The Tangled world known as Rapunzel part 4

[Sotiris]

@RodryCroft: Thank you so much for the image!!

[RodryCroft]

You're welcome!! If you find another image like that, let me know =)

[Mobje]

Thanks a lot RodryCroft!!

[Miss Jo]

Composer Alan Menken to Receive Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/peopl ... lk-of-Fame

Woo-hoo!! It's about time!!

[Marisol]

I found a Madam Alexander doll they are making of Disney's Rapunzel. I actually own one of their other Rapunzel dolls (they have made at least three other designs, each one is different).

This is the first I have seen them do of Disney's Rapunzel:
http://www.madamealexander.com/product/ ... _inch_Doll

[Disney's Divinity]

I saw the Tangled ad with Gothel last night. Donna Murphy's sure to be excellent. Love her already.

[DisneyDude2010]

has anyone noticed in the 'Grounded for Life' vid'
Rapunzel has a piece of her leg missing (when they say "you could get tangled up with..." look at her leg)

[Semaj]

I saw one TV ad where they're playing a remake of "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun". (ugh )

The same song was featured in a demo trailer that was leaked online last March.

[RodryCroft]

has anyone noticed in the 'Grounded for Life' vid'
Rapunzel has a piece of her leg missing (when they say "you could get tangled up with..." look at her leg)

I think she puts her foot behind he hair on the floor, the leg don't dissapear =) Look

[Marisol]

spoilers

Her hair gets cut in de end and it doesn't grow back. Like, really short.

I am very sad she has no chance of it growing back at all. Not that I would expect her to have super long hair, but it would be nice if she could grow it to a normal length of mid back or to her waist. Very short hair is not the style for her time period.

[Fairytales]

spoilers

Her hair gets cut in de end and it doesn't grow back. Like, really short.

I am very sad she has no chance of it growing back at all. Not that I would expect her to have super long hair, but it would be nice if she could grow it to a normal length of mid back or to her waist. Very short hair is not the style for her time period.

spoilers
Well, it does fit in the story ofcourse, but i'd like her to have midlenght hair as well. I just think short hair isn't princessy enough-not that i don't like short hair, but i just don't like it on disney princesses. I didn't like the movie Sinbad because the female lead had short hair... it just did not seem right.

[Babaloo]

I don't know if anyone has seen yet but they have the samples for all the songs now:

http://www.amazon.com/Tangled-digital-b ... _rhf_p_t_1

[Disney Duster]

I APOLOGIZE to the whole thread for going off-topic but I want to know what people were talking about since they brought it up.

Thanks skyler888 and janesjubilee, about Cinderella!

Maybe so. I just felt that the film, like Sleeping Beauty, wasn't completely focused on its star character. Cinderella, of all people should've had the most psychological weight from losing her real family, taking so much abuse from her step family, and being continually denied from pursuing her dreams.
The Fairy Godmother's appearance was a convenient response to the weakest part of her psyche, but she's never referred to before or after that breakdown, nor does the newfound knowledge that she has a Fairy Godmother really affect Cindy's behavior. (When a character like Pinocchio had a fairy enabler, the idea was at least kept consistent thru the presence of the "wishing star".)

This shouldn't mean that the subplots about Jacques, Gus, and Lucifer, and the King and Duke weren't necessary, if only to provide comedic balance, but we don't learn that much about Cinderella herself, except that she's highly protective of her mice friends, and that she's remarkably patient, collected, and dignified in her demeaning position. A case could've been made that being rich or privileged doesn't really make one "superior" to the other. That by right, Cinderella's resilience under such difficult circumstances compared to her stepsisters' impatience with very trivial things made Cindy a stronger person. Any such personality contrast was barely hinted in the "Sweet Nightingale" segment.

And YES, the Prince was under-developed. We never find out what he did for a living, he didn't have any involvement in the drive behind the ball (so the King can have grandkids), the search for the mystery girl he danced with was done for him, and assuming he's a grown man capable of his own decisions, it ultimately felt like he was programmed to "love" Cindy. He's so severely under-developed that he doesn't even have a name!

All I can say is maybe because Cinderella tries to be happy despite what happened to her, and we meet her a long time after her parents are gone and she's used to her new situation, and she's more focused on the happy future, you didn't feel the pschological weight. Maybe she should have talked about her dead parents more, I don't know, but one thing she tried to do was not let her stepfamily get to her.

Next, Cinderella may have known about her fairy godmother already. When she talks about her magic wand, Cinderella says, "Then you must be..." But we don't know what she was gonna say. After the ball, she looks up to the sky and thanks her fairy godmother. I always thought that, coupled with the sparkling fairy godmother's magic on the glass slipper, made it feel like her Fairy Godmother was watching over her and perhaps intervening.

I think we learn at least how Cinderella feels about lots of things, and that she particularly likes fashion (even making the mice clothes). I think Cinderella is supposed to be compared to her stepsisters without being obvious, I suppose the "Sing Nightingale" sequence is the most obvious one.

I will say you are about right on the Prince, except that the King was about to give up on the ball, and Prince Charming was giving his father looks that he didn't want to be there, until Cinderella showed up, and she was "the girl of his dreams" as the Duke says, and he decided to walk over to her, to get her, so he couldn't have been programmed or forced to love her.

Finally, I just want to know what you meant by "The Fairy Godmother's appearance was a convenient response to the weakest part of her psyche." I just want more elaboration, especially if you went to psyche class and used that in your assesment.

[Fairytales]

I don't know if anyone has seen yet but they have the samples for all the songs now:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004B4LC3K/thewholenewworld

THANKS!When will my life begin sounds awesome!!!!
And so does Waiting for the Lights!
But it sucks that they didn't include a singing part in that Tear song.

[DisneyDude2010]

holy shit i wasn't expecting the songs to be like that
i loveeee when will my life begin and mother knows best

[phan258]

Thank you!!! I hate to say 'I told you so,' but I think in this case ya'll can forgive me--Menken really pulled it off!

Doesn't it give you goosebumps when Gothel sings the Healing Incantation?? She's so sinister!

[Semaj]

Finally, I just want to know what you meant by "The Fairy Godmother's appearance was a convenient response to the weakest part of her psyche." I just want more elaboration, especially if you went to psyche class and used that in your assesment.

I can assure you that no psychology classes were involved in my more cerebral-than-usual reception towards a classic Disney feature.

The Fairy Godmother is more of a deus ex machina. The first we ever hear of her is the exact moment that Cinderella loses her cool. To the film's credit, they were doing what was based from the original story, and it does help that by leaving her with both slippers, her presence was still there long after she left.

Also, when I said the Prince (Prince Nameless ) was programmed to love Cinderella, I was referring to the "love at first sight" aspect. Other than his being at the ball in accordance to father's wishes, this probably ties into the complication behind the fact that Cinderella's glass slipper seemed to fit only ONE person in the entire kingdom, which the Duke pointed out earlier. I just feel that since they weren't following any particular tradition where so-and-so had to marry by a certain age, the ball should've been more about what the Prince wanted.

This is where I feel that the more recent princess features have improved upon their predecessors, where both the prince AND the princess need an ounce of personality and background in order for their inevitable romance to feel more genuine. Aladdin is a good example; maybe they played up the "love at first sight" bit when Al first saw Jasmine at the marketplace. But that could've been a passing crush if he didn't have to save her life in the next few minutes. In any case, both sides would have to do their own homework, instead of allowing everything to be spoonfed to them, in order to earn their romance.

[skyler888]

YESSS THE SONGS, I AM SO HAPPY! they sound great! can't wait to see them and hear the full things

[skyler888]

although, I do think I might enjoy the reprises of WWMLB more then the actual song

[Fairytales]

She sings about Flynn too, in Mother Knows Best Reprise!
I knew this music was gonna be good from the moment i heard Healing Incantation

Rapunzel knows best,
Rapunzel's so mature now
Such a clever grown up miss
Rapunzel knows best,
Fine, if you're so sure now
Go ahead and give him this
This is why he's here
Don't let him deceive you

That's what i could make out.. it sounds like a great scene, Rapunzel finally stepping up to her 'mother' now!