sorry, not a fan of the restoration, particularly in regards to the color).
Even though I have bought into Blu, I still buy new DVDs. There's a lot of material out there that hasn't been released on Blu, and some of it may never be. Fox, for example, decided that City of Ember didn't warrant a Blu release, I would guess because it flopped at the box office. I wanted the film, so I bought the DVD. If it had been released on Blu, I would have bought a Blu copy but who knows if there will ever be a Blu release of that film.
An even better example is Dr. Syn, the very much in-demand Disney Treasure. If I followed the rules that many Blu fanboys live by, I should have held off buying that one as well and wait for the inevitable Blu version. Once again, I've never heard anything about a Dr. Syn Blu-Ray, so I went out and bought the DVD.
Yes, the studios are going to push Blu-Ray heavily, and I don't think there is a whole lot we, as individuals, can do about it. However, it does make me wonder why these Blu fanboys are so hung up about defeating DVD. Do they miss the format war with HD-DVD so much that they feel the need for a new enemy? Having survived the HD vs Blu war, I'm more than a bit weary of format wars and would simply like to enjoy some really good movies and television shows. If they're available on Blu, then I'll get the Blu release. If they're only available on DVD, then I'll buy the DVD. For me, at least, content is king.
Luke wrote:
I think it would be best for us Blu fans to accept that, at least for now, that Blu will have to co-exist with DVD. Many aren't ready to jump into Blu, for many varied reasons. The need for an HDTV, the cost of the players and the movies themselves, a resistance to re-buying films already owned on DVD and, to be fair, the current economic situation are all reasons why a person might choose to not buy into Blu-Ray.To sum up, I'm entirely fine with Blu-ray co-existing with DVD and even taking over at some point (though I'm far from convinced the latter is inevitable, as certain rose-colored media studies have foreseen) if that's what people want. But I think forcing it upon consumers is wrong.
As a fan of the Blu format, we don't do ourselves any favors by constantly berating our fellow movie fans who aren't yet ready to make the jump. All we are doing is hardening their anti-Blu stance. While the hard-sell tactics might have worked in the HD vs. Blu war, I don't think this is the best "strategy" to convince DVD fans to jump on board "Blu."
Exactly.I am the Doctor wrote: at least for me, content is what really matters, not format.
If you prefer an image of a canlde with no effect, source of light, no depth whatsoever (completely unacceptable) over an image with a candle that glows, actually creates a source of light, and you actually get the idea that there would be a difference on the face of the character in the scene if you would blow the candle out, you should really start to think what it's about for you.
The content or the format?
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Does anyone know what the track listing is for the free cd that Target is offering with Pinocchio? I tried searching online, but I can't find the info. I found a picture of the cd's front, and it has the dvd's 70th anniversary title/logo, a picture of Pinocchio, and a phrase about classic Disney songs....but what songs are they?
Also, I liked Luke's review, and I agree with his Blu-ray comments, but I don't understand why he didn't review the picture and sound of the standard dvd that was included.
Also, I liked Luke's review, and I agree with his Blu-ray comments, but I don't understand why he didn't review the picture and sound of the standard dvd that was included.