The Disney Vault: Announcements, Discussion, & Questions

[swray1024]

I also would agree with that. It makes sense from the Disney side to sell Sleeping Beauty get us to be the Special Edition...and in 10 years or whatever release the Platinum Edition, and watch us all splurge for that too. I guess my question would be: What are they going to add that they didn't already add? It's already a 2 disc. I doubt they would add a 3rd disc. But maybe replace some of the things or a new commentary or something?

[rodis]

I guess my question would be: What are they going to add that they didn't already add? It's already a 2 disc. I doubt they would add a 3rd disc. But maybe replace some of the things or a new commentary or something?

That's exactly my question... At first I thought maybe the Sleeping Beauty SE is the platinum edition
Anyway, as much as I love SB & Peter Pan, I don't think they should have included them in the 'platinum edition' line. 14 titles? Doesn't sound right
The original 10 titles are the most sussessful ones, most sold ones, most popular... adding another 4 (especially when 2 of them were initially flops, no matter how masterpiece-ish they are) just seems wrong.

[englishboy]

Supply and demand. Decrease supplly, increase demand. Release it again, maybe with a couple new extras, maybe in a new format.

Also Disney is pushing its DVD rotation through quicker than originally planned due to a stepped-up timeline for HD DVDs, which should be commercially available in 3-5 years. So at that time, Disney will re-re-re-re-re-release Snow White in its new HD DVD format and proabably sell a lot of copies to those of us who already own it on DVD and maybe even on VHS or LD. From what I understand HD DVD will be backwards compatible with today's DVDs--or that's the plan--but really, in five years we'll all look at our DVDs the way we now look at our VHSes. (I still like LDs, though.)

I still buy today's DVDs. But you gotta realize the marketing impulse behind these decisions is based on actual profit, nothing else.

[Swiss]

In five years we'll all look at our DVDs the way we now look at our VHSes. (I still like LDs, though.)

The gap between VHS to DVD is so significant. It was hands-down acceptance of the new format. However I won't embrace HD-DVD as welcoming as I did DVD's. There isn't enough change for me, to get caught up with it. Eventually I will be forced to capitulate, however that will be at the very end. I simply refuse to re-re-re-re-re-repurchase a "Platinum Signature Collectors Deluxe Limited Special Super Mega Amazing Magnificent Collection" HD-DVD version of any film.

[DisneyEars]

Michael Eisner seriosuly though I hate when films get discontinued, I can't buy all my faeves when they come out

[Disney Guru]

The classics that sell well are always the ones that get put back into the vault. The ones that are less popular are rarely put back into the vault.

[Evil Genie Jafar]

...do you think Disney is going to release them exactly the same way as it did the first time around?

As for me.... I don't know what to think. That's why I'm asking.

Could you guess?

[saving107]

i don't think so, no DVD is release twice the same, something is always different in the quality, sound or extras.

[Evil Genie Jafar]

Well, regarding video/audio quality I think it would be the same. Why would it be different since they already restored it and just have to duplicate it?

But regarding all else, it just came to my mind that probably the second disc would be lost.

[Key]

If the PEs get released as Blu-Rays later along the line instead of DVDs... I'm assuming it will be much better quality-wise (if it isn't, er... yeah XD). About bonus content, I'm not sure.

It'd be nice to see new material, though.

[MickeyMousePal]

Well of course Disney isn't going to re-release the same DVD. They are going to probably have blu-ray in the near future. Those new disc will have more room to store more information on the disc.
They could put new interviews, better graphics and new games.
Who knows even new music videos.

[Evil Genie Jafar]

Well of course Disney isn't going to re-release the same DVD. They are going to probably have blu-ray in the near future. Those new disc will have more room to store more information on the disc.
They could put new interviews, better graphics and new games.
Who knows even new music videos.

That's nice. So by your guess, we who keep waiting for the next releases, went first in line to get them, and others who have paid more to get these limited editions that have gone to the vault... at the end we're going to be the ones with the "worst" editions; In comparison to the people thar are just going to buy them the day they get re-released.

It's not that I'm making fun of you in any way. It is just that your guess on that is not very comforting and actually a little depressing

[MickeyMousePal]

Evil Genie Jafar Wrote:

at the end we're going to be the ones with the "worst" editions

I'm not saying that they will be 'worst" all I'm saying is that the old ones will be less upgraded. I know it sounds bad but look at it this wall out with the old in with the new. Just like VHS and DVD getting an upgrade. Then the Limited Issue that was horrible Editions on with the upgraded 2 disc DVD sets. Thanks for believing my prediction.

[Evil Genie Jafar]

Thanks for believing my prediction.

Well, it makes sense. By the time the Platinum get back from the vault the new technolgy will be available. And it wouldn't make sense that a company like Disney would make a step backwards instead of forward.

It should be fair for us with the Platinums that when they get them back they should arrive in a less "deluxe" way as the first time; that's the reason why they have a limited sale time..... But.... as we know Disney, they would just want to make more and more money out of us.

And giving a tought of the upcoming "upgrade" to the already great SE of Sleeping Beauty.... your prediction more than makes sense.

[AwallaceUNC]

So by your guess, we who keep waiting for the next releases, went first in line to get them, and others who have paid more to get these limited editions that have gone to the vault... at the end we're going to be the ones with the "worst" editions

Well we also are going to enjoy the movies for many more years. Take Snow White for example. It will probably be the first (or among the first) of Blu-Ray's Platinum Edition equivalents to be released. It's already been 5 years since Snow White came out and it's going to be at least several more before Disney starts putting out wide release special editions of their classics on Blu-Ray. Therefore, you're going to enjoy the movie for nearly a decade that the other new-comers won't... and one that is still an excellent release, at that. By the time nearly ten years has passed, you're probably not going to mind buying an awesome new edition to match your new home video format anyways. It's not so bad. Besides, if we ran out of Disney HOME VIDEO to buy... what would we do?

-Aaron

[deathie mouse]

To answer the question , I don't think they will be the same (we've had 3 dvds of Mary Poppins, are they the same?)


Each version tries to be more than before... same thing happened with laserdiscs, I have the "restored" Snow White there, but WITHOUT the removal of film artifacts (grain for example) of the DVD. (Lets call the LD one the film based version and the DVD one the cel based version ) I suppose that the "cel" version was re-released on VHS simultaneously this last time too (I reeeeeeeeaally have no clue what goes on on the VHS world since i never bought any, except the one prerecorded movie I have on VHS for it's original stereo mix) so the next iteration might be the 35mm-like high resolution Blu version and have it's simultaneous 16mm-like DVD re-release with some different extras/features, just like I assume there was a VHS of the last one, and a VHS release when the Laserdisc version came out. (I think) (Maybe Guru knows more about all this VHS stuff )

Brother Jafar, the upgrade bug hits us all at one time or another. As all bugs we can feel upset for a while till we build inmunity and get on with life It's just happening faster and faster than before cus of the digital technology advancement pace and giving us a little more Future Shock (*said in an Orson Wells voice ) Mmmm before Laserdiscs there were 8mm digest movie versions of some films (My mom had a Regular-8mm/Super-8 projector (not the video format, actually tiny reels of film) I think those were around for a couple of generations and I think they weren't what we would call cheap and of course if you didnt have those you collected soundtrack Lps and "imagined" you were watching the films Then came Laserdiscs and they were around for almost a generation, now DVD. Cycles seem to be getting shorter..

Look at the Audio world, in there it's worse!

78 RPM, 33.33 RPM LP Mono then Stereo then Quad, CD, Superbitmapped CD, HDCD coded CD, XRCD, multichannel DTS-CD, stereo SACD, multichannel SACD, Hybrid SACD, DVD-A, DualDisc <-(mmm heh that latest one is funny: glue a CD to a DVD or DVD-Audio on the other side )
(maybe presaging puny hd-dvd?) (do i put barfy here? )

If you don't see the irony, I see that as the equivalent of gluing a VHS to a DVD. I would much prefere to have them separate! In fact I already have DualDiscs, just that they don't come glued together inside the DVD case but on their own separate hubs! )

(Btw, Lps are STILL being played and sold)

Besides, if we ran out of Disney DVDs to buy... what would we do?

Why...
Buy Disney Blu-Rays, of course!

[Ciaobelli]

If they release the same disc people won't double dip, they need to add or change stuff to have us buy it.

[AwallaceUNC]

Besides, if we ran out of Disney DVDs to buy... what would we do?

Why...
Buy Disney Blu-Rays, of course!

*Edits last post*

I don't know what you're talking about, deathie!

-Aaron

[2099net]

While any next releases are bound to come on the next-gen DVD format (I won't say which, as either could ultimately "win"), they will also come on normal DVD. Let's face it, they are also releasing VHS versions now.

Will it be the same or different? Well, making it different will encourage people to rebuy, but there are millions who missed Snow White on DVD the first time - remember it came early in the format's history, not everyone had DVD players when it was out.

And they can release something almost the same. Some Platinum and SE DVDs match the previously released LaserDiscs closely.

I can't really see how Snow White could be improved for "normal" DVD. Of course, the "Next Gen" release could have all new bells and whistles depending on the format's capabilities. But for normal DVDs, the current Snow White PE is pretty much it. I think they will probably just add a new "specially recorded song" or two and maybe add on a few things missing from the LD release, the bulk of the supplements being the same.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

While any next releases are bound to come on the next-gen DVD format (I won't say which, as either could ultimately "win"), they will also come on normal DVD. Let's face it, they are also releasing VHS versions now.

You could be right for all I know. But the next-generation "videodisc" may be backwards-compatible with the DVD of today. Well, no disc is compatible with a VHS cassette, so that could make a difference.

About owners of older versions getting "stuck" with something inferior to the new releases:

They are probably "always" going to be able to improve picture quality, but it seems sometimes they also change the appearance of the picture (colour, contrasts, brightness...), so a new version may in some cases turn out to be less "right" than the older one.

Tinkering with the extras aren't always doing much good, either. I got around to watching the Lion King DVD for the first time a few weeks ago. The whole menu setup makes me prefer the extras of the laserdisc box set.