Mikey wrote:
Xxhplinkxx...really? I know Albert has a lot of prettiness going on.
I have to say, that's probably the first time my name and "prettiness" has ever been used in the same sentence! Either way, I'm rather flattered and you guys have succeeded in making a Filipino guy blush over the computer (and given that we're naturally tanned, that's no easy feat!).
Mikey wrote:I guess I had it wrong
Not really wrong, just misunderstood because I often muck up explanations and have to keep rewording them to get them right. But the ice cream comparison is best and one that I stick to (it was partially inspired by Andrew's explanation in an episode of "Desperate Housewives" and partly because I like ice cream). The fact that you understood it after me trying to figure out the right way to say it several times over says something!
As for the "gayer and gayer" bit...whaaaat
Hmm...must've been my remarks about how people's eyes can be hauntingly beautiful.
Mikey wrote:but you can't deny there's a link between theater, pink, diva's, and being gay..
But theatre's been around for centuries, pink used to be a color meant for baby boys (as red was a noble color for men), and divas are forever...no wait, that's diamonds. It's really only recently (like the past 50 years or so, maybe less) that those kind of "indicators" became predominant in the stereotypical expectations of a gay person. In 100 years will we be saying that football, farts, and power tools are indicators that a guy is straight?
However, I also agree with Prince Ali and Isidour that there are no indicators. Interests don't define who you are, nor are they indicators/generalizations towards types of people (be it orientation or just different types). I like Star Trek, Doctor Who, and a lot of sci-fi stuff but am I a socially-withdrawn nerd with glasses, pocket protectors, and a high IQ? Hardly. There's many different types of people out there with many more interests, that saying Things R, S, and T make someone an I, J, or K is unfair to people like N, M, and O who like R, S, or T as well.
Mikey wrote:Just a note, liking fairy tales, princesses, dancing, singing, theater, female singers, pink, are not gay in an of themselves, anyone cna like them and should like them, it's just that they do have relation to being gay. But they aren't gay in and of themselves and it's not gay to like them...it's hard for me to explain this without making truly straight theater lovers feel weird.
Think of it like
The Rocky Horror Picture Show. It's one of the biggest cult films out there, but not everyone that likes it has to be a cult film lover. Or, likewise, it doesn't mean that peole who don't like it aren't cult film lovers. I enjoy it enough to have it in my collection, but it's one of only a few "cult films" in my varied DVD collection. One of my friends from Camden has a HUGE collection of B-films and cult classics, but doesn't care at all for
Rocky Horror.
Jules wrote:I feel selfish for changing the subject suddenly without having read the entire thread (though I have followed it on and off).
Ah, don't worry about it, happens all the time. We took the "How many Disney DVDs do you own?" thread off-course for awhile, remember?
Jules wrote:I'm doing this in a state of frenzy. I can't take it anymore. <snip> I'm sick of holding it in.
If I didn't already know what you were saying, I'd think this was something related to constipation.
Jules wrote:I'M GAY!
Congratulations!
Jules wrote:but I think he will be mad when he finds out what I've done. He and his wife care insanely about me, even though they've got their own two children to take care of.
He'll be "mad" because he cares and he doesn't want to see you get hurt, be it by friends or just by ignorant people who wouldn't understand
Spring, Brendan! Heel, Brendan! Ha, you though I was going to call you Jack, Brendan! wrote:Who the hell ISN'T gay now? Sheesh.
I'd raise my hand but then I'd put it down to eat ice cream, then raise it up again anyway.
Mikey wrote:PhillipFan, hmmm...maybe I'll call you Phan? Maybe that sounds weird.
Off-topic but I've got a cousin (well, cousin-in-law) whose last name (at least before she gets married to my cousin in May) is Phan.
Maybe you can call him PrinPhil? Nah, that's even weirder.
Or something totally unrelated, like Howard. No wait, now Howard sounds cool. Okay, I call dibs on using "Howard" when addressing PrincePhillipFan. Sorry Mike, you'll have to use something else!
Laz wrote:Are you trying to say you see no gay appeal to any of Disney's films?
I think Wire Hanger is saying that Disney has universal appeal, and cited films whose content would debunk the odd theory that certain Disney films have a huge gay appeal. After all, there are no songs, dances, or Princesses in
The Black Hole. And I doubt Disney had a gay audience in mind when they shot
Night Crossing.
WilbyDaniels wrote:This topic does NOT belong on a disney forum. There are other sites for this type of discussion. I really take offense to reading this material on this Forum. Find other links to discuss this matter.
So don't read it.
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:It's an downright insult to say Disney's majority appeal are homesexuals.
Insult is a strong word. If I were to reword it, I'd probably say it's a huge misconception to assume that the majority of Disney fans are gay. I could say "The majority of Disney fans like cheese" and throw several reasons out there, and there likely will be someone who'd agree with it simply because I'd twist things around to support my argument.
Justin wrote:That, and most of the gay members here seem to be only fans of the princess movies. That certainly is not enough to be called a "fan".
I don't think it's that they're a fan of only princess movies (be it like...7 or more). But just that that's what is the preferred discussion among the vocal majority of UD's gay members. I don't mind it (that's what the "ignore this thread" concept is for), and I know that I'll post in threads that interest me, and likewise, will get replies from people interested in that thread. I used to read every thread, just out of common courtesy, but hardly have the time anymore, so I've restricted myself to just those that I know I can say something in, or are posted in by members that I enjoy reading.
I for one would prefer talking about
The Rocketeer, but no one else does, so I don't bother. And anyway, what more can be said about
The Rocketeer beyond being one of the most awesome Disney films out there?
Plus, we could use that argument (that there's a whole world of Disney to talk about, but the vocal majority will only focus on one or two things) towards Disney DVDs. A few of us would like to talk about materials in the bonus features, like what documentaries are good, what commentaries are worth listening to, etc. But nearly every Disney DVD thread shows more concern from members about stuff like "OMG, the cover is awesome/OMG, the cover sucks!", "Who's gonna be featured on the spine?", "What's this edition called?", and "Slipcover Slipcover Slipcover!"
Justin wrote:Now, claims are being made Disney indicates sexuality all because a few gay people have taken over the forum and only discuss the princess movies. Extremely sad.
I wouldn't call it sad, just that people read more into things that they either want to be there, or that they genuinely believe is there. For example, I doubt that when they were making
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs or
Cinderella that the animators intended for the princes to look as bland and as flamingly twinkish as possible for future generations to discuss in threads like these. Or that the storymen decided for Prince Phillip to be an action hero (ha!) that can be the object of affection for both sexes.
Justin wrote:And for those asking, "why I bother posting", well, I am sorta pissed that this thread can get above 30 pages, while discussing say, the idea of Disney making a Lone Ranger movie(a topic with more merit and more worthy of attention on this forum) can't even get 2 posts.
Justin, this thread's been around for awhile, while the Lone Ranger one has only been up for a day or two. Plus, if you read all 30+ pages, you'll see that much of the discussion takes place over a few days, then it gets ignored for awhile, then revived again, and ignored again, etc. This isn't a thread that's always on Page One every day like a sticky or like "The New DVD Thread: Edition 5938 - The DVDs Take Over The World".
Wire Hanger wrote:As for mentioning only 7 Disney movies, I feel that that in itself is a generalization, I know I enjoy way more than 7 Disney movies
Ironically, there probably is only 7 Disney movies that I'd really enjoy and would talk about extensively. And only one is a "princess" film while the other 6 are a hodgepodge of everything else Disney has to offer.
Wire Hanger wrote:Why do you think "Gay Days" at WDW and DLR are so popular?
Because group rates are a lifesaver when booking hotels, and those are the best weekends to get a free t-shirt!
Albert
He seems to have had long hair too, but I like him better with it shaved.
). I do hope you post more, especially in the General Discussion. 
