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DisneyJedi wrote:Honestly, I'm still worried they might ruin the reputation of the Maleficent that we've all come to known over the years with the upcoming movie, regardless of whether or not it's a smash hit or downright awful. :(

So we'll (hopefully) see Jolie's Maleficent go One-Winged Angel (aka become a dragon) in the film, but I hope they don't botch that up.

PS, Maleficent was never mentioned as a fairy in Sleeping Beauty. This, she technically is in fact a witch. :P
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Studio production chief Sean Bailey said it will include many allusions to that earlier film, however. “We’ll see the epic battle with of the dragon, but this time, just maybe, we may find ourselves rooting for the other side,” he says.
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Honestly, I'm kind of intrigued by the new synopsis. It sounds like they're going for Pagan/woman/nature v. Christian/man. Not a new concept or anything, but it gives me more interest than I've had so far. The casting is all I had liked so far, not so much the plot. Plus, I like the idea of Maleficent kind of representing that worldview, since she isn't a "good" character (even in this version, I believe) per se.

I'm glad it seems like they're not going to make her a perfect, misunderstood, special snowflake--just giving a different (not necessarily "right") side to the situation.

EDIT: Why am I screwing up my "they're/there/their"'s today. :? :P
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disneyprincess11 wrote:Oh great, so this is the script from January?
This synopsis on the D23 website sure makes it sound like. I'll bold the part that has me very concerned that sounds like the leaked script
Maleficent is the untold story of Disney’s most iconic villain from the 1959 classic Sleeping Beauty. A beautiful, pure-hearted young woman, Maleficent has an idyllic life growing up in a peaceable forest kingdom, until one day when an invading army threatens the harmony of the land. Maleficent rises to be the land’s fiercest protector, but she ultimately suffers a ruthless betrayal—an act that begins to turn her pure heart to stone. [/b]Bent on revenge, Maleficent faces an epic battle with the invading king’s successor and, as a result, places a curse upon his newborn infant Aurora. As the child grows, Maleficent realizes that Aurora holds the key to peace in the kingdom—and perhaps to Maleficent’s true happiness as well.[/b]
https://d23.com/walt-disney-studios-liv ... -d23-expo/

However, I won't rule out not seeing it, perhaps Angelina's performance as Maleficent will be awesome, but that might be the only thing to get me to see this. I won't see it opening weekend or anything, but maybe on a weekday for $4.
I just hate it seems that she will come to love Aurora like in that script and find happiness. Though they can't really make a movie about Maleficent being a total bad butt if she's the star of the movie. However one way they could have done it is in this book actually about the Evil Queen from Snow White. It's handled really well and I'd prefer to see this as a movie.

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DisneyJedi wrote:Honestly, I'm still worried they might ruin the reputation of the Maleficent that we've all come to known over the years with the upcoming movie, regardless of whether or not it's a smash hit or downright awful. :(
You and me both. I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I do not want Angelina Jolie replacing the real Maleficent, and all the hype is kinda twisting my gut. :(
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Kraken Guard wrote:
DisneyJedi wrote:Honestly, I'm still worried they might ruin the reputation of the Maleficent that we've all come to known over the years with the upcoming movie, regardless of whether or not it's a smash hit or downright awful. :(
You and me both. I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I do not want Angelina Jolie replacing the real Maleficent, and all the hype is kinda twisting my gut. :(
I'll give the movie a shot, but the more I hear of this, I feel like it's kinda an else world comic type thing which is what I'd consider it to be
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What is it with the live action Disney films (not the Bruckheimer films) having leaked scripts with shitty ideas ? I like the Pagan woman vs. the Christian man angle,but PLEASE don't make Malificient mommy like or the King's ex gf.

But there is a way Maleficient can be the "mother figure". But she is more like the Other Mom from Coraline. She treats the child like a possesion putting the child in a victim situation.
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Candy-Bonita95 wrote:What is it with the live action Disney films (not the Bruckheimer films) having leaked scripts with shitty ideas ? I like the Pagan woman vs. the Christian man angle,but PLEASE don't make Malificient mommy like or the King's ex gf.

But there is a way Maleficient can be the "mother figure". But she is more like the Other Mom from Coraline. She treats the child like a possesion putting the child in a victim situation.
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But I don't think so since in that quote it said Aurora was the key to peace and to her happiness. That part sounds very closely to the leaked script.

Also I get a gut wrenching feeling when people watch Sleeping Beauty and think that both Maleficent's are one in the same :huh:
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Maybe this will reinvigorate popularity and interest for Sleeping Beauty the way the live action 101 Dalmatians did for...101 Dalmatians. :lol: While Cruella wasn't the "hero" of that movie, people don't consider Glenn Close's Cruella as the definitive Cruella either, even though she did a hell of a job. Even the merchandise that came out then was mostly of the animated versions of the characters, plus there was the Disney channel cartoon, etc.

Maleficent is one of the villains Disney pushes the most in their merchandise, theme park shows, etc. She's basically the poster child for Disney villain. They're not going to let her go just for Angelina Jolie.

I actually don't think this movie will do all that well though. It doesn't sound like something most people would be all that interested in. In fact, it sounds like a made for TV project :|
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disneyprincess11 wrote:Oh great, so this is the script from January?
It sure sounds like it. *shudder*
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No no no...pure-hearted and then becomes evil by someone doing bad to her? That's so lazy and overdone!!! And they have to change the original movie's story and characters just to make this new movie work? Also very lazy!!!
DisneyJedi wrote:PS, Maleficent was never mentioned as a fairy in Sleeping Beauty. This, she technically is in fact a witch. :P
No, in Disney's 1959 animated Sleeping Beauty she could be a fairy or a witch. But in the original fairy tale that Disney based the movie on the character is said to be a fairy.
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That script looks so fucking lazy. :headshake:

Why is Stephan considered the villain here? I thought Maleficent's issue was that she was spiteful with anyone, not only the King. Seriously, am I missing something here? Did Stephan turn out to be the Witch's ex or something? :lol:
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By the way they showed that just like Sleeping Beauty my guess is that what the movie is going to show are the 16 years in between when Maleficent was in search of Aurora.
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thedisneyspirit wrote:That script looks so fucking lazy. :headshake:

Why is Stephan considered the villain here? I thought Maleficent's issue was that she was spiteful with anyone, not only the King. Seriously, am I missing something here? Did Stephan turn out to be the Witch's ex or something? :lol:
Based on the leaked script Maleficent and Stefan are lovers but Stefan's father the king uses their relationship to gain access to the fairy kingdom to attack it. Which is a part of the script that I find kind of interesting. I'm still holding all judgement on the film until I see it. The reactions to the footage were extremely positive, saying that Jolie WAS Maleficent, right down to the Eleanor Audley voice (which I was anxious about). Honestly, as long as they get the essence of the character right and give the film an interesting visual flare, I'm okay with making changes. If they want to make Maleficent more sympathetic and Stefan a asshole (I mean, he didn't have much personality in the original), then I'm theoretically okay with it as long as it makes sense in the realm of the film. Of course it wouldn't make sense in the 1959 film, but this is a different film.
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For some reason, Mal is the ONE Villain I don't ever want to see a "good side" of. Sentencing a baby to die because her dragon ass didn't get a party invite....THAT is some Epic Evil indeed. Now I'm ok with them adding some tension history with the King, but Mal shouldn't be the one issuing the loophole in the curse about being woken by love's first kiss, that's for Merryweather (or rather Thistletwat, or whatever her name is in this movie).

Oh well, at least we'll always have the 1959 film to cherish her as the Mistress of All Evil.
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DancingCrab wrote:...Mal shouldn't be the one issuing the loophole in the curse about being woken by love's first kiss, that's for Merryweather (or rather Thistletwat, or whatever her name is in this movie).
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Just reading the description of the trailer they showed at D23 sounds promising and I would've thought someone would've posted a video recording of it on YouTube by now. I mean, they did with that sample of Let It Go from Frozen.

Is it too much to ask for that? :(
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Apparently this is a poster that was seen in theatres. It looks pretty real to me, and looks good at that!

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DisneyJedi wrote:Just reading the description of the trailer they showed at D23 sounds promising and I would've thought someone would've posted a video recording of it on YouTube by now. I mean, they did with that sample of Let It Go from Frozen.

Is it too much to ask for that? :(
Well there is this trailer review where 2 guys actually describe the trailer shown at D23

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bNrNdJA9Ns[/youtube]
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lord-of-sith wrote:Apparently this is a poster that was seen in theatres. It looks pretty real to me, and looks good at that!

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I don't know if the image of the poster is official or not, but this photo has been photoshoped. Look at the bottom corner of the left side, doesn't fit well to the frame. This not-so-well copy/paste work can be noticed on the mirror too.

Also, the overall blur of the photo doesn't match with the clear definition of the "poster"

Anyway I hope to see an official poster soon!!!
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Could somebody send me the leaked script?
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