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farerb wrote:Exclusive: New Story Details for ‘Disenchanted’; Seven Dwarfs Will Appear
https://thedisinsider.com/2021/04/23/ex ... ll-appear/
Thanks for posting! It's great to finally know some details about the story. The plot sounds interesting to me so far. But how is the actress who played Morgan too old for the role? She has aged just like everyone else from the first movie. Are Giselle, Robert, etc. supposed to be younger than the actors who play them this time around? I'm also surprised that the seven dwarfs from Snow White will appear. In the first film there weren't characters from other fairytales, right? Or were them?
Disney's Divinity wrote:Hmm. :? Does all of Andalasia get ejected into the real world or something? Or perhaps cursed into being "real" in their own world... If the latter, perhaps Giselle would return there at the end?
It seems you weren't too far off. Judging by the new details revealed by TheDisinsider and this article I found about the village they're going to shoot in, it seems Giselle and her family will move to a village in upstate New York that will turn into a fairytale-like place due a spell. Here are some excerpts from the last article:
A massive town hall is currently being constructed on one side of the village, and other shops, and businesses will be getting a movie makeover before the cameras start to roll.

“There’s going to be planting, and they will be covering all the buildings with flowers. For the movie we’re going to be a bakery, the Objects shop next door is going to be a coffee shop, and the hardware store is going to be a butchers.

“It will be set in upstate New York, as to what decade I don’t know, and it will be filmed before it gets Disney-fied and after it gets Disney-fied.”

“I hear the roads and paths will be painted purple, and there will be 200 dancers too. I think it’s the biggest movie they’ve ever made in Ireland so it will be brilliant,” he added.

“There’s a lot of excitement around the town. A lot of work going on, it will be good. The plan is the whole village will be made into a Disney wonderland. I’ve heard there will be a night-shoot and two day-shoots and the village will be closed partly for those,” he told Independent.ie.
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I'm glad the town's excited. I bet it would be fun to have that kind of film being made in your neighborhood.
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D82 wrote:I'm also surprised that the seven dwarfs from Snow White will appear. In the first film there weren't characters from other fairytales, right? Or were them?
Unless you consider Rapunzel in "That's How You Know," and it's not Tangled's Punzie, of course, then nope. I like that Enchanted is its own fairy tale-type film...I personally feel like, why try to Once Upon a Time it by mishmashing Disney films together. I'm still excited for more Enchanted since the original is one of my most-favorite films... No offense to those who are into OUaT and the remakes and all that; just my opinion!
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blackcauldron85 wrote: Unless you consider Rapunzel in "That's How You Know," and it's not Tangled's Punzie, of course, then nope. I like that Enchanted is its own fairy tale-type film...I personally feel like, why try to Once Upon a Time it by mishmashing Disney films together. I'm still excited for more Enchanted since the original is one of my most-favorite films... No offense to those who are into OUaT and the remakes and all that; just my opinion!
I agree with you completely, but I'm not surprised to hear about this since Disney nowadays likes to take the most advantage of their IP unlike in 2007. I wouldn't be surprised if we heard about more princess cameos in the future.
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blackcauldron85 wrote:Unless you consider Rapunzel in "That's How You Know," and it's not Tangled's Punzie, of course, then nope. I like that Enchanted is its own fairy tale-type film...I personally feel like, why try to Once Upon a Time it by mishmashing Disney films together. I'm still excited for more Enchanted since the original is one of my most-favorite films... No offense to those who are into OUaT and the remakes and all that; just my opinion!
Thanks for confirming. That's what I thought, but I wasn't completely sure. Yeah, I agree with you and Farerb. I'm not thrilled about the inclusion of the seven dwarfs either. I hope the DisInsider is mistaken and they're not the dwarfs from Snow White, but other ones. Just like the old hag or the dragon from the first film, who were reminiscent of past Disney fairytale characters, but weren't the same ones.
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D82 wrote:But how is the actress who played Morgan too old for the role? She has aged just like everyone else from the first movie.
Maybe the sequel will be set just a couple of years after the original instead of more than a decade later. You can mask the age of grownups with make-up and lighting, but you can't obviously do that with a kid. I'm not happy with the recasting, but if it's indeed set just a few years later, it's understandable.
D82 wrote:I'm also surprised that the seven dwarfs from Snow White will appear. In the first film there weren't characters from other fairytales, right?
There weren't, but Giselle mentioned Grumpy, so she either knew the dwarfs or had heard of them. I wouldn't mind if they made a brief appearance as a throwback to her comment in the original, but dedicating an entire musical number to them? That's too much. Giselle isn't Snow White.
D82 wrote:It seems you weren't too far off. Judging by the new details revealed by TheDisinsider and this article I found about the village they're going to shoot in, it seems Giselle and her family will move to a village in upstate New York that will turn into a fairytale-like place due a spell.
If Andalasia gets transported into the real world, does this mean there won't be any 2D animation this time around? :( I'm also concerned about the new villain. Is Malvina Monroe an Andalasian or a New Yorker? I hope it's the former, 'cause having a suburban resident as the film's main antagonist isn't very interesting.
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How old is Giselle supposed to be ? Even in the original. I mean, usually Disney princesses are teenagers but Amy Adams was about 32 when she shot the original. However, I highly doubt that Disney intended the character to be that "old".
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I completely agree with everythg Sotiris last said! What a smart guy!

Farerb and D82, thank you for those movie details! You guys were so smart.to find them and your opinions are smart, too! I love the movie details except I am worried about the villain. Maybe she will be a real life modern villain who turns fairy tale by some magic?
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Thanks for the compliment, Disney Duster! :) You're also very smart and I always find your comments interesting as well.
Sotiris wrote:Maybe the sequel will be set just a couple of years after the original instead of more than a decade later. You can mask the age of grownups with make-up and lighting, but you can't obviously do that with a kid. I'm not happy with the recasting, but if it's indeed set just a few years later, it's understandable.
That sounds likely. I don't mind the recasting that much, but I feel bad for the original actress.
Sotiris wrote:There weren't, but Giselle mentioned Grumpy, so she either knew the dwarfs or had heard of them. I wouldn't mind if they made a brief appearance as a throwback to her comment in the original, but dedicating an entire musical number to them? That's too much. Giselle isn't Snow White.
Oh, you're right! I didn't remember that. I agree, if it was just a brief appearance I wouldn't have a problem with it either, but not only will they have their own musical number, but the article says they'll also play a pivotal role in the movie.
Sotiris wrote:If Andalasia gets transported into the real world, does this mean there won't be any 2D animation this time around? :( I'm also concerned about the new villain. Is Malvina Monroe an Andalasian or a New Yorker? I hope it's the former, 'cause having a suburban resident as the film's main antagonist isn't very interesting.
The article says the Kingdom of Andalasia will be in danger too, so perhaps while the real-world village is turned into a fairy-tale land, the opposite will happen to Andalasia. If the village doesn't turn into an animated world when it transforms, Andalasia shouldn't turn into live-action either; just become more modern, but maybe they'll do that with Andalasia to save money and it'll only be animated a bit at the beginning and at the end. We'll see. I think there will be 2D animation in the movie, just less than in the original.

As for the villain, her name sounds like a witch name to me. And I think she'll be the one who tricks Giselle into making that wish, so I imagine she'll have magical powers. I wonder who they'll cast in that role.
Redadoodles wrote:How old is Giselle supposed to be ? Even in the original. I mean, usually Disney princesses are teenagers but Amy Adams was about 32 when she shot the original. However, I highly doubt that Disney intended the character to be that "old".
Yes, you're right. She was probably meant to be in her twenties in the first film. But if the characters are now supposed to be just two or three years older than in the first film, then there'll be a much bigger difference between the characters' and the actors' real age this time.
Redadoodles wrote:I wonder if the will keep the humour family friendly or if they will make it more adult. To be honest, I've always wanted to watch this scene of Giselle talking to two hookers. :D
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Is that from a deleted scene or is it just a set photo?
Maria_Potter wrote:I wonder if they will re-use any of the deleted songs from the original film... I've been dying to listen to the Edward/Nancy duet for years; it's weird that it hasn't shown up anywhere, not even in one of Alan Menken's concerts!
That hadn't occurred to me, maybe they could do that.
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Disney Duster wrote:Maybe she will be a real life modern villain who turns fairy tale by some magic?
I think that's what will probably happen. She'll be a real-life person turned into a fairytale villain because of Giselle's wish. Honestly, I don't really like that scenario either. I'd prefer if she were a fairytale character from the start who disguised herself as a New Yorker and tracked down Giselle to put her evil plan into motion.
D82 wrote:The article says the Kingdom of Andalasia will be in danger too, so perhaps while the real-world village is turned into a fairy-tale land, the opposite will happen to Andalasia. If the village doesn't turn into an animated world when it transforms, Andalasia shouldn't turn into live-action either; just become more modern.
That makes sense. I'll be weird to see Andalasia all modern and technologically advanced.
D82 wrote:As for the villain, her name sounds like a witch name to me. And I think she'll be the one who tricks Giselle into making that wish, so I imagine she'll have magical powers.
I hope that's the case. I would like it if she had a connection to Narissa too. Maybe she can be a relative of hers or a rival or someone who got screwed over by her in the past.
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Sotiris wrote:There weren't, but Giselle mentioned Grumpy, so she either knew the dwarfs or had heard of them. I wouldn't mind if they made a brief appearance as a throwback to her comment in the original, but dedicating an entire musical number to them? That's too much. Giselle isn't Snow White.
Oh yeah, you are right- how'd I forget that?! I'm more okay with a small insider Easter egg/joke like that than transporting the dwarfs into this new film... I'm fine with them being in a Roger Rabbit-type film, as a cameo, but I'm just not personally into having beloved animation turned into live-action...Disney Cinematic Universe. Will these be the same actors from the upcoming Snow White remake? If not, #confusing

Getting off my soapbox! There's more I can say, but I'm sure I've previously shared my thoughts on remakes and such.
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They should cast Kathryn Hann as the villain...period...she would be perfect.

I’m not sure how they would cover the age gap. I mean, Patrick Dempsey is now a middle aged, grey man...
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D82 wrote:
Redadoodles wrote:I wonder if the will keep the humour family friendly or if they will make it more adult. To be honest, I've always wanted to watch this scene of Giselle talking to two hookers. :D
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Is that from a deleted scene or is it just a set photo?
A deleted scene. You can see the girls when Giselle crosses the street to sit with the homeless man.
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Sotiris wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:Maybe she will be a real life modern villain who turns fairy tale by some magic?
I think that's what will probably happen. She'll be a real-life person turned into a fairytale villain because of Giselle's wish. Honestly, I don't really like that scenario either. I'd prefer if she were a fairytale character from the start who disguised herself as a New Yorker and tracked down Giselle to put her evil plan into motion.
I think I like your idea more, too, but as long as she gets turned into a witch-type villain I would be satisfied. A witch is a witch! I mean, for me at least. ;)
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Sotiris wrote:I think that's what will probably happen. She'll be a real-life person turned into a fairytale villain because of Giselle's wish. Honestly, I don't really like that scenario either. I'd prefer if she were a fairytale character from the start who disguised herself as a New Yorker and tracked down Giselle to put her evil plan into motion.
I didn't think of that possibility. I still think the second option you mentioned is more likely, though. I believe the villain will have a plan from the beginning and will be responsible for Giselle's wish backfiring.
Sotiris wrote:I hope that's the case. I would like it if she had a connection to Narissa too. Maybe she can be a relative of hers or a rival or someone who got screwed over by her in the past.
I hope she's not a relative of Narissa because that has been done too much in sequels, but it could be interesting if she had some other connection to her.
Toky wrote:They should cast Kathryn Hann as the villain...period...she would be perfect.
Oh, she would be a very good choice! Although, (spoilers about WandaVision) maybe it would be too similar to her character in that show.
Toky wrote:I’m not sure how they would cover the age gap. I mean, Patrick Dempsey is now a middle aged, grey man...
Yeah, Patrick Dempsey is the one who has changed the most. But maybe the difference between the time that has passed in the film and the time that has passed in real life won't be so big. The actress who played Morgan is 22 now. Perhaps they want the character to be an adolescent now and she'll be around 15 or 16.
Redadoodles wrote:A deleted scene. You can see the girls when Giselle crosses the street to sit with the homeless man.
Oh, OK. It's been a long time since I last watched the film's bonus features, so I don't remember that particular deleted scene. I didn't know these girls appear in the final film.
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If she's a real person transformed into a fairy tale-esque villain, the name makes sense. You have "mal" (bad) in the name, for example, and something about the sound of it sounds like Cruella de Vil--the closest thing to a "real world witch" from the Disney canon since it was set in the modern world. The name strikes me as someone rich and spoiled just like Cruella.
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OMG I'm loving all this new info! :D the only thing I'm not liking, besides fact we still have no confirmation about having any 2d segments, is that they might shoehorn Disney's version of fairy tale characters into the film. I liked the cute nods like the voice actresses and Giselle mentioning Grumpy, but having the actual Disney Snow White or Cinderella or Rapunzel walking around would be too much like WIR2. But I'm worried that with the Wrecked Princesses being so popular they will try to do something similar here.
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D82 wrote: Oh, OK. It's been a long time since I last watched the film's bonus features, so I don't remember that particular deleted scene. I didn't know these girls appear in the final film.
The scene was never released anywhere. It was cut for ratings reason. :)
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The DisInsider has also posted a video where they share a couple more details about the plot that weren't mentioned in the article (in blod below) and have revealed Morgan will be a teenager in the movie:
The film will see Giselle, Robert and Morgan moving to a new house in the suburbs. This suburb is overseen by Malvina Monroe, who is expected to be the main villain of the film. After they move, problems begin to arise (some family dynamics, some problems at work and school), so Giselle makes a wish on a magic wishing wand to transform their lives into a perfect fairy tale. However, the spell backfires dramatically and puts Giselle in a rush against the clock to save both her family and the kingdom of Andalasia before the clock strikes midnight.

Morgan will also be returning, but she'll be played by a new actress because they're having Morgan's character be a teenager, probably around 15 or 16, and the original actress is now too old to play the character.
Redadoodles wrote:The scene was never released anywhere. It was cut for ratings reason. :)
Oh, OK. That makes more sense.
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She made a wish on a wand? :? That doesn't make sense. You perform magic with a wand, you don't wish on them. They could have used so many alternatives like a magic wishing well or an apple or a lamp or even a star. If they were dead set on using a wand, they could have had Giselle find one and start performing magic with it, but its magic backfired because she didn't know how to use it properly or because it didn't belong to her.
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