Disney's "The Snow Queen" in 2013?

estefan · Post by **estefan** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:39 pm

Yeah, if the film is great, they could call it "The Adventures of Captain Fudge-sickle", for all I care.

Cheshire_Cat · Post by **Cheshire_Cat** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:43 pm

Okay, I am very much bothered by this supposed title change. I was bothered when they changed Rapunzel to Tangled, but generic one-word titles always tend to bother me. But Frozen??? That has to be the stupidest, most creatively-bereft title for a film I have ever heard! If they actually go through with this title, I will seriously consider sitting this one out. I'd be that angry. I'm really starting to despise contemporary pop culture.

RyGuy · Post by **RyGuy** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:44 pm

SWillie! wrote: but I'm guessing it will eventually be changed to something less generic.

Like Ice Bitch?

TsWade2 · Post by **TsWade2** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:49 pm

But, wasn't there another movie called Frozen or is the title not decided yet? Why can they just call it Snowflake? I mean, in the story of Snow Queen, Kay's eyes got splinters from snowflakes.

Alphapanchito · Post by **Alphapanchito** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:55 pm

TsWade2 wrote:But, wasn't there another movie called Frozen or is the title not decided yet? Why can they just call it Snowflake? I mean, in the story of Snow Queen, Kay's eyes got splinters from snowflakes.

Thats a REALLY good idea. Wow. So much better than what Disney managed to come up with. Snowflake would have -almost- everyone happy. Marketing gets their tacky one word title, and at least we get something central to the storyline in the title (besides it being cold.. and.. frozen.. i guess).

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:03 pm

TsWade2 wrote:But, wasn't there another movie called Frozen or is the title not decided yet? Why can they just call it Snowflake? I mean, in the story of Snow Queen, Kay's eyes got splinters from snowflakes.

'Snowflake' sounds too 'girly'; wouldn't drive boys to the theaters.

'Frozen' is more gender neutral.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:10 pm

SWillie! wrote:I don't think it will ever be called Snow Queen (you'd really have to be stupid to think it would get named that)

Why would that be stupid? Most of Disney's adaptations used the same name as the source?

Personally, I think "Frozen" is even worse than "Tangled" because at least "Tangled" supposedly describes Flynn's and Rapunzel's relationship. What does "Frozen" have to do with anything to do with TSQ other than the setting? I'm glad so many people could care less, but, personally, I think a film's title does matter. I really don't think there'll be anything endearing about a film called "Frozen" 50 years from now.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:12 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:Personally, I think "Frozen" is even worse than "Tangled" because at least "Tangled" supposedly describes Flynn's and Rapunzel's relationship. What does "Frozen" have to do with anything to do with TSQ other than the setting?

It describes the Snow Queen's "frozen" heart.

TsWade2 · Post by **TsWade2** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:22 pm

Sotiris wrote:
TsWade2 wrote:But, wasn't there another movie called Frozen or is the title not decided yet? Why can they just call it Snowflake? I mean, in the story of Snow Queen, Kay's eyes got splinters from snowflakes.
'Snowflake' sound too 'girly'; wouldn't drive boys to the theaters. 'Frozen' is more gender neutral.

Oh.....good point. Well, I hope the title Frozen isn't copyright infridgement since there was another movie called Frozen.

DisneyJedi · Post by **DisneyJedi** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:27 pm

But I don't want it to be titled 'Frozen'! I want it to stay as 'Snow Queen'!!!!!

Just because the title changed "helped" 'Tangled' doesn't mean that different titles should be Disney's answer for everything!!!

Elladorine · Post by **Elladorine** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:34 pm

Patrick wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:Yes, and Madonna will voice the Snow Queen.

I see what you did there.

Now I've got that song in my head.

TsWade2 wrote:Well, I hope the title Frozen isn't copyright infridgement since there was another movie called Frozen.

Didn't stop Tangled: http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=tangled . . . there's a ton of "Frozen" titles already as well.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:36 am

All these title changes are utterly idiotic; especially when they don't correspond with the atmosphere and the story of the actual film.

qindarka · Post by **qindarka** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:30 am

That actually makes quite a bit of sense.

In any case, we are getting worked up needlessly here. Nothing has actually been officially announced and there is no use talking about how much Disney sucks. Even if the title is true, as previously mentioned, it could easily change d before the film is released which will be a long time to come.

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:42 am

Sotiris wrote:
Disney's Divinity wrote:Personally, I think "Frozen" is even worse than "Tangled" because at least "Tangled" supposedly describes Flynn's and Rapunzel's relationship. What does "Frozen" have to do with anything to do with TSQ other than the setting?
It describes the Snow Queen's "frozen" heart.

Duh, even I got that. Frozen actually says a LOT more than Tangled. Tangled was about hair?... and their relationship? how exactly?

DisneyJedi wrote:But I don't want it to be titled 'Frozen'! I want it to stay as 'Snow Queen'!!!!!

You never disappoint.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:11 am

PatrickvD wrote:Frozen actually says a LOT more than Tangled. Tangled was about hair?... and their relationship? How exactly?

Ah! Let me give it a go. The word "tangled" works on a multiplicity of levels. Rapunzel's "tangled" hair becomes a metaphor for her "tangled" life as she was stolen from her true family. Rapunzel's emotions were "tangled" as she was divided between her desire to be free, her own fears, and the obligation she felt to obey her mother. Rapunzel's life got "tangled" up with Flynn's life when they went on a "tangled" adventure with many ups and downs. Through this "tangled" journey, they manged to get "un-tangled" as they both discovered themselves and where they belonged.

Is that good enough for you?

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:45 am

Sotiris wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:Frozen actually says a LOT more than Tangled. Tangled was about hair?... and their relationship? How exactly?
Ah! Let me give it a go. The word "tangled" works on a multiplicity of levels. Rapunzel's "tangled" hair becomes a metaphor for her "tangled" life as she was stolen from her true family. Rapunzel's emotions were "tangled" as she was divided between her desire to be free, her own fears, and the obligation she felt to obey her mother. Rapunzel's life got "tangled" up with Flynn's life when they went on a "tangled" adventure with many ups and downs. Through this "tangled" journey, they manged to get "un-tangled" as they both discovered themselves and where they belonged.

Is that good enough for you?

Yes that'll do thanks

Anyway, I like Frozen. A Lot.

It tells us something about the world they live in and it's a metaphor for the Snow Queen's frozen heart. It works for me, why is this such an apocalypse for some people?

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:47 am

Disney's Divinity wrote:
SWillie! wrote:I don't think it will ever be called Snow Queen (you'd really have to be stupid to think it would get named that)
Why would that be stupid? Most of Disney's adaptations used the same name as the source?

Pretend I'm a marketing employee at the studio.

"Rapunzel is too girly. Let's change the name so it's gender-neutral, and advertise this thing to be an action adventure so boys will come too. We'll see how that works."

(Tangled becomes the most successful Disney film in quite some time)

"See what a good decision that was?! I'm a genius. What's that? You guys are developing a story about the Snow Queen now? The hell you are... we're changing the name to something simple and generic. It worked with Tangled, and we're not about to fix something that's not broken."

I'm not saying that Snow Queen would be a stupid name.. I think that's what it should be called. But to actually think that it will get named that after the events and success of Tangled is simply wishful thinking.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:41 am

Sotiris wrote: It describes the Snow Queen's "frozen" heart.

PatrickyD wrote:It works for me, why is this such an apocalypse for some people?

"Apocalypse" is overexaggerating--except maybe for DJ--it's just the title's stupid. But I’m glad you like it.

Linden · Post by **Linden** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:02 pm

"Frozen"? Ewwwww. It doesn't sound endearing at all or even interesting. I wasn't happy with the name change for Tangled, but at least that one grew on me. I have a feeling that "Frozen" won't. It should be something with "ice" or "snow" or even "frost" in the title. Ooo, they should name it "Icy" and have a tie-in Icee flavor!

rs_milo_whatever · Post by **rs_milo_whatever** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:37 pm

rs_milo_whatever wrote:I just hope they don't go "Hmm they loved Tangled; must have been because it was CGI... yeah, I'm sure of it, audiences today are so stupid they can only ever love a CGI movie. The Ice Queen will now be a CGI movie called 'Chills'"

I totally called it! Almost. But this is what I said last year when Tangled was a success.

It could have any name, but I (at the risk of sounding stubborn) really wanted 2D! Tangled was very good, but the humor in it was a little too young. I really want old-school again.

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