Who Will Take Over for Lasseter at WDAS?

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Iwájú definitely looks intriguing--good call on her part! And I didn't know she was married to Alfred Molina. I support her bringing on more diverse talent behind-the-scenes--that's what will lead to the most change onscreen. After all, she is the first woman in charge and we only just now received a film dominated by female characters in Raya. I'm more confident in who she will pick since I loved Raya; the choice of Estrada definitely worked out at least.
Upon its release, Frozen became a juggernaut for Disney, earning the best animated feature Oscar, spawning a stage musical and an attraction at Epcot and making Lee the highest-grossing female director of all time until the release of Wonder Woman four years later.
Wow! I don't think I'd heard that until now. Good for her. And I didn't know she'd been involved on Zootopia to some degree. I wouldn't be surprised if her involvement had a lot to do with the best things about that film (notably Judy in a male-dominated career...just like Lee herself. :lol: ). Her talking about reading through scripts first thing in the morning sounds like a dream job for sure.
When she first wrote for Disney, Lee had wanted more time for iterating — thanks to her, writers now get four drafts before the storyboard stage, whereas before they had only one or two. “I know the part of the process I’m really good at,” Lee says. “I know the part [Lasseter’s] really good at. I know that those two have to go together, and my job is to make sure that we’re well rounded in all areas. I wasn’t trying to be John.”
That seems to contradict people's go-to criticism of her that I've seen on this forum. Not surprised, since I rarely agree with those takes that have claimed Raya, Frozen II, and Encanto are half-baked. I think all three films are some of the best CGI films that have been made. And thank God she never tried to be John Lasseter. The first one's micromanaging WDAS down to a nub was bad enough as it is, we didn't need a second one.

While I hate that the pandemic blocked Raya and Encanto from making the box office success both films deserve*, in a way I think this moment in time actually gave Lee an easier entrance into the leadership role, giving her more time to find her footing and get used to her new role, since almost everything's going to do bad during the pandemic anyway. And I think she's pulled off the job with aplomb going by their last three films as it is. And I'm really glad she's the one that will be in charge of all these series that have materialized to fill out the streaming service. Lasseter would have putrefied those.

Btw, Sotiris, who is deciding whether the films go to theaters or to streaming (WDAS going to theaters, PIXAR to streaming-only)? I assume someone other than Lee and Docter are making those decisions.

* They both would've easily hit the $600 million benchmark at least, if not more going by "We Don't Talk About Bruno"'s success. Although on that point we'll see how much Encanto's soundtrack has sold a year from now in comparison to Moana and Frozen. My guess would be more than Moana, but less than Frozen.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Btw, Sotiris, who is deciding whether the films go to theaters or to streaming (WDAS going to theaters, PIXAR to streaming-only)? I assume someone other than Lee and Docter are making those decisions.
That's right. The Disney Media & Entertainment Distribution division makes those decisions headed by Kareem Daniel.
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Sotiris wrote: It's the usual PR spin to justify the milking of these properties into the ground. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
M&C left the studio before she became president, didn't they? I'm pretty sure it happened before Lasseter left, because I remember hoping they might get another chance with him out of the way when he was ousted. They're obviously still interested in directing, since they're doing it elsewhere now. With Moana being #1 on streaming and with new management who aren't resentful of M&C (and Menken) because of pettiness over the '90s Renaissance, I do hope maybe she'll consider the idea of bringing them back for another film if fans keep pushing the idea online. :( That said, even as president, I doubt she has as much control as it sounds when it comes to some decisions; I definitely don't think she has the kind of power across the company that Lasseter was given. There could be someone up the chain who doesn't want M&C to return, much like I don't think she'd have the power to revive hand-drawn animation either. Someone above her would block that kind of decision.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:M&C left the studio before she became president, didn't they?
John Musker left before but Ron Clements left after.
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Does anyone know when and why did Jennifer Lee delete her twitter account? Now we won't get cool Frozen tidbits :(
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I imagine any public faces at Disney, but particularly figures in charge like her, are being mobbed by alt-right trolls and Russian bots on Twitter these days ever since Disney sided with LGBT over homophobia, so...
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Farerb wrote:Does anyone know when and why did Jennifer Lee delete her twitter account?
Weird. Her Instagram account is still up.

https://www.instagram.com/alittlejelee/
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I guess twitter becomes more a liability than an advantage. I imagine if more people leave that platform, there's not much a use for it anymore.
Personally I don't care for it, I'm only there for entertainment news.
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Jennifer Lee Discusses Her Career, Priorities & Leadership as a Real Disney Heroine
https://www.animationmagazine.net/anima ... y-heroine/
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I think Disney Duster would appreciate knowing Cinderella was the animated work that made the biggest impression on her. :wink:
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Sotiris wrote:
Farerb wrote:Does anyone know when and why did Jennifer Lee delete her twitter account?
Weird. Her Instagram account is still up.

https://www.instagram.com/alittlejelee/
I find instagram's base to be a bit less toxic in general, at least in my experience. Maybe because you have have post an image and cant just post a comment, it requires a bit more effort. the less effort required on twitter means its a breeding ground for more people looking to vent/troll.
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Disney animation on the hot seat
Speaking of Disney, if Pixar’s Pete Docter and Disney Animation Studios’ Jennifer Lee were in an animated movie, they’d probably be hyper-visualizing some unfamiliar feelings these days: fear and anxiety. After twin $200 million bombs in Lightyear and Strange World, I’m not quite ready to hit the panic button on Disney’s animation creative engines. But… the 2023 movies better work.

Pixar’s Elemental trailer has Inside Out vibes, and Wish, the Disney Animation movie for the holidays, is a traditional fairy tale musical, its sweet spot. But there’s a larger question of whether families actually want these movies in theaters, especially after Chapek trained everyone to expect them on streaming. The 2022 numbers are scary, and the holiday returns for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish aren’t great ($67 million domestic; $134 million worldwide)—and that movie’s actually good.

Another uncomfortable question for Disney: Why do these movies still cost so much? Most of Universal’s animated movies are half as expensive. I know, artistry. But Pixar and WDAS make their movies mostly in California, with high labor costs, while Universal’s Illumination, for example, outsources a lot of the work. It didn’t matter when Disney was a hit factory. Now?
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Farerb wrote:Does anyone know when and why did Jennifer Lee delete her twitter account?
Byron Howard has deleted his Twitter account as well.

https://twitter.com/ByronPHoward/
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Farerb wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:35 am
Disney animation on the hot seat
Speaking of Disney, if Pixar’s Pete Docter and Disney Animation Studios’ Jennifer Lee were in an animated movie, they’d probably be hyper-visualizing some unfamiliar feelings these days: fear and anxiety. After twin $200 million bombs in Lightyear and Strange World, I’m not quite ready to hit the panic button on Disney’s animation creative engines. But… the 2023 movies better work.

Pixar’s Elemental trailer has Inside Out vibes, and Wish, the Disney Animation movie for the holidays, is a traditional fairy tale musical, its sweet spot. But there’s a larger question of whether families actually want these movies in theaters, especially after Chapek trained everyone to expect them on streaming. The 2022 numbers are scary, and the holiday returns for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish aren’t great ($67 million domestic; $134 million worldwide)—and that movie’s actually good.

Another uncomfortable question for Disney: Why do these movies still cost so much? Most of Universal’s animated movies are half as expensive. I know, artistry. But Pixar and WDAS make their movies mostly in California, with high labor costs, while Universal’s Illumination, for example, outsources a lot of the work. It didn’t matter when Disney was a hit factory. Now?
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https://puck.news/23-semi-surefire-holl ... -for-2023/
This article seems to forget that Minions: The Rise of Gru nearly made a billion worldwide.
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Sotiris wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:29 pm The WDAS Story Trust currently consists of:

Jennifer Lee
Chris Buck
Don Hall
Byron Howard
Jared Bush
Carlos López Estrada
Qui Nguyen
Dean Wellins
Trent Correy
Stella Meghie
Josie Trinidad
Marc E. Smith
Suzi Yoonessi
Nayna Agrawal
Elissa Matsueda
Laura Perez Cervera
Janet Lin
Jessica Julius

There are 9 men and 9 women in the trust now. Most of them had no background or experience in animation before joining the studio (and even their live-action experience was slight).
Is there an updated list? We know Carlos López Estrada isn't at the studio anymore and I don't believe Dean Wellins is there either, is he?

Out of the remaining, Chris Buck is the only one who was at Disney since the 80s. Byron Howard and Don Hall are the only ones who were there since the 90s (after Lion King).
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Yes, the Story Trust has been updated since then. It currently consists of 11 men and 10 women:

Jennifer Lee
Chris Buck
Jared Bush
Trent Correy
David G. Derrick Jr.
Everett Downing Jr.
Japheth Gordon
Don Hall
Byron Howard
Jessica Julius
Chelsea Marcantel
Elissa Matsueda
Stella Meghie
Allison Moore
Ziki Nelson
Qui Nguyen
Joyce Sherri
Marc E. Smith
Josie Trinidad
Fawn Veerasunthorn
Suzi Yoonessi
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More people I've never heard of.

We know that:
- Fawn Veerasunthorn will direct Wish along with Chris Buck.
- Stella Meghie will direct the Tiana series.
- David G. Derrick Jr. will direct the Moana series.
- Ziki Nelson is the co founder of Kugali.

I remember Trent Correy from the Frozen II documentary. I wonder if he's going to direct a film in the future.
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A little breakdown of the story trust members we don't know much about. There are a lot of diversity hires here who have little to no experience. :|

Trent Correy: animator at WDAS, directed Once Upon a Snowman, Zootopia+, Short Circuits' Drop, directing a new short for 2023 and an upcoming feature at WDAS
David G. Derrick Jr.: story artist at WDAS, directing Moana series
Everett Downing Jr.: creator of My Dad the Bounty Hunter series on Netflix, story artist on assorted Pixar, DreamWorks, Blue Sky, SPA films
Japheth Gordon: writer on obscure live-action series and shorts, no previous animation experience, writing feature at WDAS
Jessica Julius: Vice President of Creative Development at WDAS
Chelsea Marcantel: writer of obscure plays, no previous filmmaking experience
Elissa Matsueda: writer on obscure live-action films, no previous animation experience
Stella Meghie: writer on live-action films & series, directing Tiana series
Allison Moore: ???
Ziki Nelson: founder of Kugali, creator of Iwaju
Qui Nguyen: writer on Raya, Strange World
Joyce Sherri: director of obscure live-action shorts, no previous animation experience
Marc E. Smith: story artist at WDAS, directing upcoming feature at WDAS
Josie Trinidad: story artist at WDAS, directed Zootopia+, directing upcoming feature at WDAS
Fawn Veerasunthorn: story artist at WDAS, directing Wish
Suzi Yoonessi: directed live-action films, no previous animation experience, directing upcoming feature at WDAS
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Thank you for the breakdown.

So Trent Correy, Marc E. Smith, Josie Trinidad, Suzi Yoonessi are working on feature films, but since they usually have two directors directing one film, I'm guessing that it's two films and not four.

Since Trent Correy and Josie Trinidad worked on Zootopia+ together, I believe they're working on one feature, and then Marc E. Smith and Suzi Yoonessi are working on another feature.

WDAS future slate might be:
2023 - Wish.
2024 - Marc E. Smith and Suzi Yoonessi's film.
2025 - Trent Correy and Josie Trinidad's film.
2026 - Zootopia 2, directed by Byron Howard and Jared Bush.
2027 - Frozen III, directed by Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck.
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While I’m happy that Jennifer Lee is not placing herself front and center in the way Lasseter used to do I also feel she’s become somewhat invisible. Maybe this is intentional?
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