http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -pooh.html
It appears that the new "Winnie the Pooh" is going to be a collection of stories. That is, unless things change. It will actually use footage from the classic. Now, I don't know if this means that it'll keep the original opening or if it means that they'll be introducing new segments alongside old ones ala: "Fantasia 2000" or something in between. I'm curious to see what becomes of this film. I trust Lasseter though. If this was made by the previous Suits I'd be up in arms and very worried. But I'm sure some fans will be concerned by this and turn it into a very blustery day.
Oh bother...
Was this film just rushed into production to capitalize on TP&tF's traditional animation? Did Disney just figure that Pooh will make money no matter what?!?
Winnie the Pooh (2011)
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Here's what I speculate...blackcauldron85 wrote:http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -pooh.html
It appears that the new "Winnie the Pooh" is going to be a collection of stories. That is, unless things change. It will actually use footage from the classic. Now, I don't know if this means that it'll keep the original opening or if it means that they'll be introducing new segments alongside old ones ala: "Fantasia 2000" or something in between. I'm curious to see what becomes of this film. I trust Lasseter though. If this was made by the previous Suits I'd be up in arms and very worried. But I'm sure some fans will be concerned by this and turn it into a very blustery day.
Oh bother...
Was this film just rushed into production to capitalize on TP&tF's traditional animation? Did Disney just figure that Pooh will make money no matter what?!?
The film is likely going to pay tribute to the original Disney film by making it a bit of a package feature. Its likely the creators realized that Pooh has been re-imagined in so many ways, including the recent "My friends Tigger and Pooh" series that its likely that many children and new viewers haven't even seen the original stories done by Walt Disney. So the new film might have new segments as well as the most popular classic segments, such as the Blustery Day segment since it introduces both Tiggers and the Heffalumps.
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First of all, I have to say that I am ECSTATIC that this will be a collection of stories vs. a linear 90 minute feature. That is exactly what I was hoping this would be.
Second of all, I don't think this is being "rushed" at all. Rather, I have a feeling that they are splitting production up into three units that can work on the three segments (or however many there are) at the same time. Remember that the original film was just the three previously released short subjects packaged into a feature film with connecting animation. I have a feeling that they are making this one the same way, but not releasing the shorts prior to the feature. That way it doesn't need to take a long time to make, but we are still getting an all new movie. It would be weird for them to reuse segments from the first film because of the style of animation (Xerox process). Unless they are making this in a way that replicates that look and would look seamless. After all, this isn't like Fantasia 2000 where the original intention was to keep swapping out segments with new ones, so it doesn't really make sense to recycle one of the old shorts into the new film.
On the other hand, it would be neat if they put one of the old shorts in front of it.
Second of all, I don't think this is being "rushed" at all. Rather, I have a feeling that they are splitting production up into three units that can work on the three segments (or however many there are) at the same time. Remember that the original film was just the three previously released short subjects packaged into a feature film with connecting animation. I have a feeling that they are making this one the same way, but not releasing the shorts prior to the feature. That way it doesn't need to take a long time to make, but we are still getting an all new movie. It would be weird for them to reuse segments from the first film because of the style of animation (Xerox process). Unless they are making this in a way that replicates that look and would look seamless. After all, this isn't like Fantasia 2000 where the original intention was to keep swapping out segments with new ones, so it doesn't really make sense to recycle one of the old shorts into the new film.
On the other hand, it would be neat if they put one of the old shorts in front of it.
Fantastic news! As others have said, Pooh really does work best in small increments than in more lengthy fare. So this pretty much guarantees a narrator and interactions with the actual storybook pages (like Pooh jumping over the binding between two pages, letters falling off due to water, etc.). This also makes me more relieved about the production quality. I was initially worried because two years seems an awfully short time to create an animated feature. By breaking it into segments, they're able to assign different teams to each story and still have it ready for release like goofystitch suggested. If it's three stories again, we're talking roughly 25 minutes a piece, which two years sounds more than reasonable for if they're all being worked on simultaneously by different people.
I'm not really sure how they can reuse original portions of Many Adventures (even if it's just the live-action bookends) without it being jarring. Not only is the aspect ratio different, but if they're reusing the Christopher Robin's bedroom portions, those shots are going to need some EXTENSIVE cleaning. The Many Adventures transfer(s) were great, but the live portions were very grainy.
If they end up reusing an animated portion or two, image quality won't be as much of an issue since the transfers were very clean, but you still have the animation process discrepancy goofystitch mentioned. No matter how close you get, you can't make a CAPS film (or whatever that new digital coloring process they have is called) look like a 70s Xerox film. You can probably do an amazing resemblance, but if you put the two mediums directly side by side, it won't work. Heck, even the Human Again portion of Beauty and the Beast looks a little off in context, and that was done using the same process as the original.
This also makes me extremely curious as to what the stories are going to be. If Piglet's Big Movie had never been made, the unused stories from both or the original Pooh books could've been used in this new one. Maybe they'll look to Milne's poetry for inspiration? Either way, I'm very intrigued.
I'm not really sure how they can reuse original portions of Many Adventures (even if it's just the live-action bookends) without it being jarring. Not only is the aspect ratio different, but if they're reusing the Christopher Robin's bedroom portions, those shots are going to need some EXTENSIVE cleaning. The Many Adventures transfer(s) were great, but the live portions were very grainy.
If they end up reusing an animated portion or two, image quality won't be as much of an issue since the transfers were very clean, but you still have the animation process discrepancy goofystitch mentioned. No matter how close you get, you can't make a CAPS film (or whatever that new digital coloring process they have is called) look like a 70s Xerox film. You can probably do an amazing resemblance, but if you put the two mediums directly side by side, it won't work. Heck, even the Human Again portion of Beauty and the Beast looks a little off in context, and that was done using the same process as the original.
This also makes me extremely curious as to what the stories are going to be. If Piglet's Big Movie had never been made, the unused stories from both or the original Pooh books could've been used in this new one. Maybe they'll look to Milne's poetry for inspiration? Either way, I'm very intrigued.
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Disneykid wrote:
I just thought of something else. I know that The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh has already received a nice enough DVD treatment, but the fact that a new film is in production could mean an even better DVD release, possibly on Blu-Ray as well.
In regards to the aspect ratio, I thought that too originally. Then I remembered that the theatrical aspect ratio of The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was matted into widescreen depending on the movie theater that played it. Therefore, they could use the matted widescreen version if they were to reuse portions of it.I'm not really sure how they can reuse original portions of Many Adventures (even if it's just the live-action bookends) without it being jarring. Not only is the aspect ratio different, but if they're reusing the Christopher Robin's bedroom portions, those shots are going to need some EXTENSIVE cleaning. The Many Adventures transfer(s) were great, but the live portions were very grainy.
I just thought of something else. I know that The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh has already received a nice enough DVD treatment, but the fact that a new film is in production could mean an even better DVD release, possibly on Blu-Ray as well.
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Re: A New 2D Pooh Film Is Being Made!
Neal wrote:Coming in 2011 is... a new Pooh sequel.
Despite "Pooh's Heffalump Movie" and "The Tigger Movie" being released to theaters, they were meant to be direct-to-DVD.
I didn't think they were so awful.
This time around, John Lasseter will oversee the project! And it will not be animated overseas. The quality should be so much better!
Also, it is going to be traditionally animated!
I'm pumped. The Pooh franchise is my favorite Disney franchise!
The bear is Disney's second most popular character. Placing him in a new feature only makes sense!
Read on:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... fd4b84e284
This explains the random re-release of "Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie" and "Winnie the Pooh: Seasons of Giving" for this fall!
No word on if this is a DisneyToon project or a Walt Disney Animation Studios project. I hope for the latter.
Whoopity Doppity Doo
W-W-W-Wait a minute, John Lasseter. There may be some hope after all
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put this, but anyway... Winnie the Pooh movies will be re-released as Special Editions in France in September – check out these covers:
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin
The Tigger Movie – 10th Anniversary Edition
Piglet's Big Movie
Winnie the Pooh: Springtime with Roo
Pooh's Heffalump Movie
Simple but effective. I'm a sucker for this kind of uniformed look
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The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin
The Tigger Movie – 10th Anniversary Edition
Piglet's Big Movie
Winnie the Pooh: Springtime with Roo
Pooh's Heffalump Movie
Simple but effective. I'm a sucker for this kind of uniformed look
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I've always wanted a unified look to the DACs. That they all have the title at the exact same height and center, that the margins are all equal, and they devise a sort of 'fill in the blank' forumla.
Such as:
Spot A = Center = Hero
Spot B = Bottom Right = Three most important sidekicks
Spot C = Bottom left = most important location (Atlantica, a castle)
Spot D = Centered above hero = villain
That sort of thing, and follow it 'to the letter' for each cover so that in each cover the characters are placed the same way.
Such as:
Spot A = Center = Hero
Spot B = Bottom Right = Three most important sidekicks
Spot C = Bottom left = most important location (Atlantica, a castle)
Spot D = Centered above hero = villain
That sort of thing, and follow it 'to the letter' for each cover so that in each cover the characters are placed the same way.
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i like all of those covers, and that's mostly because I'm also a sucker for uniformity. It makes it feel like more of a collection.
I've allways dreamed that Disney would release Collector's Editions alongside every release. The regular release would be what we're used to, a somewhat simple single disc release with flashy cover art. The Collector's Editions would be a two disc set featuring the remastered film and at least a documentary. The cover art would be a black with the original theatrical poster centered and the name of the film re-written in the films font above the image in gold lettering. this is all similar to the King Kong SE that came out for the newer film version.
Anyway, to get back on topic.... is there any news on this lately?
I've allways dreamed that Disney would release Collector's Editions alongside every release. The regular release would be what we're used to, a somewhat simple single disc release with flashy cover art. The Collector's Editions would be a two disc set featuring the remastered film and at least a documentary. The cover art would be a black with the original theatrical poster centered and the name of the film re-written in the films font above the image in gold lettering. this is all similar to the King Kong SE that came out for the newer film version.
Anyway, to get back on topic.... is there any news on this lately?
WEDNESDAY, JULY 01, 2009
Since I've been negligent visiting studios this week (sometimes e-mail and phone calls change your plans), I made a larger than usual effort to get my rear portion out of the office chair and into the workplace this morning and afternoon ... starting with Disney Animation Studio.
The Princess and the Frog animators have pretty much wrapped work on the picture, but the cleanup folkss soldier on.:
"Almost all of the cleanup people are done the end of July. A few will stay on into August. There's a short to work on, and maybe something after that. But most of the crew will come back in eight or nine months for Winnie the Pooh..."
FRIDAY, JUNE 19, 2009
Over at the hat building, the Princess and the Frog cleanup crew is in the last couple of months of work. As a couple of crew-members said to me:
"We're hearing that management wants to keep us together, have us come back to work on Winnie the Pooh. That would be fine with us ... It wasn't easy when we got let go the last time, but this time has been better. We''ve got lower expectations about job security..."
Work continues apace on Beauty and the Beast - 3-D. Having only seen still frames of the new format, I've got no idea how it plays in three dimensions, but I was told it looks good.
I suppose the world will know how true this is when the refurbished tune is rolled out on Valentine's Day, 2010.
Source A
Source B
Since I've been negligent visiting studios this week (sometimes e-mail and phone calls change your plans), I made a larger than usual effort to get my rear portion out of the office chair and into the workplace this morning and afternoon ... starting with Disney Animation Studio.
The Princess and the Frog animators have pretty much wrapped work on the picture, but the cleanup folkss soldier on.:
"Almost all of the cleanup people are done the end of July. A few will stay on into August. There's a short to work on, and maybe something after that. But most of the crew will come back in eight or nine months for Winnie the Pooh..."
FRIDAY, JUNE 19, 2009
Over at the hat building, the Princess and the Frog cleanup crew is in the last couple of months of work. As a couple of crew-members said to me:
"We're hearing that management wants to keep us together, have us come back to work on Winnie the Pooh. That would be fine with us ... It wasn't easy when we got let go the last time, but this time has been better. We''ve got lower expectations about job security..."
Work continues apace on Beauty and the Beast - 3-D. Having only seen still frames of the new format, I've got no idea how it plays in three dimensions, but I was told it looks good.
I suppose the world will know how true this is when the refurbished tune is rolled out on Valentine's Day, 2010.
Source A
Source B
So I'm really excited for this and I love me those french covers, but..
Could someone (Neal perhaps? you seemed to know alot?) please outline the pooh continuity please. I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find anything on it on here or on the web. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks .
Could someone (Neal perhaps? you seemed to know alot?) please outline the pooh continuity please. I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find anything on it on here or on the web. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Pooh continuity is a little hard because, like Mickey and the gang, Disney's used Pooh in so many different mediums. I think for the most part, you can say the whole Pooh saga unfolds pretty much however you want, since the only real continuity that exists involves character introductions (and the opening scene of Pooh's Grand Adventure overlapping the ending scene of Many Adventures).
Pooh continuity hits a roadblock, though, in Piglet's Big Movie. There's a flashback sequence where we first see Kanga and Roo first move into the Hundred Acre Wood. This segment is actually based off of a chapter from the original books, but Disney made an alteration to it that muddles the timeline: they have Tigger as part of the gang when Kanga and Roo first appear (which wasn't the case in the book). This conflicts with the "Blustery Day" portion of Many Adventures where Tigger first introduces himself since by that point, Kanga and Roo have been living there for some time.
Characters disappear and and appear throughout Pooh canon, so that also makes finding a proper order kind of hard. Our own Loomis wrote an article for this site a couple of years ago that breaks down all of the Pooh shorts/films/specials/shows (up until the creation of My Friends Tigger and Pooh):
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/DIScussio ... 0Pooh.html
Basically, the world of Pooh is flexible enough for to be seen in whatever order you want, character introductions not withstanding. What I personally do or don't consider canon tends to vary depending on my mood, but the titular adventures (Many Adventures, Grand Adventure, New Adventures) are the ones I tend to value the most.
Pooh continuity hits a roadblock, though, in Piglet's Big Movie. There's a flashback sequence where we first see Kanga and Roo first move into the Hundred Acre Wood. This segment is actually based off of a chapter from the original books, but Disney made an alteration to it that muddles the timeline: they have Tigger as part of the gang when Kanga and Roo first appear (which wasn't the case in the book). This conflicts with the "Blustery Day" portion of Many Adventures where Tigger first introduces himself since by that point, Kanga and Roo have been living there for some time.
Characters disappear and and appear throughout Pooh canon, so that also makes finding a proper order kind of hard. Our own Loomis wrote an article for this site a couple of years ago that breaks down all of the Pooh shorts/films/specials/shows (up until the creation of My Friends Tigger and Pooh):
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/DIScussio ... 0Pooh.html
Basically, the world of Pooh is flexible enough for to be seen in whatever order you want, character introductions not withstanding. What I personally do or don't consider canon tends to vary depending on my mood, but the titular adventures (Many Adventures, Grand Adventure, New Adventures) are the ones I tend to value the most.
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Not much information, but some info on how the project came to be. I thought it was interesting.
Pooh Progression...
http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2009/ ... ssion.html
Pooh Progression...
http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2009/ ... ssion.html
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"We're doing a new Winnie the Pooh feature at high speed, boarding it like mad. We've taken some of the gems out of the Milne books and strung them together. Marketing says that the the featurette compilation from the sixties (The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh) sells steadily every time it has a new video release, but the television stuff of "Winnie the Pooh" doesn't much sell at all."
"This project is going to be an all-new feature. There was talk of having one of the original featurettes up at the front, but now it's going to be original stuff from front to back. I think the studio has figured out that going with feature quality animation will be more profitable in the long run, since the original featurettes are still selling well ..."
I'm thrilled. I think it should be all new, and I'm beyond happy!
"We're doing a new Winnie the Pooh feature at high speed, boarding it like mad. We've taken some of the gems out of the Milne books and strung them together. Marketing says that the the featurette compilation from the sixties (The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh) sells steadily every time it has a new video release, but the television stuff of "Winnie the Pooh" doesn't much sell at all."
"This project is going to be an all-new feature. There was talk of having one of the original featurettes up at the front, but now it's going to be original stuff from front to back. I think the studio has figured out that going with feature quality animation will be more profitable in the long run, since the original featurettes are still selling well ..."
I'm thrilled. I think it should be all new, and I'm beyond happy!
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/sep ... isney-film
(via disneyreport.com)
Disney announced today that it has begun production on the first Pooh feature film in decades, due for release in spring 2011. Writers have gone back to the original AA Milne books and, specifically, five unfilmed Pooh stories to be knitted together for the new film.
John Lasseter, Disney-Pixar's chief creative officer, said: "Winnie the Pooh has already been one of my favourite characters. Everyone always thinks Winnie the Pooh is for little kids but I screened original prints of the two Disney films and what's interesting was how they made a theatre full of adults laugh so hysterically."
Lasseter said they would be staying faithful to previous films by having watercolour backgrounds and Burny Mattinson, who previously worked on Pooh films, would be lead story artist.
(via disneyreport.com)
Disney announced today that it has begun production on the first Pooh feature film in decades, due for release in spring 2011. Writers have gone back to the original AA Milne books and, specifically, five unfilmed Pooh stories to be knitted together for the new film.
John Lasseter, Disney-Pixar's chief creative officer, said: "Winnie the Pooh has already been one of my favourite characters. Everyone always thinks Winnie the Pooh is for little kids but I screened original prints of the two Disney films and what's interesting was how they made a theatre full of adults laugh so hysterically."
Lasseter said they would be staying faithful to previous films by having watercolour backgrounds and Burny Mattinson, who previously worked on Pooh films, would be lead story artist.
