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qindarka wrote:I know he has been speaking a lot of shit but we don't have to retaliate in kind. It's easy to be gracious in victory.
Exactly. Let's not stoop to the level he has been talking. Two wrongs do not equal a right. There's an old phrase I try to live by, Kill them with kindness.
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Avoiding all these troll posts probably, though we might get his opinion soon enough.

I am glad Obama made it through.
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I was sad, but I prayed, and my joy is in Christ. My faith is in God. I'm still very disappointed, but my Lord is the same yesterday, today and Forever! His will be done.

Congrats to all my Democrat friends on your victory.

Also to my friends who are under doctor's care for severe diseases like Crohn's, and other medical things I wish you well if Obamacare gets put into force in 2014. It will not be a cake walk like so many of you think. I am in total fear of what it is going to do to my health situation. My doctors are not painting a very bright picture for 2014 and beyond.
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Wasn't today the day you'd be telling all of us dumb, young people that the country made the right choice and all that jazz? No more long-winded, hateful speech about "Obamao" and a million links from your "reputable news sources"?

My, how the mighty have fallen. Lol

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Wall St has taken a plunge and the economic news from Europe is grim. Obama won but has the country lost?
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carolinakid wrote:Wall St has taken a plunge and the economic news from Europe is grim. Obama won but has the country lost?
Its probably over concerns on trying to avoid the fiscal cliff that is coming up soon.

I have mixed feelings over the election last night. I'm not surprised that Obama won, but I don't think his 2nd term will be any different than the 1st. I really don't see how myself and my family will financially survive 4 more years of Obama. However I didn't see any real difference that Romney would have made either.

I feel like we had 2 weak choices this year, and I pray that 2016 is better.
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2016 will be Hillary v Christie, imo.
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You people do realize that the economy is improving, right? The only reason people think it hasn't is because it is increasing at very slow rate. But none-the-less, it is improving. The unemployment rate has gone down too.
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I have seen improvement as well. And yes, its slow, but that is to be expected. No ONE man is a miracle worker. I believe from the beginning it would take more than 4 years to fix it. I am glad Obama did stay in office because someone new, on the opposing side, would likely put us right back in the same hole before digging us out again, if at all.
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Siren wrote:I have seen improvement as well. And yes, its slow, but that is to be expected. No ONE man is a miracle worker. I believe from the beginning it would take more than 4 years to fix it. I am glad Obama did stay in office because someone new, on the opposing side, would likely put us right back in the same hole before digging us out again, if at all.
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I hope so. My stock portfolio/retirement depends on it!
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There is no need for those of you who insist on using foul language. Once again I will tell you that it shows your lack of education and lack of respect for others who read these threads that might be offended.

I have said all I can say, I congratulated those of you who exercised your right to vote, and for those who just troll these threads so you can use foul language, need to pull your head out of your asses and get a life.

The stock market is falling and the results of the election are among the reasons why.

Those of you who think the economy is getting "slowly" better are in a dream world. Obama and his lame duck congress now can let all of those tax cuts go over the "cliff", and he can start "ruling" the US as everyone has predicted. I only hope that our House of Representatives can hold his spending down and make him look at things from a different angle. He probably won't, but I will pray that he does.

Disneyboy20022 and others who are under doctor's care for certain malady's, need to start asking question about "What happens in 2014 when Obamacare goes into effect." I have already asked that question many different times and received the same answer, and it is not a pretty picture that is printed.

Now let's get on with what is left of our lives, and try to stay out of each other's way and do the best we can. If you have a good job, keep it, if you are still in school, learn all you can, and make sure there is a job out there for what you are studying for. Four years from now we will see how we stand, if we can.
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Pot meet kettle.

Just a few pages ago people were being called "libtards"...but now you have a thing ahainst foul language. It is sad one of our "elders" has their head so far up their ass that they think their shit doesn't stink, only because you got.use to.the smell.
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DarthPrime wrote: I have mixed feelings over the election last night. I'm not surprised that Obama won, but I don't think his 2nd term will be any different than the 1st. I really don't see how myself and my family will financially survive 4 more years of Obama.
Exact same predicament for me as well, and I am terrified because of it.

They say that there has been improvement, but during the course of four years, I have seen absolutely nothing of it. Not where I'm from, at least. Financially, 2013 looks like a grim time, both for me and my mom. If we're unable to find a job by that time, we may very well be homeless. :(
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dvdjunkie wrote:There is no need for those of you who insist on using foul language. Once again I will tell you that it shows your lack of education and lack of respect for others who read these threads that might be offended.

and for those who just troll these threads so you can use foul language, need to pull your head out of your asses and get a life.
Oh please, junkie. You should be the last person lecturing on us over that as you done it yourself. Unlike us, who used swear word in the term of exaggerated context, you used name calling directly at us. So shut it.
Also, no one is offended over curse words,

dvdjunkie wrote:The stock market is falling and the results of the election are among the reasons why.
Uhh no. Considering I live in NYC, the reason the stock market is out atm is because of the storm. I don't think you realize how fucked up NYC's downtown half got due to the storm. Wall St and neighboring areas of NYC Stock exchange got practically floored by flood. And because of that it been close for long while.

The election barely have anything to do with this. wtf you get this stuff?


dvdjunkie wrote:Those of you who think the economy is getting "slowly" better are in a dream world.
uhhh no. The reason this is true is because of the mathematical statistics and charts that been showing so. They been showing that many private sectors have been improving and increasing.
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What the chart shows is that Obama inherited a bum economy but that, under his watch, things have begun to turn around. In the past year, the unemployment rate has dropped a full percentage point amid improving job growth. Assuming those trends continue, Obama will be able to say that, yes, the economy needs to be much stronger, but that it's currently heading in the right direction. That exact pitch helped Reagan win his 1984 reelection bid when he destroyed Walter Mondale —Mondale carried only his home state of Minnesota and Washington D.C. — despite an unemployment rate of 7.4% on election day. One year earlier, unemployment stood at 8.8%, higher than it is today, but it then steadily ticked down over the following months.
this chart was posted by a conservative. A real Conservative, Andrew Sullivan.

You're in denial is more like it, like Karl Rove is atm.

dvdjunkie wrote:Obama and his lame duck congress now can let all of those tax cuts go over the "cliff", and he can start "ruling" the US as everyone has predicted.
And you say we're delusional? Going to "rule" USA? Seriously you really are so out of touch.

Tax raise will actually boom the economy and tax raise also help the government be able to pay off debt better. Did you not learn anything in history? Even in 1950's during Eisenhower's terms, the taxes were raise at ridiculous height and yet their economy were prospering. Obama done the spending mostly in his first term. Now he can focus help reduce the deficit and debt as well as help boom the economy. Had Romney been in office, no doubt he would pursue in Military spending( especially how much he advocate to go after Iran) and yet go for big tax cuts. That's not economically smart and was the why we were in this crisis to begin with from Bush's. Having big tax cuts yet huge military spending is very poor decision and makes no sense. Is that what you want?

dvdjunkie wrote:I only hope that our House of Representatives can hold his spending down and make him look at things from a different angle. He probably won't, but I will pray that he does.
Actually the spending he mostly did was done in his first term. not that he got them out of the way like Affordable Health-care Act, I bet you that he now he won't be needing to to spend all that much now other than help pay the huge debt off and reducing the deficit. He cut down on military spending already.

dvdjunkie wrote:Now let's get on with what is left of our lives, and try to stay out of each other's way and do the best we can. If you have a good job, keep it, if you are still in school, learn all you can, and make sure there is a job out there for what you are studying for. Four years from now we will see how we stand, if we can.
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disneyboy20022 wrote:
qindarka wrote:I know he has been speaking a lot of shit but we don't have to retaliate in kind. It's easy to be gracious in victory.
Exactly. Let's not stoop to the level he has been talking. Two wrongs do not equal a right. There's an old phrase I try to live by, Kill them with kindness.
But effectively by posting in a public forum, he's made aware of people saying "we shouldnt stoop to his level" which could be hurtful to him.

But nwith regards to swearing showing a "lack of education". Fact: a lot of writers who went to harvard got jobs working on The Simpsons. They joke about that occassionally in the commentaries, but it shows how educated people are comfortable with acting "uneducated" even to the general viewing public. On a different level, Stephen Colbert does that(through his persona) and John Stewart swears alot but he's still taken seriously, especially for a "fake" news reporter.
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dvdjunkie wrote:There is no need for those of you who insist on using foul language. Once again I will tell you that it shows your lack of education and lack of respect for others who read these threads that might be offended.
1. Pott meet kettle.

2. So what did you study? Serious question.
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ajmrowland wrote: but it shows how educated people are comfortable with acting "uneducated" even to the general viewing public. On a different level, Stephen Colbert does that(through his persona) and John Stewart swears alot but he's still taken seriously, especially for a "fake" news reporter.
Yeah considering Jon Stewart graduated from William and Mary, a very well respected and smart school.
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Barbossa wrote:Now I want to know... when is Disney buying the White House? After they seal the Hasbro deal? :D
Well they're competing with Goldman Sachs. I guess if they can buy out Wall Street's share of Obama maybe.

4 billion seems to be Disney's going rate.

Also, I can't tell from that chart Super Aurora posted. What kind of jobs are we talking about here? Are they temporary? Do they pay as well as the unemployed's previous jobs or are they jobs that they're overqualified for which require either a second job or some other form of government assistance? Is the unemployment rate affected by the number of people who gave up on looking for new jobs or have simply been cut off from unemployment? What about people who kept their jobs but have lost benefits and taken pay reductions, has any of that improved? How about those people who haven't seen a raise in years and can't keep up with the cost of living increases and inflation? Note: These are actual questions, since I haven't been keeping up with this shit at all.
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