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UD cracks me up ! :lol:
Wow... There is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yes its not high def, but HDTVs still haven't hit 50% market share in homes yet. Also a lot of homes only have 1 HDTV when they have them right now. Will that change? Sure, eventually it will since they make very few SDTVs anymore, and less each year.

Until all homes have HDTVs and Blu-ray players, and more devices use Blu-ray (computers, portable devices, players for your car, etc...), DVD is still the main format. For Disney to ignore the main format for 7 weeks is a very bad move in my opinion. Although I don't think it will effects sales. Talking to some that have waited for Snow White to be re-released I've found they are surprised that the DVD is released later. When they find out that the Blu-ray has disc 1 of the DVD they don't care and say they will wait until November and get the DVD. I have a feeling that this is what most will do, unless they have plans to upgrade to Blu-ray this year.
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I'll have to add the Adventures of Robin Hood to my "must rent" list I'm going to get today!
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CampbellzSoup wrote:It's not late the Blu Ray is early
Nope. As Platinum Editions come out in March and October the Blu-Ray is right on time, the DVD would in fact be "late" as it's coming out in November...
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You're always worth a standing pink elephant ovation, Pluty. I miss reading your event reports (too busy with work?) and seeing your posts on the forums.
Pluto Region 1 wrote:I saw you about 4 pages back and you took the words right out of my mouth. We've been waiting for it to be released for 7-8 years - what's a few more months? As others here have already argued, its just their marketing strategy. They've got a lot invested in converting us to the new format, with the objective being to get us to adopt so they can resell their entire catalog to us. The delayed release of the DVD is just a minor nudge to get people to Blu-Ray. I don't really see anything wrong with that. But I wonder if that means they will spend precious marketing money to market its release twice
It's a genius marketing move. They'll be promoting Snow White as coming to Blu-Ray and DVD in fourth quarter, with the big push being on Blu-Ray. Then, instead of just having the marketing for the title fizzle out in the weeks after its release, they have a whole seven-week interim between the Blu-Ray and DVD releases where they'll be able to push a "returning to DVD!" angle for the DVD, while continuing to say "and now available for the first time on Blu-Ray!". It's genius. And sure to piss off a small amount of vocal-on-the-internet people.
Pluto Region1 wrote:Yep, I never did get around to reading the thread on the Cinderella release and the big discussion about the quality of the transfer. Still haven't cracked open that DVD yet!
Really? It's been like 4 years since its release. Then again, I took a brief look at my DVD purchase schedule from 2005, and found probably a dozen or so titles that I bought and opened but haven't actually watched yet! (Hmm, maybe I should get rid of them if I haven't gotten around to it by now...)

Anyway, the general consensus regarding the Cinderella transfer is the colours are suddenly brighter and sharper than the old VHS and laserdiscs, and that the DVD colours must be in the wrong. There's a whole bunch of other stuff attached to the debates/arguments and you can just ask Marky 198, he'll give you whole essays about what's wrong.
Pluto Region1 wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but what about the Disney Treasures series? I mean, if Disney wants us to be adopting Blu-Rays - those of us doing so won't want to be buying the Treasures series on DVD.... Then again, the future of WDT series has been in jeopardy for some time now. I doubt we'll ever see them repeat that series on Blu-Ray. (but I guess I should save that for the Treasures threads!)
I certainly wouldn't mind the Treasures content being released on Blu-Ray, and I'm sure Disney has plans for it, just not in the immediate future (so I wouldn't expect the 2009 Treasures to be on Blu-Ray). After all, when DVD first came out, Disney approached the whole thing slowly, and the Treasures came in 2001, five whole years after the format's introduction and about three years after Disney finally jumped on board the DVD bandwagon.

In addition, the material from the Treasures (well, the early ones) would all have to be remastered for high definition, which would take time. I'm sure when Disney was preparing the content for the past couple of waves, they did so in high-definition in anticipation of a future Blu-Ray release, even if it was only getting a standard-definition DVD release at the time. Also, some of the waves had transfers that weren't even as good as they should have been for DVD, so a Blu-Ray re-release with a proper restoration and remastering job would remedy that.
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It breaks my heart. Never in the history of the site or forum have I seen such heated and vitriolic banter, kicks in the balls, and general nastiness than in the Blu-Ray vs. DVD arguments, and it seems no matter what the topic is, somehow a jab at Blu-Ray or DVD (and their respective supporters) works its way in.

But then again, that's why it's easier to laugh it all off as "boys and their toys" and go and do something nonsensical like adjust Veruca Salt's song from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

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Re: Blu Ray or DVD ??? No contest!!!

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Deco King wrote:If people on this website CANNOT see the difference between Sleeping Beauty on DVD and on Blu Ray then THEY NEED THEIR EYES TESTING!!!

Blu Ray is fabulous I just got my first Blu Ray player for £160.00 from Richer Sounds a chain of shops in the UK , and the picture quality is totally amazing nay stupendous make that F-A-B-L-U-L-O-U-S!!!

It's not like you have to go out and buy another player for the DVD's in your existing DVD collection not only do Blu Ray players show your existing DVD's they enhance the picture quality of all your collection!
If I wanted to be subjected to BluRay advertising, I would go to their website. It's unbelievable that every single thread on UD at one point or another turns into a giant free advertisement for BluRay. Either half of UD's member are BluRay employees or get paid by them; or they just have corporate shilling as a hobby.
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DarthPrime wrote:Wow... There is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yes its not high def, but HDTVs still haven't hit 50% market share in homes yet. Also a lot of homes only have 1 HDTV when they have them right now. Will that change? Sure, eventually it will since they make very few SDTVs anymore, and less each year.
DVD is dead, Dude. It's a floppy disc. It's a minidisc. It's a laserdisc. It's a dead format. The same thing will happen to Blu-Ray disc. However, you say there is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yeah, there's one big problem with it...it's not High Def.
Until all homes have HDTVs and Blu-ray players, and more devices use Blu-ray (computers, portable devices, players for your car, etc...), DVD is still the main format.
Wait...until EVERYONE has an HDTV, DVD is the main format? Sorry to burst that bubble, but if the majority of discs being sold are Blu-Ray, that has nothing to do with HDTV ownership, it's pure marketshare. And DVD sales have been shrinking while BLU-RAY is exploding.

VHS died a slow painful death -- the rapid rise of DVD didn't kill VHS in a quick manner, and the zooming adoption of Blu-Ray won't kill DVD in a quick fashion.
For Disney to ignore the main format for 7 weeks is a very bad move in my opinion.
Nonsense -- speaking of sense...when The Sixth Sense came to market, it was DVD only, the VHS didn't follow until weeks later. In order to have a VHS copy, you had to buy the movie on PPV and tape it. And what happened? Massive sales for The Sixth Sense on DVD, and people were led to the superior format at the time. Disney's been doing stuff like this for years -- the last release of Fantasia didn't receive a VHS release at all.
When they find out that the Blu-ray has disc 1 of the DVD they don't care and say they will wait until November and get the DVD. I have a feeling that this is what most will do, unless they have plans to upgrade to Blu-ray this year.
Or this will be another pebble on the seesaw tipping the scale....DVD is dead, this is just another nail in the coffin (and a very public nail, which I applaud).
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The DVD comes with the Blu-Ray.

The supplement disc is the only thing coming "late".
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Rudy Matt wrote:
DarthPrime wrote:Wow... There is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yes its not high def, but HDTVs still haven't hit 50% market share in homes yet. Also a lot of homes only have 1 HDTV when they have them right now. Will that change? Sure, eventually it will since they make very few SDTVs anymore, and less each year.
DVD is dead, Dude. It's a floppy disc. It's a minidisc. It's a laserdisc. It's a dead format. The same thing will happen to Blu-Ray disc. However, you say there is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yeah, there's one big problem with it...it's not High Def.
I'm a big fan of Blu-ray, but I wouldn't say that DVD is dead... yet. To tell the truth, none of my friends have Blu-ray yet, and not all of the have High-Def. I think your argument to say that "DVD is dead" is false. If DVD was dead, why would companies be including DVD discs in Blu-ray sets?
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Goliath wrote:If I wanted to be subjected to BluRay advertising, I would go to their website. It's unbelievable that every single thread on UD at one point or another turns into a giant free advertisement for BluRay. Either half of UD's member are BluRay employees or get paid by them; or they just have corporate shilling as a hobby.
Wow, is your skull so think you can't comprehend why someone would just enjoy a format for what it is? I don't play X-Box but I don't bash the people who use it.

You know what's more unbelievable? That a person like you has to come along and post trash like this in an attempt to make yourself feel better by putting everyone else down instead of actually discussing the content of the release. Scpas was right, this kind of posting is just sad.

Again you must be right about everything. Your well thought out reasoning for this post proves it.
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Rudy Matt wrote:
DarthPrime wrote:Wow... There is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yes its not high def, but HDTVs still haven't hit 50% market share in homes yet. Also a lot of homes only have 1 HDTV when they have them right now. Will that change? Sure, eventually it will since they make very few SDTVs anymore, and less each year.
DVD is dead, Dude. It's a floppy disc. It's a minidisc. It's a laserdisc. It's a dead format. The same thing will happen to Blu-Ray disc. However, you say there is nothing wrong with DVD at all. Yeah, there's one big problem with it...it's not High Def.
Until all homes have HDTVs and Blu-ray players, and more devices use Blu-ray (computers, portable devices, players for your car, etc...), DVD is still the main format.
Wait...until EVERYONE has an HDTV, DVD is the main format? Sorry to burst that bubble, but if the majority of discs being sold are Blu-Ray, that has nothing to do with HDTV ownership, it's pure marketshare. And DVD sales have been shrinking while BLU-RAY is exploding.

VHS died a slow painful death -- the rapid rise of DVD didn't kill VHS in a quick manner, and the zooming adoption of Blu-Ray won't kill DVD in a quick fashion.
For Disney to ignore the main format for 7 weeks is a very bad move in my opinion.
Nonsense -- speaking of sense...when The Sixth Sense came to market, it was DVD only, the VHS didn't follow until weeks later. In order to have a VHS copy, you had to buy the movie on PPV and tape it. And what happened? Massive sales for The Sixth Sense on DVD, and people were led to the superior format at the time. Disney's been doing stuff like this for years -- the last release of Fantasia didn't receive a VHS release at all.
When they find out that the Blu-ray has disc 1 of the DVD they don't care and say they will wait until November and get the DVD. I have a feeling that this is what most will do, unless they have plans to upgrade to Blu-ray this year.
Or this will be another pebble on the seesaw tipping the scale....DVD is dead, this is just another nail in the coffin (and a very public nail, which I applaud).
DVD is dead? That's the biggest laugh of the day. :lol:
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DVD a dead format? :lol:

The majority of sales are still DVD sales, and they will be for at least a couple more years if Blu-ray really takes over. That's hardly what I would call a dead format.

Also someone above mentioned how each topic ends up turning into a Blu-ray Vs. DVD topic. I've really noticed that, and so far this is the only forum I visit that this happens on. I really think UD needs a seperate Blu-ray and DVD forum. There can be a Snow White Blu-ray thread, and a Snow White DVD thread, etc... Maybe that can sort this mess out.
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DarthPrime wrote:I really think UD needs a seperate Blu-ray and DVD forum.
The sad thing is that there is.
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/bashesheadagainstdeskrepeatedly

Why is it we can't have any discussion anymore without it resorting to this stupid pointless bickering between dvd and blu-ray? I mean seriously why can't everyone just back off and agree to disagree? We had a very long drawn out argument in the Pinocchio platinum thread (most likely Sleeping Beauty as well). Personally I am finding this extremely frustrating and it's making UD a less enjoyable place to come to.

And no, I'm not blaming just blu-ray fans like Rudy Matt for this nor am I blaming only dvd users like Goliath for this (No offence towards you both I just chose two random names for examples) I blame everyone (including myself for even bothering to post this).

So why can't we just drop this discussion and get it back on track about the actual movie, or the bonus features? Or even the horrendous cover art and whether or not it'll come with a slipcover that opens like a book or if it'll just be shiny and embossed or just shiny :P God I miss slipcover threads they were far more tolerable than the f****** blu-ray vs dvd discussions.

For those of you who will respond with a "oh then just don't read it" reply, I'm going to answer you now and only once. I would skip it except for the fact it pops up seemingly everywhere. Hence the frustration I'm feeling.

/getsoffsoapbox
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Flanger-Hanger wrote:
DarthPrime wrote:I really think UD needs a seperate Blu-ray and DVD forum.
The sad thing is that there is.
I wasn't aware of that. I know we have a Disney forum, and then one for General DVD, Blu-ray, HD DVD topics.
Chernabog_Rocks wrote:/bashesheadagainstdeskrepeatedly

Why is it we can't have any discussion anymore without it resorting to this stupid pointless bickering between dvd and blu-ray? I mean seriously why can't everyone just back off and agree to disagree? We had a very long drawn out argument in the Pinocchio platinum thread (most likely Sleeping Beauty as well). Personally I am finding this extremely frustrating and it's making UD a less enjoyable place to come to.

And no, I'm not blaming just blu-ray fans like Rudy Matt for this nor am I blaming only dvd users like Goliath for this (No offence towards you both I just chose two random names for examples) I blame everyone (including myself for even bothering to post this).

So why can't we just drop this discussion and get it back on track about the actual movie, or the bonus features? Or even the horrendous cover art and whether or not it'll come with a slipcover that opens like a book or if it'll just be shiny and embossed or just shiny :P God I miss slipcover threads they were far more tolerable than the f****** blu-ray vs dvd discussions.

For those of you who will respond with a "oh then just don't read it" reply, I'm going to answer you now and only once. I would skip it except for the fact it pops up seemingly everywhere. Hence the frustration I'm feeling.

/getsoffsoapbox
It is annoying, and I'm guilty of posting to these threads as well. Anyway I agree with what you have said.

Although I do think creating separate forums (if they don't exist) for Disney Blu-ray and then one for Disney DVD will help control the Blu-ray Vs. DVD battle that seems to erupt on every topic lately.

Anyway I'm though with the discussion of Blu-ray Vs. DVD... I just don't care anymore.
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Chernabog_Rocks wrote:/bashesheadagainstdeskrepeatedly

Why is it we can't have any discussion anymore without it resorting to this stupid pointless bickering between dvd and blu-ray? I mean seriously why can't everyone just back off and agree to disagree? We had a very long drawn out argument in the Pinocchio platinum thread (most likely Sleeping Beauty as well). Personally I am finding this extremely frustrating and it's making UD a less enjoyable place to come to.

And no, I'm not blaming just blu-ray fans like Rudy Matt for this nor am I blaming only dvd users like Goliath for this (No offence towards you both I just chose two random names for examples) I blame everyone (including myself for even bothering to post this).

So why can't we just drop this discussion and get it back on track about the actual movie, or the bonus features? Or even the horrendous cover art and whether or not it'll come with a slipcover that opens like a book or if it'll just be shiny and embossed or just shiny :P God I miss slipcover threads they were far more tolerable than the f****** blu-ray vs dvd discussions.

For those of you who will respond with a "oh then just don't read it" reply, I'm going to answer you now and only once. I would skip it except for the fact it pops up seemingly everywhere. Hence the frustration I'm feeling.

/getsoffsoapbox
I am not sure if I am one of the ones you are talking about. But I knew very little about all the past stuff that has happend in the Blu-ray and DVD debates. I basically just heard some news today about the Snow White Dvd coming 7 weeks after the Blu-ray so I started a thread about it and I posted about it on this thread, because I wanted to see some opinions about all of this. The thread that I started was joined into this thread.

Anyways I am fine with both Blu-ray and Dvds :)
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Chernabog_Rocks wrote:/bashesheadagainstdeskrepeatedly

Why is it we can't have any discussion anymore without it resorting to this stupid pointless bickering between dvd and blu-ray? I mean seriously why can't everyone just back off and agree to disagree? We had a very long drawn out argument in the Pinocchio platinum thread (most likely Sleeping Beauty as well). Personally I am finding this extremely frustrating and it's making UD a less enjoyable place to come to.

And no, I'm not blaming just blu-ray fans like Rudy Matt for this nor am I blaming only dvd users like Goliath for this (No offence towards you both I just chose two random names for examples) I blame everyone (including myself for even bothering to post this).

So why can't we just drop this discussion and get it back on track about the actual movie, or the bonus features? Or even the horrendous cover art and whether or not it'll come with a slipcover that opens like a book or if it'll just be shiny and embossed or just shiny :P God I miss slipcover threads they were far more tolerable than the f****** blu-ray vs dvd discussions.

For those of you who will respond with a "oh then just don't read it" reply, I'm going to answer you now and only once. I would skip it except for the fact it pops up seemingly everywhere. Hence the frustration I'm feeling.

/getsoffsoapbox
The only reason Blu Ray fans get so hostile is because the DVD only users are the ones who keep bringing it up.
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I just think they should release both DVD and Blu Ray release on the same day.....so that way no more confusing days of Bolt, Lilo, and Now Bedtime Stories get put on the shelf like the week before they are suppose to be out I bet how it happened was like Big Game of Telephone and by the time the message got to the store it was in scrambles of when to release the movie....


I hope disney didnt choose 7 weeks because there are 7 Dwarfs....I can See it now:

Week 1: Grumpy

Week 2: Sneezy

Week 3: Bashful

Week 4: Happy

Week 5: Sleepy

Week 6: Doc

Week 7: Dopey comes out dancing on dvd with Snow white in that scene where Dopey is dancing with her in the cottage
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You know disneyboy20022, that's actually a good reason.
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Mickeyfan1990 wrote:You know disneyboy20022, that's actually a good reason.
Thanks....I Thought it was too but I am glad to hear that someone agrees with me......

I remember when Scooby Doo the Live Action Movie with EVIL Scrappy Doo was out on DVD...its release was on a Friday to DVD.....and I somehow remember having a 10 minute arguement with the Electronics Department of Wal-mart....they showed me the sheet that said did not list Scooby on tuesdays releases.....that's when I pointed out on the same sheet...uhh what's it say for today on Friday....and sure enough it said the release was that day and the employee turned a very pale white color and soon after that they raidoed back to the stock room to get it out here pronto or something to that effect....



The Moral of that event told me....just release movies on Tuesday...don't mess with the system unless It's the day after Christmas such as when Toy Story 2 - 2-disc Woody's Roundup Edition was released on DVD...because in most situations......when any studio tries to release a movie or a differ format other than Tuesday it usually ends up in more of a headache than a profit
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CampbellzSoup wrote:
The only reason Blu Ray fans get so hostile is because the DVD only users are the ones who keep bringing it up.
Which is why I said I blame everyone :) (Including myself)

It's a vicious circle that can be ended if one side just ignores the other when the subject comes up. So dvd only users bring it up, good for them just act like the post doesn't exist and don't reply. By replying to them bringing it up you get them to reply to you and things become more hostile.

It's like a fodder cannon, Step 1: Get your cousin Step 2: Put your cousin in the cannon Step 3: Find another cousin

Ok I don't know what that example has to do with anything but I'm not Mr. Example Guy :)

I feel like I'm standing in the middle of a field and both sides are flying towards me swords drawn going RAAWRGH KILL THE DVD USERS and RAAWRGH KILL THE BLURAY FANS and all I've got to defend myself is a flimsy openslikeabookisshinyandembossed slipcover :lol:

Before you ask, I'm still waiting for the results to come in on whether or not I'm (fully) sane.
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