Blu-Rays for Gone With the Wind and Wizard of Oz

KubrickFan · Post by **KubrickFan** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:43 am

ajmrowland wrote: That's partly true. However, John Lassetter said that many theaters don't support blu-ray resolution. On the other hand, Movies shot on film, as opposed to digital, aren't locked to one resolution, so all future releases of this film could warrant a rescanning of the film to be mastered at the standard resolutions of future formats.

I haven't this film in a while, so I might at least netflix it.

The resolution of a print seen in theaters is estimated to be 2K, which is still bigger than HD. Digital theaters have the same resolution too, and nowadays every CG animated film is being rendered at at least 2K. So John Lasseter would have it wrong, then.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:03 pm

DVDTimes has posted specs for Gone with the Wind.

Two-Disc DVD $24.98
-The Movie spread on two-discs
-Commentary by Rudy Behlmer
-Offer for a numbered Limited Edition copy of the Original 1939 Poster

Ultimate Collector's Edition - DVD Version $69.92
-The 4-Disc DVD that was released in 2004, and a new bonus disc with the following:

* 1939: Hollywood's Greatest Year is a fascinating tribute to a year considered to be one of Hollywood’s greatest. This documentary, narrated by Kenneth Branagh, had its on-air premiere in July as part of TCM’s month-long festival saluting that year’s ‘bumper-crop’ of films.

* Gone with the Wind: The Legend Lives On is an exploration of the legacy of this most beloved film through illuminating interviews, footage and visits to historical sites, events and museums.

* Moviola: The Scarlett O'Hara Wars -- a 1980 WBTV Special, never before seen on home video.

Ultimate Collector's Edition - Blu-Ray Version
-The five discs above, but on two discs (I'm guessing the movie and commentary on the first disc, and all the supplements on the second disc)

-"MGM: When The Lion Roars" Documentary

Gubbins for the Ultimate Collector's Editions $84.99
20-page reproduction of the original and complete 1939 Souvenir Program

40-page Production History Book with photos and production notes

Eight Frameable 5x7 Art Prints

CD soundtrack sampler featuring eight tracks
o Main Title
o Tara
o The Barbecue
o Escape From Atlanta
o I'll Never Be Hungry Again!
o Paddock Scene 5:27
o Scarlett In The Mist/Rhett Leaves
o Flashback/Finale

(Image from TheDigitalBits)

TheDigitalBits also reports that the 1989 documentary "The Making of a Legend" (on Disc 3 in the DVD UCE, Disc 2 in the Blu UCE) will also be released on its own for $14.97

albert

Cordy_Biddle · Post by **Cordy_Biddle** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:53 pm

Does anyone know if all the extras on the Blu version (probably sans "When the Lion Roars") will be on the United Kingdom/Region B release?

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:31 pm

In some really exciting news, WB is re-releasing the new high-def restoration of Oz throughout the country for one night only on September 23, six days before the DVD and BD:

Click here for more info

What shocks me about this is that it's a fairly wide release for such an exclusive event. I checked where it's playing in my area, expecting not to get results. To my surprise, almost every theater within a 20 mile radius of me is showing it that night.

I was very disappointed when I missed the 60th anniversary theatrical re-release back in 1999. Now I'm sort of glad I did since now I'll get to see one of my all-time favorite films for the first time on the big screen in glorious high-definition.

Why can't Disney do this for their animated classics? I mean, they do, but only at El Capitan. I'm sure Disney would earn more than what they'd spend on theatrical re-releases of their films, especially if they're digital, one-night-only engagements like Oz is.

zackisthewalrus · Post by **zackisthewalrus** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:24 pm

Disneykid wrote:In some really exciting news, WB is re-releasing the new high-def restoration of Oz throughout the country for one night only on September 23, six days before the DVD and BD:

Click here for more info

What shocks me about this is that it's a fairly wide release for such an exclusive event. I checked where it's playing in my area, expecting not to get results. To my surprise, almost every theater within a 20 mile radius of me is showing it that night.

I was very disappointed when I missed the 60th anniversary theatrical re-release back in 1999. Now I'm sort of glad I did since now I'll get to see one of my all-time favorite films for the first time on the big screen in glorious high-definition.

Why can't Disney do this for their animated classics? I mean, they do, but only at El Capitan. I'm sure Disney would earn more than what they'd spend on theatrical re-releases of their films, especially if they're digital, one-night-only engagements like Oz is.

Oh my God! YES! This totally made my night! This is gonna be legen... wait for it.... almost there.... better not be lactose intolerant 'cause the next part of that word is... DARY!!! Hehe, How I Met Your Mother reference.

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:43 pm

well, Disney is doing the 3D re-releases of Toy Story/Toy Story 2 and Beauty and the Beast and you can bet more Disney and Pixar films will find their way back to the big screen if these two make enough money.

And they will. I mean, Beauty and the Beast in 3D on Valentine's day? Ka-Ching

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:54 pm

KubrickFan wrote:
ajmrowland wrote: That's partly true. However, John Lassetter said that many theaters don't support blu-ray resolution. On the other hand, Movies shot on film, as opposed to digital, aren't locked to one resolution, so all future releases of this film could warrant a rescanning of the film to be mastered at the standard resolutions of future formats.

I haven't this film in a while, so I might at least netflix it.
The resolution of a print seen in theaters is estimated to be 2K, which is still bigger than HD. Digital theaters have the same resolution too, and nowadays every CG animated film is being rendered at at least 2K. So John Lasseter would have it wrong, then.

Yeah, but most movies these days involve computers in production/post-production. Computers have resolutions closer to 1080p. I think that's what he meant, and that film stock gets worn out after a while.

KubrickFan · Post by **KubrickFan** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:21 pm

ajmrowland wrote: Yeah, but most movies these days involve computers in production/post-production. Computers have resolutions closer to 1080p. I think that's what he meant, and that film stock gets worn out after a while.

Depends on the movie. Some movies are done with a digital intermediate that has a 2K resolution, and others are done in a 4K resolution. Regular 35mm film has an estimated resolution of about 4K, but because there's a degrading happening when a print is copied, it's more or less 2K. But 2K is still higher than HD, albeit very little.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:29 am

okay, so I just went to HDD(high def digest) to check up on anything new, and found that this. It's an article on the restoration of Oz. Enjoy!

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/ ... of_Oz/3397

The Little Merboy · Post by **The Little Merboy** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:24 pm

Does anyone have a list of which places/stores will have "Exclusives" with their The Wizard of Oz (70th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Edition) on Blu Ray?

Amazon.com seems to offer a Digital Copy & Set of 4 Collectible 8x10 Character Posters.

Best Buy Exclusive comes with 4 different lenticular character postcards.

Anyone know if Target, Wal-Mart, Borders, FYE, Toys "R" Us or Barnes & Noble have exclusives too?

jrboy · Post by **jrboy** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:41 pm

The Little Merboy wrote:Anyone know if Target, Wal-Mart, Borders, FYE, Toys "R" Us or Barnes & Noble have exclusives too?

Wal-Mart

$19.96, not sure whats all on it yet
(thanks to qz3fwd at avsforum.com)

Target

$34.99, appears to be like the German release

(thanks to musick at blu-ray.com)

Cordy_Biddle · Post by **Cordy_Biddle** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:13 pm

DVDBeaver's review for the Blu-ray of "Wizard of Oz" is up now:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/wizard.htm

Purely from a space-saving perspective, I want to hold out for the UK release - if indeed all three discs will be holding the same extras as the American edition (especially "Dreamer of Oz" which I haven't seen in ages).

chadhobbick · Post by **chadhobbick** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:02 pm

I love both of these films, but don't want these supersized sets, I just want the blu-ray versions of both films. Am I to gather from everything that the only way to get these classics on blu ray is to buy the supesized collector's sets at this time?

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:13 pm

chadhobbick wrote:I love both of these films, but don't want these supersized sets, I just want the blu-ray versions of both films. Am I to gather from everything that the only way to get these classics on blu ray is to buy the supesized collector's sets at this time?

Apparently Target will have the Blu Ray of Wizard of Oz in a regular case not the big jumbo supersize set...but that's only at Target and also that day at Target Gremlins will be on Blu ray...

I heard at thedigitalbits.com that the same will happen with Gone with the Wind....in November and the goonies will be a blu ray exclusive at Target Upon that release....

At least that's what my understanding of it is.....though if I am incorrect please some one correct me

jrboy · Post by **jrboy** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:05 pm

chadhobbick wrote:I love both of these films, but don't want these supersized sets, I just want the blu-ray versions of both films. Am I to gather from everything that the only way to get these classics on blu ray is to buy the supesized collector's sets at this time?

Wal-Mart Exclusive - Appears to be the first two disc from the bl-ray gift set
(thanks to qz3fwd at avsforum.com)

goofystitch · Post by **goofystitch** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:25 pm

Blu-Ray.com has their review up. They gave it mostly glowing reviews. For owners of the previous 3-disc DVD, here is a breakdown of what new bonus features can be found on the Blu-Ray from the review:

Sing Along (HD, Disc 1): A simple subtitle feature that provides users lyrics and timing cues to sing along with a selection of songs from the film. Songs include "Over the Rainbow," "Munchkinland Medley," "Follow the Yellow Brick Road/You're Off to See the Wizard," "If I Only Had a Brain," "If I Only Had a Heart," "We're Off to See the Wizard," "If I Only Had the Nerve/We're Off to See the Wizard," "Optimistic Voices," "The Merry Old Land of Oz," and "If I Were King of the Forest."

Victor Fleming: Master Craftsman (SD, Disc 2, 34 minutes): A thorough overview of director Victor Fleming's life and career, including his work on The Wizard of Oz and other notable classics like Gone with the Wind. Granted, it makes Fleming sound like a working man's messiah, particularly during portions of the documentary that explore his on-set personality, but if anyone deserves it, it's an artisan who's had such an influence on modern filmmaking.

Hollywood Celebrates its Biggest Little Stars! (SD, Disc 2, 10 minutes): A tribute to the Munchkin actors that includes interviews with surviving cast members, their families, and Oz enthusiasts.

The Dreamer of Oz (SD, Disc 2, 92 minutes): This1990 NBC Baum biopic stars the late John Ritter as Baum, Annette O'Toole as his dutiful wife, and Rue McClanahan as her mother. Dreadful overacting and awful video quality aside (the transfer looks as if it's meant to be viewed with 3-D glasses), this Finding Neverland precursor is a decent, if not unnecessary addition to the set that will nevertheless please completists to no end.

The Patchwork Girl of Oz (SD, Disc 2, 51 minutes): A third 1914 silent film based on Baum's book of the same name.

MGM: When the Lion Roars (SD, Disc 3): Finally (if there is such a thing in this sprawling set), a two-side standard DVD disc is devoted to writer/director Frank Martin' When the Lion Roars, a massive six-hour documentary that details the rise and fall of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios. It's a shame Warner didn't give the film a high definition overhaul, but it's such a laughable nitpick that I feel foolish for even mentioning it.

BD-Live Functionality

Digital Copy Disc

Surprisingly, the new bonus feature that appeals to me the most is the two-sided DVD of When the Lion Roars. Why that wasn't put on a single Blu-Ray disc for this set is beyond me.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:37 am

If the Target version turns out to be exactly the same as the full-scale Blu-ray release, only without the trinkets (watch, reprints, and book), I'll probably opt to save $20 and get it there. While the trinkets and large display box would be nice, I know that I won't get much mileage out of them and I could use the savings in both price and shelf space. What I must have is the movie and all of the supplementary material -- if Target can give me that for $35, I'm all over it. I just hope we can get reliable confirmation on that in time for a release date purchase.

-Aaron

zackisthewalrus · Post by **zackisthewalrus** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:45 am

I looked at the digital weekly ad on my computer this morning, and I clicked on the Blu-ray for "The Wizard of Oz." The only detail it said was that is was exclusive to Target. There was text on the bottom on the picture. It was really small, but I think it might've said "2-Disc Limited Edition" or something like that. Hopefully that means 2-Discs and a Bonus Disc. We can only hope.

Also, for those who don't know, it was found that the Walmart version is only 1-Disc.

PeterPanfan · Post by **PeterPanfan** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:26 pm

I think I'll pass on this. I already have the previous release, and honestly it doesn't even sound tempting enough...

goofystitch · Post by **goofystitch** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:12 am

I really hope Best Buy still has copies with the lenticular cards when I get out of class at 3:30 tomorrow. Those look really cool!

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