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No idea how we missed this (Idina Menzel posted this on February 9th, 2023):
Well, now they know! Time to let it go again, people! #disneyfrozen #frozen3
Source: https://twitter.com/idinamenzel/status/ ... 2940916739

Nice allusion to the lyrics of Let it Go.

And by the way, if they keep milking Frozen songs out of the Lopezes forever, Iโ€™m totally fine with that. 8) :P
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YOUR ideal Frozen 3 (expecatations, concepts,ideas etc)

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As we all know, Frozen 3 was recently announced and I thought it would be really interesting if we all gathered our different expectations, ideas and concepts on how the third installment could go on.
(Although Frozen 2 was very disappointing) I am very curious how it could continue, because of all the announced sequels I personally think Frozen 3 has the greatest potential.

We have ENDLESS of possibilities of how to expand it, since nothing has been announced yet about the rough story or theme.Thats Exactly WHY I wanted to speculate it with you, because when the second one was announced, I had high expectations and Ideas, and after Frozen 2 came out, I was disappointed, but still cant imagine how the concept of the story would have gone differently, because the plot is already burned into my head after 4 years. :huh:
Even though Disney most likely will go into a whole other direction than we may think, its still nice to imagine "What could have been", right?

I would LOVE to read all your different Ideas, please participate (even if its just 1 word) :pink:
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I'm actually in the crowd that really liked Frozen II, possibly even better than the first. I liked that it countered the notion of animated princesses being two-dimensional figures by allowing its heroines to experience and process complex emotions, and all against the backdrop of vivid animation and a powerful songbook. So, I guess I want more of that.

If they were to finally give Anna and Kristoff a proper duet along the way, I'd be just fine with that.
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At this point I don't think I have much expectations from it, just that it will actually have a plot and won't waste my time with charades games.
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Yes, I want more duets this time. Kristoff and Anna, definitely, but also Anna and Elsa since Menzel's and Bell's voices together is always an eargasm. And I want a serious, threatening, magical villain for Elsa to fight against (which will allow her to show off her powers).
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My expectations for the third film are quite low, first because of how disappointed I was with the second, but also since like that one, this sequel has most likely been imposed on the filmmakers by Iger, and once again I don't know if they'll have time to come up with a good story. I agree it could have potential, though, if it was done well.

As for how I would like it to be, I would prefer the tone was more like the first film's and it would feel more like a fairytale. Maybe they could take some elements from Hans Christian Andersen's story they didn't use in the first one. I also agree with Disney's Divinity it would be cool if Elsa could use her powers more.
Farerb wrote: โ†‘Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:50 am At this point I don't think I have much expectations from it, just that it will actually have a plot and won't waste my time with charades games.
Yeah, that's the most important thing. I hope the plot makes sense this time.
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So, what I expect or hope is, in regards to Elsa,as she learned to love herself with her powers and be proud of them, the most emotional step or next biggest burden would be if someone were to steal the magic powers of all the elements (including Elsa's powers) to take over or something (could work, I mean if you can give Elsa powers, you can also take them away :P ). This would lead to a new side of Elsa being revealed, where she has to come along without powers for the first time, and thus the important desperate situation of whether Elsa, now that she has been giving the opportunity to be like a normal person, and this then-impossible desire to fully belong in society and not have to feel different, while having to wonder what makes her special as a person without her powers.

Therefore, I would like Anna to be in a hardcore 100% Queen boss mode and this time it is her turn to protect and fight for her sister (instead of Anna having to chase after her for 2 movies) and make it her goal as Queen to challenge the evil king or boss who stole the powers and make it her goal with her Arendellian and Northuldra army to return the powers to their rightful owners (including Elsa), while not allowing Elsa to join the war/fight for her saftey.

It would also be good because Anna and Elsa's roles would be reversed, since Anna is aware that Elsa is now the helpless one who needs to be protected and the one who stays behind and gets shut out of Anna (to protect her), who is in action mode.

Maybe you could turn Hans or one of his brothers as the big villain who gathers the forces (which I would VERY much like, since the worldbuilding would thus be expanded and we could FINALLY see the Southern Isles for once). Hans would realize how wrong this is, apologize to Anna and Elsa, try to regain their trust, team up with Anna and face his brothers in the climax and somehow have a character arc.

Regarding character arcs, you could reuse Kristoff's ACTUAL story arc from frozen 2 since Kristoff is now engaged to the QUEEN of Arendelle and therefore all eyes are on him as well and he feels uncomfortable in his position, hiding his feelings from Anna.

Since Anna leads an army in my head canon, she'll wear a cool knight-like outfit (like in Mirrorverse, only something that screams more queen or leader.) And Olaf in a mini knight armor would be fun, though that might not make sense since he theoretically wouldn't exist when Elsa loses her powers, but that's not my problem but Disney's. :thumb:

(I really hope that Kristoff will have a reason to exist this time (not like in the 2nd part)

And overall, I hope it will be WAY more darker and serious in tone, like I expected by the first teaser of 2

And another sequel Idea I thought, was,that the focus would be on Kristoff this time, as Elsa might see a vision of Kristoffs past in Atholholan or whatever its called, where then he sets on a journey with Anna, Elsa and the trolls to find his biological family, where he has to decide wheter he stays with Anna and his troll family in Arendelle or his biological one (of course he stays in Arendelle)

The last idea I had was based on this well-known theory that the trolls are evil and have manipulated Hans' memories. Elsa could discover this sequence in the ice cave and confront them. The trolls planned this from the beginning so that Kristoff could hook Anna and he would then become future king of Arendelle at Anna's side (and the trolls, as his family, would automatically gain power as well), which is why they advised Elsa to follow the voice in part 2. and there would then be an epic battle between the forest spirits and Elsa vs the trolls.
But of all I like the first idea the most.
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Interesting ideas, The Disneynerd. I especially like the one about exploring Kristoff's past. I wouldn't mind if Hans returned as the villain either, if they could find a good plot.
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D82 wrote: โ†‘Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:17 pm Interesting ideas, The Disneynerd. I especially like the one about exploring Kristoff's past. I wouldn't mind if Hans returned as the villain either, if they could find a good plot.
What do you think about a redemption for Hans?
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Farerb wrote: โ†‘Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:36 pm What do you think about a redemption for Hans?
Sorry, I forgot to answer you. I don't know, I believe in second chances, but Hans is pretty evil in the film. He tries to kill Elsa and leaves Anna to die as well. I don't know if they'd be able to turn him into a good guy in a believable way. I'd prefer he was still a villain. And I believe Jennifer Lee said something that made it clear she wasn't in favor of redeeming him either, so most likely it won't happen.
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Jennifer Lee Not Returning to Direct โ€˜Frozen 3โ€™
https://www.thewrap.com/frozen-3-jennif ... directing/
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It sounds that she won't be writing it either. Will Chris Buck be returning? Her saying that the sequel is being spearheaded by 'an incredible person', tells me it's someone new entirely and Chris won't be directing either.
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She constantly talked about how Frozen II completes Elsa's arc so I think she just doesn't know how to continue the story and decided to let others do it. She'll probably disregard it as not canonical like she did with Olaf's Frozen Adventure.
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It's difficult to imagine where a third movie can go. The kingdom was in peril and almost got destroyed twice, Olaf almost died twice, Elsa almost died too, Anna is now Queen. The stakes can't get raised any higher than that.

Maybe they'll show Anna getting married or having a baby? My guess is that something new will be threatening the kingdom and/or disrupting the spirit world, most likely a mysterious supernatural force, which will make the two sisters reunite in order to deal with it.
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A villainess with fire powers could have been interesting (better than Anna having powers). Of course that won't happen because it doesn't fit with that fifth spirit nonsense.
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"But Lee will remain involved in the making of the film in some unknown capacity"

Like ... being in charge of the studio making the film?????

Anyways, that's an interesting development. I really respect what Lee and Buck did with the first two films, but I think fresh blood could do a lot of good for number 3. I'm curious to see if it'll be a veteran Disney director or an animator getting their first crack at directing, or even someone from outside of the studio.
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Obviously sequels at the studio happen because the higher-ups see them as lucrative (just like with Toy Story, Zootopia, Inside Out, etc.). That's the whole reason they killed off hand-drawn animation back then, they saw long franchise potential in 3D films because of Dreamworks and PIXAR, much like how they view Marvel, Avatar, Star Wars, etc. as unending sequel-makers.

I don't think Lee was really interested in sequels and a lot of it felt like she was doing it for the executives' sake more than personal interest in further stories, so I'm not really surprised she decided to let somebody else take over the reins since Disney wants sequels since that gives them what they want while allowing her to do what she wants to do instead. She can just oversee and tell them if they go too far with one of the characters, otherwise not really need to be involved. I imagine the Lopezes wish they could get another original film already to work on, too.
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Farerb wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:23 pm She constantly talked about how Frozen II completes Elsa's arc so I think she just doesn't know how to continue the story and decided to let others do it. She'll probably disregard it as not canonical like she did with Olaf's Frozen Adventure.
Where did she say she viewed as non-canon?
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Stumbled upon this theory short a few hours ago and it literally STOLE my theory :x :x :x lol just kidding but so much parallels to what I was telling you a few months ago: New Kingdom thread, Evil Kingdom taking Elsas Powers, Hans or his brothers being revealed as the villains... I feel so special rn :P Disney u can hire me if you want pls pls
https://youtube.com/shorts/MDnnUVLGrDY? ... lWxkjhljLY
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1. When did you get hot? :mickana: (Sabrina Carpenter)*new
2.House Tour (๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹)*new
3. Tears (Sabri- Carpen-)*new
4. Sugar talking (...๐–ฒ๐–บ๐–ป๐—‹๐—‚๐—‡๐–บ ๐–ข๐–บ๐—‹๐—‰๐–พ๐—‡๐—๐–พ๐—‹!) *new
5. 9 to 5 (Dolly Parton)
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7. ๐–ง๐–บ๐—‹๐–ฝ ๐—๐—ˆ ๐—Œ๐–บ๐—’ ๐—‚๐—† ๐—Œ๐—ˆ๐—‹๐—‹๐—’ (๐–ข๐—๐—‚๐–ผ๐–บ๐—€๐—ˆ)
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Farerb wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:42 pm Jennifer Lee Not Returning to Direct โ€˜Frozen 3โ€™
https://www.thewrap.com/frozen-3-jennif ... directing/
Hmm, will it be as good as the first two if she's not involved?
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