The Little Mermaid on Broadway

[Marky_198]

The Disney Princesses arn't gay,you know what? you really sounds like a troll ("every guy who like Disney is gay"? whatever ,and as well about the Princesses) so whatever

I dont know were you got any that you should read what i said better.

What do you mean? it's like gay people like the Princesses? if it does,then that nonsense,why? they don't like TinkerBell? or Mickey Mouse? or Winnie the Pooh? or Pirates Of the Caribbean? it's not that gay likes only the Princesses.

Gay people like all disney but the princesses they love the most i think gay people can relate more with with the princesses like Cinderella being verbaly being abused being treated differently from her step sissters Ariel wanting 2 be a part of a different world but she knows cant because her father will have anger towards her she is treated diff cuz who she is. in the movie when her dad found she loved eric he blew up on her. now how do you think when a guy is in love with another guy how do you think his father think of that hmm? this could explain why 1 of the reasons why cindy and ariel are the top princesses.

Look,they're not gay icon,everyone wants to ride a magic carpet,befriend animales,swim with fishes and blah,blah,blah.
Maybe gay like the idea of fall in love with a guy like the princess (altouhght it can be also straight guys with girls also) but it's icon for everyone.

Arielsprince i think you might just not like the idea of gay men fawning of the fab 6 or aka the disney princesses... >_>

You are so right! I agree.

[Siren]

I do agree, let's get back on track here and actually talk about the show instead of having another gay debate.

[Disney Duster]

In defense of The Little Merboy, I'm going to assume he is gay, and would not in any way use calling someone gay as an insult. It's just a fact that gay is often associated with boys liking things assumed to be liked by girls. Basically, don't be so harsh to him, he was just saying what he honestly thought. He didn't make an insult at all.

Anyway, the Disney Villains such as Ursula, Cruella DeVil, and even the Evil Queen are gay icons not because of their draggish qualities. For some reason they look like drag queens, or in the the Queen's case, she's just a fabulous queen. But when people saw Ursula's wig for the Broadway show in that Perez Hilton photograph, they said drag queens all over the world would adore it clamour for one themselves.

By the way, I always wondered if the people who voiced and inspired the villains would get offended that they are likened to drag queens. If I were Pat Carrol, I don't know how I would feel...though she did play a man in a Shakespeare play, so maybe she's perfectly fine with it.

[Billy Moon]

It would seem Pat Carrol's performance of Ursula was largely based on Howard Ashman's performance on the demo tracks and otherwise. It might explain some of the drag queen -like qualities in the character. Not that Howard was a drag queen, but he was male (and gay).

[tsom]

For anyonw who has seen the production, is "The Contest" actually a song? If so, who is involved, how long is it and how does it sound like? If it's not a song, then what is it? I was just curious because it's listed in the list of Musical Numbers for the show.

[rodis]

Not that Howard was a drag queen, but he was male (and gay).

I've always wondered about it. Wasn't he married though? Was he openly bi-sexual?

[Prudence]

Wooow. I don't care that much about The Little Mermaid, so I haven't been reading this thread before. Apparently, I've missed some very amusing drama.

[Ariel'sprince]

Wooow. I don't care that much about The Little Mermaid, so I haven't been reading this thread before. Apparently, I've missed some very amusing drama.

Actually Prudence-you didn't missed anything.
And is there any reason you never cared about Little Mermaid?.

[SpringHeelJack]

Not that Howard was a drag queen, but he was male (and gay).

I've always wondered about it. Wasn't he married though? Was he openly bi-sexual?

Um, he was never married. He had a partner.

[Prudence]

Wooow. I don't care that much about The Little Mermaid, so I haven't been reading this thread before. Apparently, I've missed some very amusing drama.

Actually Prudence-you didn't missed anything.
And is there any reason you never cared about Little Mermaid?.

I've not been on U.D. frequently because it's become something of a war zone between opinions in which everything and everyone is stereotyped. As for not caring about The Little Mermaid, I like the movie well enough, but I'm simply not crazy over it. It's just a matter of preference.

[Ariel'sprince]

Actually Prudence-you didn't missed anything.
And is there any reason you never cared about Little Mermaid?.

I've not been on U.D. frequently because it's become something of a war zone between opinions in which everything and everyone is stereotyped. As for not caring about The Little Mermaid, I like the movie well enough, but I'm simply not crazy over it. It's just a matter of preference.

Oh,i see your point.
Allright about The Little Mermaid.

[The Little Merboy]

In defense of The Little Merboy, I'm going to assume he is gay, and would not in any way use calling someone gay as an insult. It's just a fact that gay is often associated with boys liking things assumed to be liked by girls. Basically, don't be so harsh to him, he was just saying what he honestly thought. He didn't make an insult at all.

Thanks Disney Duster!

[ChrisLyne]

For anyonw who has seen the production, is "The Contest" actually a song? If so, who is involved, how long is it and how does it sound like? If it's not a song, then what is it? I was just curious because it's listed in the list of Musical Numbers for the show.

It's sort of a song.

Basically Grimsby gets a few opening lines then it's Princesses (Ariel's sisters I believe) singing about how good their voices are to the tune of Part of Your World.

Anyway I've been trying to keep up with news from around the net regarding TLM and here's what I've found so far;

Sierra didn't sing "Part of Your World" for Broadway on Broadway (rumor has it she lost her voice, but as far as I'm aware there's been no official comment). If the rumors are true I hope she's ok by Nov 3 as she really is Ariel and I would hate for her to not be in the role opening night.

The songs are back up on You Tube (nothing new though).

Reading the comments following the Denver review, Meg who reviewed the show went to see it again nearer the end of this run and highlights the following changes;

The ending has been re-done. Ursula now grows larger using tentacles over the stage (this supports what I was told by Alan Menken about the ending being WIP with missing set and tentacles) and Eric now brings his boat to the battle (I'm assuming this means he no longer swims down to the battle and this does seem to support the youtube comment from before the songs were taken down about an audience being told they were seeing an all new ending).

The lighting and sets are all better.

Ariel now does the short dance Eric taught her rather than tries to sing in The Contest. Jane told me she did that Saturday (3rd night) when we saw it again, I was embarassed to admit I didnt remember and only remembered her trying to sing on thr first night! Meg says it works much better in her comments, Jane agrees so I guess I should just agree as well

A comment on youtube suggests that Prince Eric's final line in If Only/Her Voice has been change! The original lyric was "but when she calls to me, I'll know it's her", he now sings "but if I find that voice, then I'll lose her". I wasn't sure about this at first, but thinking about it the change really suits the character at this point in the story where he's still trying to find his "mysterious voice" but is also falling for Ariel as a person.

Also can't remember the source but I have read in a few places that Disney have said there won't be many (if any) changes between the end of the Denver run and opening on Broadway.

That's about all I found. If anyone knows anything else then please post it (still checking amazon but still no sign of cast album! It had better be out by Christmas!).

[Disney Duster]

In defense of The Little Merboy, I'm going to assume he is gay, and would not in any way use calling someone gay as an insult. It's just a fact that gay is often associated with boys liking things assumed to be liked by girls. Basically, don't be so harsh to him, he was just saying what he honestly thought. He didn't make an insult at all.

Thanks Disney Duster!

Thanks for thanking me, Merboy, anytime!

ChrysLyne, thank you for all that new info! I'm glad Ursula get larger. Is it just that she stays the same size but her tentacles grow, or...? But personally. maybe it would be better if she didn't get humongous, so we still had room for set, the boat, and the other characters! But what I'm really wondering is: How did the set change? Did they get rid of the two structures at either end, what people call the "bongs"? It okay if you don't know 'cause you didn't get all the details.

[SpringHeelJack]

I like the way that ending is shaping up. If it's not possible to fix everything, at least they're dealing with some of the big problems. Kudos to them.

[Ariel'sprince]

Good thing they changed the ending,it's sounds cute that Ariel is dancing and also more fit (it shows Eric that she loves him and she'll do her best so she'll be with him,she can't sing so she dance).

[ChrisLyne]

From what I've read it sounds like the effect is done by tentacles on stage, Ursula herself does not grow. I'm not sure if the "bongs" as people call them are on stage or not. Being honest I can't remember for certain if they were on stage for this scene when I saw it, I don't think they were but I could be wrong.

My biggest question about the ending is still whether or not they're using the opening night version of the finale (with what I called "vows" in where Ariel and Eric say they'll be each other's land and sea) or the shorter (but still longer than film and demo) version they used on Saturday night. Can't find the answer to that. I did ask it in the comments of Meg's review over at TLM Broadway blog but my comment hasn't been put up yet.

[Disney Duster]

Hley everyone, I foundseds as news picture of Sherie Renes Scotts as Ursulases, and it's up-closes and betterses!:

The only thing I don't like is that the shell Ariel's voice goes into is seperate from the shell on her necklace. I understand the need for big props so the audience can see them and all that theatricality, but I would just make the shell on the necklace bigger, without dragging Sherie to the floor, of course.

[Ariel'sprince]

New photos from the Disney website:
Ariel:

Eric (bah,it's just Prince Charming from Cinderella with long hair and Grimsby is the Duke from Cinderella):

Triton:

Ursula (didn't liked at all):

and Ariel and Eric (that's Giselle's flower dress):

[The Little Merman]

Oh my God why does Eric have such long hair?!