The same thing can be said for Donald and Goofy in the latter portions of the classic era as well.jazzflower92 wrote:I think they are not using Pluto is because frankly in the original shorts he was usually the spot light stealer.Big Disney Fan wrote: Like I said, maybe the writers know something that the fans don't.
Sorta. Donald and Goofy simply "outgrew" their secondary stauses, which was why they were starring in some adventures minus Mickey (Polar Trappers, The Fox Hound) before they were each able to support their own series.disneyphilip wrote:The same thing can be said for Donald and Goofy in the latter portions of the classic era as well.
Not to mention sharing the Roman name of Hades.Semaj wrote:Sorta. Donald and Goofy simply "outgrew" their secondary stauses, which was why they were starring in some adventures minus Mickey (Polar Trappers, The Fox Hound) before they were each able to support their own series.disneyphilip wrote:The same thing can be said for Donald and Goofy in the latter portions of the classic era as well.
While Pluto was also able to star without Mickey, he would still be used when animators "ran out of ideas" for Mickey. Mickey himself would fold into Pluto's series after 1942. All of which is baffling, because Pluto NEVER became a superstar like Donald or Goofy. He does not have a distinctive personality like Mickey, Donald, or Goofy, and aside from the "groundbreaking" personality animation from Playful Pluto, he is mostly only remembered for sharing a name with a (dwarf) planet.
Still, the fact that Pluto, Goofy and especially Donald all became more popular than Mickey and stole the mouse's thunder by the end of the 1930's cannot be denied.Semaj wrote:Sorta. Donald and Goofy simply "outgrew" their secondary stauses, which was why they were starring in some adventures minus Mickey (Polar Trappers, The Fox Hound) before they were each able to support their own series.disneyphilip wrote:The same thing can be said for Donald and Goofy in the latter portions of the classic era as well.
While Pluto was also able to star without Mickey, he would still be used when animators "ran out of ideas" for Mickey. Mickey himself would fold into Pluto's series after 1942. All of which is baffling, because Pluto NEVER became a superstar like Donald or Goofy. He does not have a distinctive personality like Mickey, Donald, or Goofy, and aside from the "groundbreaking" personality animation from Playful Pluto, he is mostly only remembered for sharing a name with a (dwarf) planet.
I highly doubt today's artists would want to let Mickey fade into powerlessness again.disneyphilip wrote:Still, the fact that Pluto, Goofy and especially Donald all became more popular than Mickey and stole the mouse's thunder by the end of the 1930's cannot be denied.Semaj wrote: Sorta. Donald and Goofy simply "outgrew" their secondary stauses, which was why they were starring in some adventures minus Mickey (Polar Trappers, The Fox Hound) before they were each able to support their own series.
While Pluto was also able to star without Mickey, he would still be used when animators "ran out of ideas" for Mickey. Mickey himself would fold into Pluto's series after 1942. All of which is baffling, because Pluto NEVER became a superstar like Donald or Goofy. He does not have a distinctive personality like Mickey, Donald, or Goofy, and aside from the "groundbreaking" personality animation from Playful Pluto, he is mostly only remembered for sharing a name with a (dwarf) planet.
There is a difference between a star and a superstar. Sure, Pluto starred in his own theatrical series. But has Pluto ever been an iconic character that people can apply to their own lives? (People love Goofy for his How-to/sports stories, his suburban persona George Geef, his "goofy" laugh, or his famous holler.)Also, I disagree with you on Pluto not being a superstar like Donald or Goofy. I feel that he did indeed become a superstar in his own right as well, as well as having a distinct personality of his own. And the fact that he even got to star in his own long-running series of shorts without Mickey further adds to the pup's superstar status as well.
Well, the cartoon "Lend a Paw" won an Academy Award, so that should probably count for something, shouldn't it? Sure, the title card says it's a Mickey cartoon, but most official sources put it under Pluto's list of shorts, not Mickey's. The only cartoon that is officially part of both Mickey's and Pluto's respective filmographies is "Plutopia". Speaking of which, that is a great short, too. So Pluto has indeed appeared in some pretty worthwhile shorts.Semaj wrote:There is a difference between a star and a superstar. Sure, Pluto starred in his own theatrical series.
It brings to mind that Donald and Goofy cartoon "No Sail".Semaj wrote:It makes sense in more ways than one.
Daisy is in it, wonderful!Mickeyfan1990 wrote:Donald The Sailor preview!:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationsco ... d-20140805
Well, well, well, Donald. So now the truth comes out.
Now if only Pluto makes another appearance. I don't think the eye color is enough to give it away. There have been sharks with red eyes in Disney before, such as, here again, in "No Sail":disneyphilip wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgOxH4A ... JQ&index=1
Judging by some other clips from "Donald the Sailor" shown in the above video, it seems that this episode is going to be giving us a cameo appearance by Glut the Shark from "The Little Mermaid". At least I think it's Glut, since Glut has red eyes and so does the shark in the above video.
Good point.Big Disney Fan wrote:I don't think the eye color is enough to give it away. There have been sharks with red eyes in Disney before, such as, here again, in "No Sail":disneyphilip wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgOxH4A ... JQ&index=1
Judging by some other clips from "Donald the Sailor" shown in the above video, it seems that this episode is going to be giving us a cameo appearance by Glut the Shark from "The Little Mermaid". At least I think it's Glut, since Glut has red eyes and so does the shark in the above video.
I have to agree. The Pluto cartoons were the weakest of 40s/50s Disney shorts.There is a difference between a star and a superstar. Sure, Pluto starred in his own theatrical series. But has Pluto ever been an iconic character that people can apply to their own lives? (People love Goofy for his How-to/sports stories, his suburban persona George Geef, his "goofy" laugh, or his famous holler.)
Well, there were 48 Pluto cartoons altogether. Until 2007, Goofy had the exact same amount of shorts. Did I mention that "Lend a Paw" won an Academy Award, too?willard wrote:I have to agree. The Pluto cartoons were the weakest of 40s/50s Disney shorts.There is a difference between a star and a superstar. Sure, Pluto starred in his own theatrical series. But has Pluto ever been an iconic character that people can apply to their own lives? (People love Goofy for his How-to/sports stories, his suburban persona George Geef, his "goofy" laugh, or his famous holler.)
Great cartoon. Now, if only they show The Boiler Room already.
