Sleeping Beauty Confirmed for DVD AND BLU-RAY in 2008 !!!

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Never-Before-Seen Alternate Opening
All-New Game: "Briar Rose's Waltz"
All-New Music Video
All-New Making Of Sleeping Beauty Featurette
Deleted Songs

What the heck?!? There better be more bonus features for the DVD. I know it's going to have all the bonus features the Blu-Ray will have, but come on?? Maybe they'll transfer all the special edition material onto this release.
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yukitora wrote:There IS more picture, both in width and height. Amazing, even if it's not OAR...

The picture quality looks amazing. Very vibrant, maybe too vibrant, but if I'm in a gloomy mood I can just look at the darker S.E. version.
Actually, those aren't direct screencaps from the restoration; they're just old publicity photos. Disney always releases stock publicity photos for their DVDs so that reviewers and articles covering the release can put some media into their pieces.

I, personally, don't think there's any reason to panic...yet. Disney's Cine Explore covers a lot of ground and is where the bulk of the bonus material will lie. Cars and Ratatouille's Cine Explore sections had about an hour and a half's worth of supplements each. I suspect most of the 2003 SE content for Sleeping Beauty (along with some new featurettes) will be found within Cine Explore. The frustrating thing is that Disney won't tell us specifically what this film's Cine Explore will contain.
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^aww.... but the description said "still and publicity photos"...

well, thanks for heads up Disneykid, I didn't know they were old (they don't look it at all). Atleast the Cine Explore sounds promising!
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I just hope that regular dvd has some good features too. Not like National Treasure 2 that had and exclusive deleted scenes for the bluray. I can just see it now "Exclusive song demos and deleted story board sequences only found on bluray" It's not the picture or the tech stuff that i want a bluray player for it's because soon enough bluray will get the best bonus features.
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Disneykid wrote:I, personally, don't think there's any reason to panic...yet. Disney's Cine Explore covers a lot of ground and is where the bulk of the bonus material will lie. Cars and Ratatouille's Cine Explore sections had about an hour and a half's worth of supplements each. I suspect most of the 2003 SE content for Sleeping Beauty (along with some new featurettes) will be found within Cine Explore. The frustrating thing is that Disney won't tell us specifically what this film's Cine Explore will contain.
Well, if one is sticking with STANDARD DVD and hoping they can at least be bothered to make the Platinum AS GOOD AS the previous 2-disc Sleeping Beauty release on standard DVD, this could be a cause for concern.

Luckilly for me I have the 2003 SE , but if I didn't, I'd be pretty pissed at the idea that the bulk of the meaty supliments on the Platinum could be Blue Ray exclusive via the "Cine Explore" feature.

If they go ahead and half ass the STANDARD DVD Platinum in a shameless attempt to get people to buy blue rays (cough Cars, Ratatouille) it will be a slap in the face to all the people who have supported their DVD releases all these years. This is a Platinum title, and even the standard version should be BETTER than the already solid 2-disc SE!

If they have weaker supplimental material on the standard Platinum than on the SE, it will truly be a sign that Disney doesn't give a darn about standard DVD or the people who are sticking with it. It will make the Platinum "line" lose any credibility it had left. And it will make me more determined than ever to stick with standard def and tell BVHE where they can SHOVE their blue ray schemes to make us switch!
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A while back I heard a rumour that Pierre Lambert the French author of Mickey Mouse, Pinocchio, and Blanche Neige was turning his attentions to Sleeping Beauty I do hope so his other book particularly Blanche Neige are superb glossy tomes !

Do if you see it anywhere purchase Blanche Neige it is absolutely fabulous!!
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Sleeping Beauty: Platinum Edition

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Disneykid wrote:Actually, those aren't direct screencaps from the restoration; they're just old publicity photos. Disney always releases stock publicity photos for their DVDs so that reviewers and articles covering the release can put some media into their pieces.
Are you sure? I've never seen those pictures before, and they don't look old. They look so new and bright and terrific. It even shows how Aurora's blue is a drearier, sadder, darker color marking her emotion and situation until it becomes bright, happy pink again, and why pink was at first a boy's color as it marked fierceness and boldness. Maybe that's why Flora's the leader and kind of defeats the dragon more. Notice, two people in red capes are the main ones defeating the villain.

Thank you L&E! Glad I could get such a huge image of the cover!
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David S. you voiced my fears and concerns perfectly. I just pray to god the the PE will be just as good as the SE or i will half to buy a used copy
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Mike wrote:
Kelvin wrote:Actually, those aren't direct screencaps from the restoration; they're just old publicity photos. Disney always releases stock publicity photos for their DVDs so that reviewers and articles covering the release can put some media into their pieces.
Are you sure?
If not then the Fox and the Hound aspect ratio conundrum would have been solved ages ago...
In [url=http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=269265#269265]An Old 2006 Thread[/url] I wrote: Image
Main frame: 25th AE cap from lighthouse mike
Boxed frames: GC cap from my DVD, superimposed in appropriate areas
Side frame: Publicity Still from IGN, accidentally mis-aligned by me...

Regardless of the fact that it's a publicity still, it's proof that there's more beyond the animated frames we get on VHS and DVD. And why else would Disney go out of their way to provide *more* image in a publicity still than in the actual film cel?
Of course, it still opens up the can of worms regarding whether or not the publicity stills are taken from the film, or redrawn bits. And later in the thread, MichaeLeah points out that the image would still be incomplete as it only would measure 1.5:1 and not 1.66:1, like The Rescuers.

And later in the thread, This Post provides screencaps to show what a 1.66:1 matting job would look like on some frames when compared to the 1.66:1 cap that is shown during the "Passing the Baton" featurette...

;)

But anyway, back to Sleeping Beauty. The publicity stills are...well...it's like Cinderella: Recoloured, Part Two. Though that Maleficent still is gorgeous.

Regarding the bonus features, I really don't expect much from Disney anymore. They can do an amazing set when they want to, but given how much DVD is being given the shaft over Blu-Ray, I'm expecting the cut-and-paste treatment that the past few Platinums have received.

I just hope they retain the <strike>commentary</strike> audio documentary. It's well worth a listen, especially for those who haven't yet listened to it time and time again on the 2003 DVD.

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David S. wrote:Well, if one is sticking with STANDARD DVD and hoping they can at least be bothered to make the Platinum AS GOOD AS the previous 2-disc Sleeping Beauty release on standard DVD, this could be a cause for concern.
Be concerned already. You only have to look at the last three years of Disney DVD releases to realise that.
Luckilly for me I have the 2003 SE , but if I didn't, I'd be pretty pissed at the idea that the bulk of the meaty supliments on the Platinum could be Blue Ray exclusive via the "Cine Explore" feature.
The stuff on the Sleeping Beauty SE isn't stuff that fits in with the Cine Explore feature. The SB SE features were largely long running archive footage. Cine Explore shows images on screen over a commentary and also branches out to short featurettes (imagine the Atlantis DVD or the Dinosaur DVD). Now Bonus View is implemented, its possible branching may be removed, and the short featurettes simply displayed as smaller picture in picture content though.
If they go ahead and half ass the STANDARD DVD Platinum in a shameless attempt to get people to buy blue rays (cough Cars, Ratatouille) it will be a slap in the face to all the people who have supported their DVD releases all these years. This is a Platinum title, and even the standard version should be BETTER than the already solid 2-disc SE!

If they have weaker supplimental material on the standard Platinum than on the SE, it will truly be a sign that Disney doesn't give a darn about standard DVD or the people who are sticking with it. It will make the Platinum "line" lose any credibility it had left. And it will make me more determined than ever to stick with standard def and tell BVHE where they can SHOVE their blue ray schemes to make us switch!
The Platinum line still has credibility? That's news for me. Personally, when Disney were making their Vault Disney titles, and stuff like the awesome Atlantis: The Lost Empire 2 discer (or even as recently as the international Lilo and Stitch 2 discer) the Platinum line had already lost its credibility.

Really people, they're just pointless labels! I mean, how can anyone think that they're more after recent Platinum editions like Peter Pan (UGH!) or 101 Dalmations (first disc uses little more than half the capacity of a DVD9, and the second disc is just okay, but also filled with those stupid virtual puppies).

Give me Tron, Atlantis, Lilo and Stich - heck, give me the single disc Vault Disney releases like Escape from Witch Mountain over any of the last few Platinum releases anytime.
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2099net wrote:
David S. wrote:Well, if one is sticking with STANDARD DVD and hoping they can at least be bothered to make the Platinum AS GOOD AS the previous 2-disc Sleeping Beauty release on standard DVD, this could be a cause for concern.
Be concerned already. You only have to look at the last three years of Disney DVD releases to realise that.
Yes, I know the quality of Disney DVD has been declining in general ever since the Tarzan 1 disc fiasco, and obviously the Platinums have declined compared to say, Snow White and Aladdin (cough, Peter Pan "read along" feature????) . But still, I think we would all agree that whether each Platinum was as good as it could/should be, they each at least represented the best release of that title so far on DVD. Speculation that the meaty bonus features on SB would be found in the Cine Explore feature on Blue Ray (and presumably NOT on the standard) is what I meant by concern - that this could theoretically be the first Platinum DVD to not be more definitive than it's previous edition.
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The stuff on the Sleeping Beauty SE isn't stuff that fits in with the Cine Explore feature. The SB SE features were largely long running archive footage. Cine Explore shows images on screen over a commentary and also branches out to short featurettes (imagine the Atlantis DVD or the Dinosaur DVD). Now Bonus View is implemented, its possible branching may be removed, and the short featurettes simply displayed as smaller picture in picture content though.
Well, I was responding to the speculation posted above by Disneykid that possibly the extras on the SE would be part of Cine Explore
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The Platinum line still has credibility? That's news for me. Personally, when Disney were making their Vault Disney titles, and stuff like the awesome Atlantis: The Lost Empire 2 discer (or even as recently as the international Lilo and Stitch 2 discer) the Platinum line had already lost its credibility.

Really people, they're just pointless labels! I mean, how can anyone think that they're more after recent Platinum editions like Peter Pan (UGH!) or 101 Dalmations (first disc uses little more than half the capacity of a DVD9, and the second disc is just okay, but also filled with those stupid virtual puppies).
Yes, I know it's just a name. I don't care if they call it Platinum, Ambrosia, Copper, or Puce, I just want solid 2-disc editions with lots of substantial bonus features. :)

I meant the Platinum "brand" would be losing "credibility" is the sense that, flaws and all, each Platinum was still the best DVD release each has had so far. I know Mermaid, Lady and the Tramp, Peter Pan, 101 Dalmatians etc. could and should be "meatier" - however, I still enjoy what is there and don't feel like these are bad releases per se. (that Peter Pan 70 something minute read along, though, just makes NO SENSE and wastes space)

So it would follow that if the Platinum SB has less "meat" in the bonus catagory than the SE - then the line would lose "credibility" in the sense that it would no longer represent the most comprehensive release to date of this title, which could be a historic low first for anything bearing the "platinum" name.

By dropping the pan and scan transfer (as they should) there is NO reason not to port over everything from the SE and still have room for new bonus features.
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Re: Cine Explorer

There's no reason why a DVD version of this couldn't exist (based on Cars and Ratatouille). It wouldn't be as good, admittedly, but various DVDs have had storyboard subtitle tracks (such as Anchor Bays Army of Darkness), various DVDs have had branching out segments (such as the infamous White Rabbit on the Matrix (in 1999 no less). And of course any DVD can have a commentary. New Line DVD does rather well with their Infinifilm releases for example.

Even if all this was too complicated, they could do a second disc with CineExplorer pop-ups and features encoded into the actual audio and video stream (just like they did with The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe 4 disc release). update: And Bambi did something similar with Inside Walt's Story Meetings. So it could be done, Disney have shown that!

But its clear Disney has fallen out of love with the DVD format. I wouldn't expect anything except the bare minimum Disney feels that they can get away with on the new Sleeping Beauty Platinum. Sorry.
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I'd love to see some screen captures from Sleeping Beauty in particular Maleficent!
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The Disney Blu-Ray website added Sleeping Beauty:
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/bluray/
They should have just Aurora in the clipart but Remy is with Linguini so I guess it doesn't matter,and that clipart is pretty.
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^is that the cover? What happened to the BLUEness??

man, this release is going to be BEAUTIFUL.

I agree, the older platinums were way better, but Australia only started getting platinums with The Jungle Book, some releases (such a Lady) was shortened down to a 1-disc set, missing half the featurettes, games (yes I wanted more games), even two sections from the making of! So basically I'll be happy with what I get. My standards for Disney are low :wink:

edit: has anyone seen this? http://disneyshopping.go.com/webapp/wcs ... E&att=BVHE

The blu-ray set is going to be 3 discs! Two blu-ray, one DVD. Hopefully the DVD will have the whole movie, rather than the target-exclusive bonus disc enchanted got or something. It could be a purely promotional dvd though....
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That's really strange they would include a DVD with the Blu-Ray...It might be just promo...
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I know this is a unpopular question, and personally I am glad its a widescreen release. However will the Platinum DVD also include a pan and scan 1.33:1 version too like the previous SE?

I know the 2.55:1 ratio will be very unpopular with a lot of people on their older SDTVs.
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CornyCollins wrote:That's really strange they would include a DVD with the Blu-Ray...It might be just promo...
It might be a Digital Copy (like in the footsteps of The Nightmare Before Christmas...)
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DarthPrime wrote:However will the Platinum DVD also include a pan and scan 1.33:1 version too like the previous SE?
Given the fact that Lady and the Tramp got one (though they got the wrong one), I have a feeling Disney may do the same for Sleeping Beauty, in order to appease the few 4:3 fans that are left in the world (and their kids).
DarthPrime wrote:I know the 2.55:1 ratio will be very unpopular with a lot of people on their older SDTVs.
It'll also be unpopular with those of us expecting the 2.25:1 Technirama negative! (Of course, I'd be just as satisfied with the 2.20:1 70mm print)

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DarthPrime wrote:However will the Platinum DVD also include a pan and scan 1.33:1 version too like the previous SE?
Given the fact that Lady and the Tramp got one (though they got the wrong one), I have a feeling Disney may do the same for Sleeping Beauty, in order to appease the few 4:3 fans that are left in the world (and their kids).
DarthPrime wrote:I know the 2.55:1 ratio will be very unpopular with a lot of people on their older SDTVs.
It'll also be unpopular with those of us expecting the 2.25:1 Technirama negative! (Of course, I'd be just as satisfied with the 2.20:1 70mm print)

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I'm confused about the 2.25:1 ratio you mentioned. From what I understand, SB was animated and projected at 2.20:1 (70mm) and also projected at 2.35:1(35mm), giving it two intended aspect ratios. (Though I would only ever watch the 70mm version as there is more info to it)

So, is the 2.25:1 supposed to be the intended ratio? :?

And yeah, LatT should have had the Academy Version on it alongside the Cinemascope version, as it also had two intended aspect ratios. I'm content with the LatT PE, though, as I would only watch the one with the most information, in this case the Cinemascope version. But it would have been nice to have if only for a one time watch and comparison to the other.
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