I Would Like to Know... (Who Here is Gay?)

[PeterPanfan]

I'm a little late, but congragulations, Julian! It must feel like a weight has been lifted, hah.

[SpringHeelJack]

I bet you say that to all the guys, Brendan.

Only the cute ones in tights.

[blackcauldron85]

It was murder to wear the vest in the summer, and coupled with those long wool socks...ugh, might as well stick your legs in an oven.

God, I miss that costume.

"It was woolish and cottony hell, but I miss it!" - I can picture you saying that...I just thought that what you wrote was funny.

As a straight girl, you'd think I'd avoid this thread, but I've read the last few pages...it's kind of interesting getting to peak inside!

And, congrats, Julian! I'm proud of you for taking that step!

[Isidour]

As a straight girl, you'd think I'd avoid this thread, but I've read the last few pages...it's kind of interesting getting to peak inside!

Told ya it's an interesting thread

[Ting Ting]

Congratulations, Julian!

It feels good, doesn't it?

[PeterPanfan]

Aww, Julian is getting all the attention, I almost forgot..

Congrats, PrincePhillipFan!!

We're the two PPFs, haha!

[Escapay]

It was murder to wear the vest in the summer, and coupled with those long wool socks...ugh, might as well stick your legs in an oven.

God, I miss that costume.

"It was woolish and cottony hell, but I miss it!" - I can picture you saying that...I just thought that what you wrote was funny.

The Liberty Square costume was my favorite, though I never wore it as often as I wanted. Mainly because I was mostly working either in Adventureland (clown pants, yay!) or as a stocker.

I remember once I forgot to bring a pair of socks to work (I'd wear sandals, and kept my work sneakers in my locker), but remembered I had a spare set of Liberty Square socks in my locker. So I had to put them on, pull them up to my knee, and sytematically fold them down over and over again until they were short-sock length! Later that day, when my shift ended, I surprised a few castmembers when I began pulling my socks...and they kept going and going! I think I was wearing a Fantasyland costume that day.

Also, one day I was scheduled to do the opening shift at Mansion Ice Cream/Ice Cream 11, then do stock for the rest of the day. So I just got a breaker uniform from costuming, expecting to wear it all day. But when another castmember called in sick, I was stuck at MIC/IC11 until it closed and so during my lunch break, I went to costuming and got a Liberty Square costume! Of course, once the wagon closed, I had to go back to my breaker uniform and stock (yeah...it was a long day). But still, I was able to wear the costume for 3 hours that day!

As a straight girl, you'd think I'd avoid this thread

Well it's not exactly a "Gays only, everyone else keep away!" thread. After all, quite a few non-gay/non-exclusively-gay posters like Isidour, me, the PPF's, and others crop in here from time to time.

Albert

[PrincePhillipFan]

SpringHeelJack wrote:

Only the cute ones in tights.

I've had to wear them so many times for any performance in the Renaissance club in high school, I think I began getting used to wearing them so often.

PeterPanFan wrote:

Congrats, PrincePhillipFan!!

We're the two PPFs, haha!

Thank you so much, PPF! I admit I still feel really embarrassed about how I came off in the beginning of this thread and sort of denied how I really felt, but I'm just really relieved to finally be able to openly say it.

I just feel so happy too that my girlfriend has been taking the news so well about it. I was so worried that she would be extremely upset once I had mentioned it to her. Although looking back on the crushes I had in high school, I would say I am leaning more towards the gay side of the fence in my likings and personality back then and still now. I think I'm mostly only really bi because of my love for her.

And Scaps, I had no idea that you once worked for WDW. I had a friend who worked at Epcot, and she said it was really fun, but lots of long hours for her.

[Escapay]

And Scaps, I had no idea that you once worked for WDW. I had a friend who worked at Epcot, and she said it was really fun, but lots of long hours for her.

Yeah, I'm one of probably a dozen members here that have worked for the Mouse House. Did two college programs and would have had a third under my belt if not for all the drama that occurred last summer (grrr...).

And your friend had long hours at EPCOT? That place is a cakewalk compared to working Magic Kingdom! They consider it a busy summer if they get as many as 30,000 guests throughout an entire day! Which is a slow off-season day for us!

(Of course, I'm just joshing her. All parks are different, and MK is just the busiest and most crowded all the time, so there's always that sense of superiority that MK castmembers have over other parks, even though we wished we worked the other parks.)

Albert

[Prudence]

I like coming back to the forum after some time and seeing how much has been added. This thread has been particularly interesting. Godspeed, Julian.

Of course you don't care for Cinderella like me. No one does. I'm aloooooone.

Say what?!

I prefer Cinderella's world over the worlds of the other princesses by FAR. That it is more of a "blue-collar" place is very, very attractive to me. (Am I calling a kingdom sexually attractive? I'm such a ridiculous screw.) Of course, I am a female who is capable of being attracted to other females, so it would make stereotypical sense that I'm not much of a huge fan of the "pretty" and less realistic princess worlds. Does that make sense? No, not a bit?

[Jules]

Oh my gosh ... I so need to quote and reply to a ton of stuff here.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Of course you don't care for Cinderella like me. No one does. I'm aloooooone.

Say what?!

Don't underestimate Pru's Cinderella loving powers Dusty. Who else would adore a secondary character from a much hated DTV film like her? (or me)

[Prudence]

Who else would adore a secondary character from a much hated DTV film like her? (or me)

Eh?

(My intellectually stimulatory typing; let me show you it. That last sentence was sarcasm, in case this wasn't obvious.)

[Flanger-Hanger]

Who else would adore a secondary character from a much hated DTV film like her? (or me)

Eh?

(My intellectually stimulatory typing; let me show you it. That last sentence was sarcasm, in case this wasn't obvious.)

I was just mentioning that I like Prudence too. I realized this after I typed the comment about you, and I guess it does look weird. If I offended you, I am sorry.

[Lazario]

Oh my gosh ... I so need to quote and reply to a ton of stuff here.

Do mine first.

[PrincePhillipFan]

Albie wrote

And your friend had long hours at EPCOT? That place is a cakewalk compared to working Magic Kingdom! They consider it a busy summer if they get as many as 30,000 guests throughout an entire day! Which is a slow off-season day for us!

(Of course, I'm just joshing her. All parks are different, and MK is just the busiest and most crowded all the time, so there's always that sense of superiority that MK castmembers have over other parks, even though we wished we worked the other parks.)

I've heard that MK is probably the busiest park to really work anywhere on property regardless of what position it is. My friend worked at the gift shop and stroller and wheelchair rental under Spaceship Earth for her college program. She said it was a nice job, but she would often the most ridiculous complaints about strollers sometimes from parents.

Btw, welcome back to the boards, Prudence! It's good to see you posting back here again after a while.

[Disney Duster]

But theatre's been around for centuries

Yes, invented by the Greeks who were known to be quite homosexual or bisexual.

I don't know why girls and gay boys tend to do more theater than striaght boys. Like I said, it could be because they are less afraid to embrace it because for whatever reason the straighties want to hide it. Yet, even in that it is still an indicator of who's gay and will make it safer for a gay boy to ask that dancing, singing boy out. People don't talk about they're sexuality all the time but you do see them doing what they love. I also wonder if in that girls are more expressive and showy, and in the same vein gay boys are flamboyant, it is very, well, theatrical. Expressing yourself, putting on a show for anyone who cares to see. This is no mere stereotype, though. It's scientific that men have a harder time expressing their feelings and we are all wired differently. Well, so I recall reading, and science does change.

Exceptions to rules aren't enough to stop me from thinking there's correlation between gay boys and those stereotypically gay things, especially when I myself feel like living proof.

pink used to be a color meant for baby boys (as red was a noble color for men)

Really? Red a noble color for men? Well, I have a little more info to add. Red is seen as an aggressive color, while blue is more subdued. Red is violent and in your face while blue is calm. You can't deny red sticks out and grabs attention more than blue. Hence a lighter shade of red for the rough and tumble warrior boy while a pretty, quieter light blue for the girl who will be seen only as pretty and not heard in a male dominated society. Ever notice how red the early Disney's princes are and how blue their princesses are? Then again, the red would also work with your "noble color" info. Where'd you learn that? I usually heard of purple as men's royal color, though I've seen a lot of royal red.

I would say I am leaning more towards the gay side of the fence in my likings and personality back then and still now.

Ah, how happy you have made me! Oh, I need to get to your E-mail! Will do soon!

[Escapay]

pink used to be a color meant for baby boys (as red was a noble color for men)

Really? Red a noble color for men? <snip> Then again, the red would also work with your "noble color" info. Where'd you learn that?

It came from the medieval period, where blood-red colors were used by royal families, knights, and other courageous men (like the legend of King Arthur, or Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe, etc.). Thus if a baby boy was in pink, it was meant to show/say that he'd grow up to become a fearless knight.

Also, it's been used within the Catholic Church in positive ways. Red is usually used when depicting/honoring Christian martyrs, and priests often wear red robes (or dress the altar in red) during specific feasts and seasons. Some of the more revential pictures of Jesus I've seen is him with white robes and a red wrap.

In addition, red was an honorable color during Roman times (it tied in with Ares/Mars, the god of war), and that connotation carried on throughout the centuries despite being connotated with various other things (such as your aforementioned aggression, as well as stuff like sin, guilt, courage, etc.) There also is The Red Badge of Courage and The Scarlet Letter for different connotations of red within literature.

Albert

[PrincePhillipFan]

Duster wrote:

Ah, how happy you have made me! Oh, I need to get to your E-mail! Will do soon!

Thanks! No rush though, whenever you get the chance.

I still feel a little embarrassed though about the way I acted in the beginning here, but I'm glad as I'm starting to think more about myself I'm coming to terms a lot more with being gay/bisexual. I think the majority of why I tried to keep it hidden so long was some of my family as I said, but mostly school as well. I knew I found some girls attractive, but a majority of my likings were for my other guy friends. I wanted to come out, but a lot of other kids in middle and high school had suspected already with the way of how I acted feminine sometimes, and started calling me gay like it was an insult or faggot. I think that's what lead me to just keep quiet and suppress it for all the years and think that it was wrong of me to feel that way. I don't think it was until this thread that I came over and realized that I finally had to be open about it and couldn't suppress it any longer.

Wow, sorry for that long explanation. Just felt like I needed to get that off my chest.

Anyway, about the pink/red and blue discussion, I noticed something interesting not too long ago. In Lady And The Tramp, they mention that Jim Dear and Darling have a baby boy, yet the entire nursery in the movie is completely in pink. Makes me wonder if the Disney animators put a lot of research when they were animating the film, since the colors of pink/red for boys and blue for girls was still existant at the turn of the century.

[Jules]

I want to join the discussion but don't know what to say.

Now I feel stupid.