Moana

[DisneyJedi]

After a short break we'll finally get Ron and John's next feature, "Moana" which will be a Polynesian tale involving the island folk and the idols made famous the world over. It will also mark the directing duo's first computer animated film, or at least computer hybrid animated film (think "Paperman").

Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2013/07/cl ... ahead.html

I'm hoping it's the latter. Heck, I'm still hoping hand-drawn still has a future there.

[TsWade2]

Steve Hulett: Haven't talked to them of late, so I don't know. Last I heard, it was going to LOOK like all-CG with hand-drawn elements under some of the CG. I think the all hand-drawn feature at Walt Disney ANimation Studios is currently ka-poot.

Ugh! To hell with Steve Hulett that we won't get hand drawn for a while! But, I'm excited to hear about upcoming movies.

[estefan]

Ugh! To hell with Steve Hulett that we won't get hand drawn for a while! But, I'm excited to hear about upcoming movies.

Can I just give you a medal for simply using that emoticon? Only use that one from now on and I'll shower you will a million more medals.

Anyway, I think they will go with the Paperman style. It's way too early in development to say which style will be used. We're five years away from the rumoured release date (which is actually pretty insane, when you also remember there will be a nine year gap after the last Clements/Musker feature) and a lot can change in the animation industry and at Disney in that time frame.

[Escapay]

Given its Polynesian theme, I'm assuming the title is pronounced Mo-ana and not Moan-a?

Albert

[TsWade2]

Ugh! To hell with Steve Hulett that we won't get hand drawn for a while! But, I'm excited to hear about upcoming movies.

Can I just give you a medal for simply using that emoticon? Only use that one from now on and I'll shower you will a million more medals.

Anyway, I think they will go with the Paperman style. It's way too early in development to say which style will be used. We're five years away from the rumoured release date (which is actually pretty insane, when you also remember there will be a nine year gap after the last Clements/Musker feature) and a lot can change in the animation industry and at Disney in that time frame.

Oooh! Okay.

[DisneyEra]

Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2013/07/cl ... ahead.html

I'm hoping it's the latter. Heck, I'm still hoping hand-drawn still has a future there.

Even though there are no hand-drawn features coming this decade, the films just announced "then removed" are very diverse & different from each other. Plus, neither is a sequeal/prequeal!

[Neal]

Is it Moara or Moana? I though BSD had it as "Moara"

[Atlantica]

They might have been inspired by the Enchanted Tiki Room. Interestingly, Disney had plans for a live-action film based on the attraction in 2010.

Oh right ! I see, that makes sense. Interesting if it is something to do with the Tiki Room; funny how they are also adapting 'Tommorrowland' into a film too ?? Soon the whole theme park will be done !

[Disney's Divinity]

We're five years away from the rumoured release date (which is actually pretty insane, when you also remember there will be a nine year gap after the last Clements/Musker feature)

I'm not sure why that's a big deal, considering there was a 7 year gap between TP and TP&TF, and 5 years between Aladdin/Hercules/TP. It may also do with the fact that they're older now, too, and possibly not in a rush?

As for myself, I don't think there's a shot in hell this'll be anything but standard 3D. I actually feel sorry for them being as long at Disney as they have and yet they seem to have less control over this and TP&TF than they did when they started back when TGMD, TLM, and Aladdin were being made. But I'm not surprised with Lasseter in control of Disney now.

[Lnds500]

Is it Moara or Moana? I though BSD had it as "Moara"

It's Moana. Yes, it was a typo which doesn't make sense. Moana on the other hand

Moana, a word meaning "ocean" in most Polynesian languages

I'm intrigued. It's vague, but it sounds interesting

[Sotiris]

Is it Moara or Moana? I though BSD had it as "Moara"

As Lnds500 said, it was a typo which he afterwards corrected. He had also listed Giants before Zootopia but he then changed that as well.

I met the two directors as well, but in the D23 Expo. The first time I met John Musker, I talked to him about the upcoming film, "Moana", and the future of hand-drawn animation. He told me that they are working on the Paperman technique in the film, and probably testing it.

Source: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/393535265/3176834011

[Sotiris]

As for myself, I don't think there's a shot in hell this'll be anything but standard 3D. I actually feel sorry for them being as long at Disney as they have and yet they seem to have less control over this and TP&TF than they did when they started back when TGMD, TLM, and Aladdin were being made. But I'm not surprised with Lasseter in control of Disney now.

You were right on the money. It turns out Moana will be indeed in ordinary CG.

A member of the Italian board Disney Digital Forum named Scissorhands attended the D23 Expo and asked around about Moana. Here's what he found out.

I had the opportunity to briefly talk to Ron Clements and John Musker. You can imagine my excitement. I asked if there is any chance their film will be in 2D. They answered diplomatically saying it would be very very very difficult (so no) and that in any case the film is actually in the early stages of development. Then I turned around and they were gone! I wanted to ask if there was at least a possibility of using the Paperman technique. Oh, well.

Then all of a sudden I see Nik Ranieri in the collectors booth signing autographs for a fee ($ 5). What can I say? It was amazing. We talked a lot and he drew me a sketch with a dedication (I asked for Hades; it was $25). [...] He told me he was looking for work, that he's having a hard time, that he has a family to support, and was very disheartened about the whole 2D thing. He said that according to him Disney did not support The Princess and the Frog enough, and having them make Pooh afterwards was suicide. He also said that at the last meeting Lasseter was very clear; Moana will be in CGI. So for now use of the Paperman technique is not planned. [...]

Source: http://disneyvideo.altervista.org/forum ... ntry675178

[DisneyJedi]

OH, COME ON!!!

Sorry, it's just this news feels like the biggest 'FUCK YOU!'/middle finger to any hand-drawn Disney fan, myself included. I guess it's pretty damn clear that they only care about being basic than being unique.

[estefan]

Musker and Clements still say it's in early development, so anything could change. And just because THIS isn't the film using the Paperman technique, does mean another one isn't.

Also, disappointing to hear Nik Ranieri is having trouble finding another studio, especially since he has done computer animation in the past.

[DisneyJedi]

Why doesn't Nik go work for Dreamworks or something?

[Atlantica]

Can't they use him in other departments ?

[estefan]

Why doesn't Nik go work for Dreamworks or something?

DreamWorks has actually laid off a bunch of people lately, following the recent box-office disappointments of Rise of the Guardians (though that managed to sell really well on home video) and Turbo. So, I don't know if DWA is hiring at the moment. But I don't see why other places in LA can't hire a legend like Ranieri, either as a computer animator or a character designer.

[Disney's Divinity]

You were right on the money. It turns out Moana will be indeed in ordinary CG.

Shame. It's too bad this couldn't be the Paperman-technique film Eric Goldberg was talking about (if what he was talking about is actually true at all).

[DisneyJedi]

Do we know for a fact that it's ultimately going to end up being just CG and not imploring the Paperman technique? Of course we don't.

It's still too early to know. Moana will be released five years from now. A lot could happen between then and now.

[Sotiris]

It's too bad this couldn't be the Paperman-technique film Eric Goldberg was talking about (if what he was talking about is actually true at all).

Here's what Eric Goldberg actually said about that. It doesn't sound very promising to me.