Upcoming Platinum Editions: Sleeping Beauty 2008, 2009...

All topics relating to Disney-branded content.
Mason_Ireton

Re: Next Platinums

Post by Mason_Ireton »

I might re-purchase Sleeping Beauty if they got more bonuses to release and it's remastered in great detail like the prev. platinums, Snow White...She can stay in the vault for another few years. Glad everybody appericated my BIG news.
Billy Moon
Special Edition
Posts: 524
Joined: Wed May 21, 2003 5:21 am

Post by Billy Moon »

I suspect Sleeping Beauty will get a new restoration and the extras will be the same.

Here's what I think: After they started to release 2 platinums a year, they realized the schedule was too tight. And since they couldn't go back to releasing 1 a year, they decided to add those four films to the platinum line. This way they'd have filler titles with a good amount of extra material readily available to leave enough time to create extras for the rest of them. That's why Peter Pan didn't get a new, long making of, and trust me, Sleeping Beauty won't either.
User avatar
Atlantica
Signature Collection
Posts: 5445
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:33 am
Location: UK

Post by Atlantica »

Wow! Thanks for that great news!

But I do agree, they should release them all before re-issues start.

A couple of questions I had though .. .. ..

1) Will they change the Platinum DVD covers? Or keep with the ones they had before?

2) How will they issue the trailers do you think? I remember the tagline from Snow White was "The One That Started It All .. Availible For The First Time Ever On Disney DVD". I wonder how they will pitch it now?

Just some random things I thought of! :)

Also, I can't see how they can improve on the Collectors Edition of Sleeping Beauty, as that was one of the best Disney DVD releases ever, in my opinion.
User avatar
blackcauldron85
Ultimate Collector's Edition
Posts: 16705
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:54 am
Gender: Female
Contact:

Post by blackcauldron85 »

:(

Hmmm. That kind of burst my bubble. I own all the PEs so far, so I'm saddened by the news (but I am happy for those of you who initially missed out). I think, just based on the nature of the PE line, that "Pinocchio" should be released prior to at least any rereleases of the PEs (so, I won't be happy if "Pinocchio" is released after SB, but I'd be very upset if SW is released before "Pinocchio"). The only way I'd rebuy SB is if it has some of the most amazing bonus features ever. I highly doubt I'll rebuy SW, since that's one of the best DVDs ever.

:(
Image
User avatar
Princess Stitch
Gold Classic Collection
Posts: 336
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:13 pm
Location: Mississauga, Canada

Post by Princess Stitch »

atlanticaunderthesea wrote: snip

Also, I can't see how they can improve on the Collectors Edition of Sleeping Beauty, as that was one of the best Disney DVD releases ever, in my opinion.
I can see it now.... PE of Sleeping Beauty contains all the extras of the Special Edition.....plus an exclusive bonus episode of Disney Princess Enchanted Tales.....

:roll:
Image
Dottie
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2576
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:51 pm
Location: The Pie-Hole
Contact:

Post by Dottie »

Thought I'd give this a bump, so that one of the moderators can merge this thread and the other one that was posted yesterday. There are just too many threads out there.
Image
User avatar
potterrules93
Special Edition
Posts: 528
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:47 pm
Location: Ohio

Post by potterrules93 »

haha princessstitch..i must say that even though i have the SE i am excited for the PE..i just hope that SW is released in the exact form..same features i mean so that once all of the other PE's sre released, they have the same features and i will not need to rebuy all of them
~Ryn~
Mason_Ireton

Re: Sleeping Beauty Platinum

Post by Mason_Ireton »

*Raises his hand* Twas moi that posted the offical confirm of Sleeping Beauty Dottie, I don't mind connecting the 2 threads.
Dottie
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2576
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:51 pm
Location: The Pie-Hole
Contact:

Post by Dottie »

I know. I am sorry, if it seemed like I was wanting the credit for this great news.
I just thought it'd be convenient to merge the threads, since there are so many on UD, that actually deal with the same topic. Makes it easier to choose which one to read, and you have all the info in just one single thread and not in like 5.
Image
darth_deetoo

Post by darth_deetoo »

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:How will they issue the trailers do you think? I remember the tagline from Snow White was "The One That Started It All .. Availible For The First Time Ever On Disney DVD". I wonder how they will pitch it now?
The One That Started It All .. Availible For The First Time Ever On Disney Blu Ray

:)
User avatar
Atlantica
Signature Collection
Posts: 5445
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:33 am
Location: UK

Post by Atlantica »

Do you think they will pitch Blu Ray and the RE Release together then darth_deetoo?
Disneyfreak1990
Special Edition
Posts: 529
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:34 pm
Location: america

Post by Disneyfreak1990 »

it's probably being re-released onto Blu-ray not DVD, SW not SB. and you guys are wrong with how they chose the titles, they chose the bestselling films they had and SB just happened to be on there. but since they already had it re-released they should have skipped it and gone to number 15 or done Black Cauldron since that film hasn't been released since day 1 or they could've done Hunchback or Hercules since those films deserve this treatment not SB since she already got a great. if they had done it this way then she wouldn't be OOP already.
and to whoever said that the october date is a princess release let's check, Snow White check, Beauty and the Beast check, Lion King what princess is there that i missed?, Alladin check, Cinderella check, Mermaid check, Jungle Book ugh what princess is in this film anyway?, SB double check, after this all we'll have left is Pinocchio and Fantasia and none of them have a princess or did i miss her? :lol:
User avatar
DarthPrime
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2520
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:55 pm

Post by DarthPrime »

darth_deetoo wrote:
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:How will they issue the trailers do you think? I remember the tagline from Snow White was "The One That Started It All .. Availible For The First Time Ever On Disney DVD". I wonder how they will pitch it now?
The One That Started It All .. Availible For The First Time Ever On Disney Blu Ray

:)
I just hope we don't get a cropped version on Blu-ray if we do get a version. I have a horrible feeling we will still start to see some fullscreen titles get fake widescreens if the new formats take off.

"Instead of black bars on the top and bottom now we get them on the sides..." I can already hear those arguments. :(
User avatar
Jules
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4631
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:20 am
Gender: Male
Location: Malta, Europe
Contact:

Post by Jules »

DarthPrime wrote:I just hope we don't get a cropped version on Blu-ray if we do get a version. I have a horrible feeling we will still start to see some fullscreen titles get fake widescreens if the new formats take off.
That will never happen, rest assured.

Guys, believe it or not - what I'm really pissed at is the Fantasia release date. I mean ... 2010 ... honestly, who the hell will have to guts to wait that long!?

I have the Region 2 release of Fantasia, which I've sworn I will never watch again. Yeah, the video quality is THAT bad ... much worse than that of most of the package films, believe you me.

I just wanna know if the Region 1 release looks at least a little bit better than the Region 2 version. If so, I'll see if I can get one on eBay. I'm not waiting till 2010.
Disneyfreak1990 wrote:it's probably being re-released onto Blu-ray not DVD.
If they do that, then a lot of people will be missing it too this time round. I don't think that 80% of the world's population will have a Blu-Ray player by 2008, do you? :wink:

In a nutshell - if they do that, they're fools.
Lars Vermundsberget
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2483
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: Norway

Post by Lars Vermundsberget »

Julian Carter wrote:Guys, believe it or not - what I'm really pissed at is the Fantasia release date. I mean ... 2010 ... honestly, who the hell will have to guts to wait that long!?
Hah - it might be sooner than you think. :P
User avatar
brotherbear
Special Edition
Posts: 540
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:44 pm
Location: In the Jungles of India

Post by brotherbear »

Julian Carter wrote: Guys, believe it or not - what I'm really pissed at is the Fantasia release date. I mean ... 2010 ... honestly, who the hell will have to guts to wait that long!?

I have the Region 2 release of Fantasia, which I've sworn I will never watch again. Yeah, the video quality is THAT bad ... much worse than that of most of the package films, believe you me.

I just wanna know if the Region 1 release looks at least a little bit better than the Region 2 version. If so, I'll see if I can get one on eBay. I'm not waiting till 2010.


In a nutshell - if they do that, they're fools.
I'm a little peeved about Fantasia as well. (Though not not AS peeved as I am about Pinocchio, because in Region 1, we got the Fantasia Anthology which is chocked full of bonus features and has a pretty good restoration). Right now though, I'm really curious about your region 2 DVD. I hate to ask, but are you sure your copy's not a bootleg? Because I would assume that Disney would use the same transfer for Fantasia in both regions, and our transfer was pretty good. (When you take into account that it is NOT a Platinum, it's 60 years old, etc). The only major issue with our transfer (video quality wise) is that there's a blig blue spot in the volcano sequence of "Rite of Spring."

Another question: Do you have the VHS of Fantasia to compare your DVD to? I guess I'm asking because you're acting as if the DVD video transfer on the DVD is just as bad (possibly worse?) than the VHS. (ala: The Jungle Book Limited Issue, at least in R1). Because I do have both the VHS and DVD of Fantasia and I'm just about 100% sure (not positive because I haven't watched either versions in about a year, so I don't remember that well) that the DVD video quality is far better than the VHS (minus the big blue spot).

If you are considering purchasing the R1 Fantasia Anthology (which I REALLY recommend!) then I would read-up on UD's review of the set, to get an idea of what you'd be getting. The set on the whole is on par with the Platinums in many UD'ers opinions (including my own) mainly because of the amount of bonus features and even the transfer itself. In all, the set is worth the purchase; if you can find it. The Fantasia Anthology has become one of the rarest R1 Disney sets on the market, and so if you decide to use eBay, you might wind up paying around $100 (US$) (likely more) for a new, sealed copy of the set. At this point, I would full-heartidly recommend getting this set ASAP. We have around 3 years until Fantasia comes out of the vault again which I know can be a LONG wait for many.

I should warn you that all of the edits that were found in earlier releases (and likely R2 releases) are still on this set. You will not see Sunflower or any other black centaurs in on this DVD. Also, the narration by Deems Taylor was dubbed over with a new voice due to the lost narration cut from the film after Fantasia's theatrical release.

But despite the ranting above, if you you can find the Anthology at a reasonable price, I personally would recommend getting it.

-BB
MY "FAB FOUR": 1- FANTASIA, 2- THE LION KING, 3- BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, 4- THE JUNGLE BOOK

Image
User avatar
Jules
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4631
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:20 am
Gender: Male
Location: Malta, Europe
Contact:

Post by Jules »

Hey double "b" brother bear! :)

I'm positive my Fantasia copy is not a bootleg. It was part of "The Fantasia DVD Collection" which is the equivalent of the US "The Fantasia Anthology" albeit with a different name. It has a similar box with that blueish picture of an orchestra under the stars. Unfortunately, the cardboard box that housed my DVDs has been destroyed, but oh well.

In Europe with did not get the same transfer as the US. For one thing we do not have the roadshow version. I'm aware of the fact that in the US, Fantasia isn't fully uncut either, but in Europe, the DVD commences with the Walt Disney Pictures Logo and the Fantasia title card, exactly as it did on VHS. Deems Taylor's voice, however, is dubbed, just like the US release. My main complaint, however, is the video quality. The feature is unsightly. It's riddled with grain and artifacts, the former being the worst offender. The colours look rather washed out, especially in "The Pastoral Symphony". I think the worst looking segment is "Night on Bald Mountain".

I think Wonderlicious or ichabod once mentioned that in Europe we got the 1990 VHS transfer of Fantasia for the 2000 DVD. I think that explains the horrible quality of the video (and audio, to a certain extent).

I don't have the Fantasia VHS to compare. I used to have it, but it was a bootleg. On UD's review of Dumbo 60th Anniversary Edition, it says that the video quality almost suggests VHS. I'd say that description can be attributed to the Region 2 Fantasia transfer.

I think I will try to buy Fantasia in Region 1, but not as part of the Anthology set that you mentioned, as I already have Fantasia 2000 and the Fantasia Legacy Disc that were part of "The Fantasia DVD Collection". I think I will get the "Fantasia - 60th Anniversary Edition", which I believe is just like the first disc of the Anthology set, and all I need.

Thanks for your reply brotherbear. :) I can never rant enough about the Region 2 Fantasia set, as it's easily the worst looking film I have in my collection. :wink:
Billy Moon
Special Edition
Posts: 524
Joined: Wed May 21, 2003 5:21 am

Post by Billy Moon »

Julian Carter wrote:I think I will try to buy Fantasia in Region 1, but not as part of the Anthology set that you mentioned, as I already have Fantasia 2000 and the Fantasia Legacy Disc that were part of "The Fantasia DVD Collection". I think I will get the "Fantasia - 60th Anniversary Edition", which I believe is just like the first disc of the Anthology set, and all I need.
That's what I did when I got my region-free DVD player. Idon't remember the R2 transfer looking that poor, though. But it does exclude the longer introductions and intermission, as well as the making of and commentaries. (The making of and commentaries are missing from the R2 Fantasia 2000 disc as well, but I didn't bother to get it from R1, since Fantasia 2000 is more like bonus material to me, anyway.)
User avatar
Widdi
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1519
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:10 pm
Location: North Bay, Ontario

Post by Widdi »

Just got back from a day trip to Ottawa and I asked the cashier at the Disney Store there if she knew anything about the upcomming platinum releases and she told me that they haven't heard anything about releases past Sleeping Beauty in October of '08, but that as far as she knew Pinocchio and Fantasia were coming in '09.

Don't know whether or not info is accurate, but that's what I was told.
User avatar
Pluto Region1
Special Edition
Posts: 684
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:13 pm
Location: Where Walt is Buried

Post by Pluto Region1 »

Disneykid wrote:I think you meant Pinocchio's coming Fall 2009, not 2010 right? Right...? If so, that means the schedule's like this:

Spring 2008: One Hundred and One Dalmatians
Fall 2008: Sleeping Beauty
Spring 2009: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Fall 2009: Pinocchio

I'm willing to bet either Sleeping Beauty or Snow White will be the first Blu-Ray Platinum. Looking at the schedule, the only Platinum left would be Fantasia which I assume would be Spring 2010. While I personally would swap Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty, it's good to hear Pinocchio's coming in two and a half years (assuming your 2010 thing was a typo; please say it is).
I'm in the camp with those who are disappointed that Pinocchio keeps getting pushed back. I have NEVER seen this film! (at least that I am aware of - maybe my parents took me as a kid, but I just don't remember it.) They do not have it at the video store here. It seems that the older Disney videos/DVDs get ruined and/or stolen and then cannot be replaced!

I've never seen Sleeping Beauty either so I guess it doesn't matter either way but I had my heart on Pinocchio... I think, as some have said here, that its being pushed up, due to the popularity of the Disney Princess line.

That would be interesting if they do SW on Blu-Ray. Hopefully we'll have bought a player by that time...

But I do have a question, everyone keeps saying they really HOPE this or they really HOPE that, so I guess we can't trust the current official release schedules? I mean, is Disney prone to changing the release dates over the history of the Platinum series or is this just a recent phenomenon?

Lastly, this is just my opinion but I don't think customer service people at the Disney Stores will have accurate information about distant Disney release schedules. They probably have accurate info on near-term DVDs expected to come into the store within the coming year, but far out release dates being determined inside Disney BVHE? The store is, after all, run by the Children's Place, a separate company. They therefore are not likely privy to corporate decisions inside TWDC.
Pluto Region1, Disney fan in training
Image
Post Reply