Beauty And The Beast: Diamond Edition Discussion Oct. 5th!

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Hey! I never realized that the artwork for the Snow White combo packs was different for the BluRay and the DVD cases.

It never made sense to me at all for them to put the old hag in the mirror, regardless of what cover it was!
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The US was the only country that got screwed with that terrible cover art. I actually preferred the original, pre-hag art, only with the updated on-model characters. Having the queen on there twice was redundant and just crowded the cover even more and when they shoved her in the mirror, it made no sense having the characters gushing over her. It was obviously a dumb marketing idea to help differentiate the two different Blu-ray versions available.
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I like it! :)
it has it's charm....

though I can't help but wonder why they didn't position their faces the same as the covers of the PE dvd.
I agree that Belle is an improvement, though the fur of Beast is way off!!!

Overall good first attempt, but I like to see them try better

I once did this small panorama
Now I know most of you here can probably do way better but nonetheless I had fun trying :oops:

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Goliath wrote:I didn't mean to start a new discussion about the colors, so you all don't have to overreact to it. I just wanted to know if the colors in the trailer for the DE were correct, and you know with that, I mean the theatrical version. We all know for a fact that the colors on the PE were nothing like the theatrical version. I still have no idea WHY Disney did such a thing. There's just not ONE logical explanation.
You remember what the movie looked in theaters nineteen years ago? That's some photographic memory you have there. Memory can be faulty, so that's not to be trusted. All we can go by were the VHS and Laserdisc editions, and I wouldn't trust those either. That doesn't mean the dvd was right, obviously.
The trailers looked fine to me, but that doesn't say anything with Disney's earlier trailers as guidelines. Many of the trailers for the other DACs weren't using the newest restorations either.
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Post by Aqua »

I cannot wait for this Blue Ray! While I love the movie, I'm honestly looking more forward to Part 2 discussion of the Blue rAY where emotions are gonna run high and many will insist VHS/LD is better than DVD/Blue Ray and vice versa.

Did some searching on past discussion threads on Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio and Snow White and they're major LOLz and got quite a chucke from me.

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REINIER - You did that?! That's VERY nice. I mean, sure, if we're being ridiculously picky I could say a few things, but you really managed to get the whole feel of the movie right. Nice job!! Did you do that background also?
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REINIER wrote:Image
WOW! :o :shock: :jawdrop:

You made that yourself!? That's amazing.
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KubrickFan wrote:
Goliath wrote:I didn't mean to start a new discussion about the colors, so you all don't have to overreact to it. I just wanted to know if the colors in the trailer for the DE were correct, and you know with that, I mean the theatrical version. We all know for a fact that the colors on the PE were nothing like the theatrical version. I still have no idea WHY Disney did such a thing. There's just not ONE logical explanation.
You remember what the movie looked in theaters nineteen years ago? That's some photographic memory you have there. Memory can be faulty, so that's not to be trusted. All we can go by were the VHS and Laserdisc editions, and I wouldn't trust those either. That doesn't mean the dvd was right, obviously.
The trailers looked fine to me, but that doesn't say anything with Disney's earlier trailers as guidelines. Many of the trailers for the other DACs weren't using the newest restorations either.
We also have the PATF Trailer to go by, which used the digital files.

And Reinier, that's a very nice panoramic! :D
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REINIER wrote:I once did this small panorama
Now I know most of you here can probably do way better but nonetheless I had fun trying :oops:

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I like that a lot actually. :D
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The new cover art is actually quite good... save for Belle. She's horribly, horribly off-model. They basically copied Snow White's (also off-model) face from this cover and pasted it onto Belle's head. Oh, and the fact that she apparently grew about two feet in height. But hey, I guess that's what happens when you get hit by a mete-- oops, wrong movie.

About the border-around-the-title-thingy (which I actually prefer to the title-over-the-background approach): I noticed this trend that if a previous edition had it, the new one won't - i.e. Snow White PE vs. DE, Mulan GE vs. SE. etc. BatB was the only Platinum without it, so they're kind of making up for it now, uniformity be damned.

And while we're at it (and I'm sorry to bring this up since everyone else dreads this topic): I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer the look and feel of the DVD version. The only instance where I felt the colors were a bit off was the ballroom sequence (too yellow-red-ish). Other than that, the movie looks amazing and it perfectly matches Aladdin's, Lion King's and Little Mermaid's DVD presentation.
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Mooky wrote:The new cover art is actually quite good... save for Belle. She's horribly, horribly off-model. They basically copied Snow White's (also off-model) face from this cover and pasted it onto Belle's head. Oh, and the fact that she apparently grew about two feet in height. But hey, I guess that's what happens when you get hit by a mete-- oops, wrong movie.
The faces look very different. Same expression, different features.
About the border-around-the-title-thingy (which I actually prefer to the title-over-the-background approach): I noticed this trend that if a previous edition had it, the new one won't - i.e. Snow White PE vs. DE, Mulan GE vs. SE. etc. BatB was the only Platinum without it, so they're kind of making up for it now, uniformity be damned.
you're right!:o
And while we're at it (and I'm sorry to bring this up since everyone else dreads this topic): I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer the look and feel of the DVD version. The only instance where I felt the colors were a bit off was the ballroom sequence (too yellow-red-ish). Other than that, the movie looks amazing and it perfectly matches Aladdin's, Lion King's and Little Mermaid's DVD presentation.
For the most part, I agree, but the scenes where we first see the Beast in shadow lose much of their impact.
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lol, those three girls on the left are Huuuuge in relation to the envirnment.
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Will Beauty and the Beast have a Limited Collector's Set like Snow White did(the red box). Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find any information on this. Perhaps all movies in the diamond edition will have a Limited Collector's Set?
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Highly doubtful. Disney never likes to spend money. In the platinum line, Collector Sets were few-only 3-and Snow White only got a massive one simply because it's the first Feature in the canon.
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ajmrowland wrote:Highly doubtful. Disney never likes to spend money. In the platinum line, Collector Sets were few-only 3-and Snow White only got a massive one simply because it's the first Feature in the canon.
Appreciate it. That's too bad. Plus it seems, based on availability, that the Snow White Collector's Set didn't exactly fly off the selves.
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I would like a collector's set along the lines of the Aladdin/Lion King/Cinderella collector's sets. The Snow White collector's set with the book was nice (I didn't get it but still.) but I would have rathered it come with more than just the book.
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The_Iceflash wrote:I would like a collector's set along the lines of the Aladdin/Lion King/Cinderella collector's sets. The Snow White collector's set with the book was nice (I didn't get it but still.) but I would have rathered it come with more than just the book.
Well the largest collector's set (the red box) comes with pins, lithos, Cert. of Authenticity, and the book.
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Raindown wrote:
The_Iceflash wrote:I would like a collector's set along the lines of the Aladdin/Lion King/Cinderella collector's sets. The Snow White collector's set with the book was nice (I didn't get it but still.) but I would have rathered it come with more than just the book.
Well the largest collector's set (the red box) comes with pins, lithos, Cert. of Authenticity, and the book.
True but the price was a turn-off. :wink:
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KubrickFan wrote:
You remember what the movie looked in theaters nineteen years ago? That's some photographic memory you have there. Memory can be faulty, so that's not to be trusted. All we can go by were the VHS and Laserdisc editions, and I wouldn't trust those either. That doesn't mean the dvd was right, obviously.
Yes I do. And if you don't believe me;

We do know that the screenshots in the making of books, the collectors cards in the cinema's, the official screens of the promotional material, EVERYTHING that we still have today from when the film came out looked EXACTLY like the film in theatres. Because no one ever noticed the slightest difference, including myself. If there would be the tiniest difference in colors, I would have noticed it at that time. I was watching and studying all the material every day and going to the film in the cinema was a big happening.

So the film looked exactly like all the material. And everything I still have today (about 20 sources) still all looks the same. Or are you saying that every single piece has faded in the exact same way?

Let's get real.
People may like the version, but it's different, no question about it.

My biggest problem is that it looks cheaper and more "sequel like".

And that's that, and there is no discussion possible about this subject. 8)
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I love the Diamond DVD sized case. Couldn't they have down that for P&TF? :roll:
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