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atlanticaunderthesea i bought my edition on play.com and it wasn't so expensive, did you see it in there?
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Yeah, got mine for £15 in the end. Just too expensive otherwise ! Is it worth still keeping my '2 Disc Special Edition' DVD do you guys think ?
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ajmrowland wrote:Huston, we have Disc Art.

But seriously, those are mostly lovely, even though the slipcover is stolen right from the platinum edition
The US release will probably be plain gray and blue discs. I've noticed recent titles that have no disc art in the US, have gotten them in the UK and other countries.
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DarthPrime wrote:
ajmrowland wrote:Huston, we have Disc Art.

But seriously, those are mostly lovely, even though the slipcover is stolen right from the platinum edition
The US release will probably be plain gray and blue discs. I've noticed recent titles that have no disc art in the US, have gotten them in the UK and other countries.
I wonder why that is ?? Normally it's you guys that get it and we don't.....

Though we now don't get the nice book packages anymore, and that's annoying.
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First off I will say I have been a way from this forum for quite some time (rather I've become more of a lurker than a poster) but I felt compelled to come here to vent over my frustration regarding Cinderella's UK release! The fact that Combo packs have been dropped in the UK is bad enough but Disney in my opinion have really done a half baked job releasing this film on Blu. Personally I think the cover's okay, I mean the characters may not be completely on model but I still find it aesthetically pleasing but the content offered is mediocre at best. Whilst I'm happy the features from the Platinum DVD have been ported over and that Tangled Ever After has been included, the disc offers very little in terms of new content especially when compared to Snow White's Bluray. This might just be me but for one of Disney's most revered and iconic films in it's entire (not just animated) canon this release is very underwhelming, I don't know about the US or anywhere else in the world but here in the UK there has been minimal advertising for this release at best which I find really surprising, is there a reason it has been released so early over here in the UK? Normally we get things later not earlier, that I am happy about but I would have happily waited longer but it just seems to have a very rushed feel to it. Don't get me wrong I am extremely happy to add this to my small but ever growing BluRay collection but it just doesn't seem to do the film justice, I hope The Little Mermaid doesn't suffer the same fate because I am so excited for it's Diamond release. Might just be me that feels this way but it sure feels good to vent to other Disney fans ^_^

Does anyone know if the Cinderella II/Cinderella III-2 Movie BluRay will be released in the UK and if so when? Cinderella III is one of my favourite Disney sequels and I would really like to buy the two pack :)
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DarthPrime wrote:
ajmrowland wrote:Huston, we have Disc Art.

But seriously, those are mostly lovely, even though the slipcover is stolen right from the platinum edition
The US release will probably be plain gray and blue discs. I've noticed recent titles that have no disc art in the US, have gotten them in the UK and other countries.
it's a diamond edition, so the rules dont necessarily apply.
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ajmrowland wrote:it's a diamond edition, so the rules dont necessarily apply.
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^assuming that's the US release and even so, not just a promotional image.

But that's the first time I've seen the jewelry box and I like it.
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ajmrowland wrote:^assuming that's the US release and even so, not just a promotional image.

But that's the first time I've seen the jewelry box and I like it.
I just think Disney US is much more careful on showing the exact product they are gonna sell some months earlier. In comparison

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^understandable.
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Meh. It looks like I'll hold off getting this release for a few months, if at all. As much as I'd love to get this on Blu-Ray, I kinda also don't see the point considering how clearly little effort has been put into it. That's the same reason why I haven't got Bambi, Lady and the Tramp or The Lion King on Blu-Ray; I love the films, but I don't see the point when I feel there's nothing much more the Blu-Rays can offer except HD picture. Anyway, it'll probably be most likely that Cinderella will get reduced in the UK sales just after Christmas, or it could even indeed end up in one of Disney's Buy-One-Get-One-Free offers sooner rather than later (unless, of course, they ditch BOGOF in favour of something silly like "Disney's Magical Gifts" :roll:).
miklc wrote:First off I will say I have been a way from this forum for quite some time (rather I've become more of a lurker than a poster) but I felt compelled to come here to vent over my frustration regarding Cinderella's UK release! The fact that Combo packs have been dropped in the UK is bad enough but Disney in my opinion have really done a half baked job releasing this film on Blu. Personally I think the cover's okay, I mean the characters may not be completely on model but I still find it aesthetically pleasing but the content offered is mediocre at best. Whilst I'm happy the features from the Platinum DVD have been ported over and that Tangled Ever After has been included, the disc offers very little in terms of new content especially when compared to Snow White's Bluray. This might just be me but for one of Disney's most revered and iconic films in it's entire (not just animated) canon this release is very underwhelming, I don't know about the US or anywhere else in the world but here in the UK there has been minimal advertising for this release at best which I find really surprising, is there a reason it has been released so early over here in the UK? Normally we get things later not earlier, that I am happy about but I would have happily waited longer but it just seems to have a very rushed feel to it.
Just a quick question - what are the new bonus features actually like? I've tried finding a UK review online but all I could fine was a rather incomprehensible Amazon review. :roll: :lol:

I can understand your frustration, though. To think that a mere two years ago with Beauty and the Beast, they could actually use the Blu-Ray technology to provide a truly enhanced experience as far as bonus features were concerned. As far as I'm aware, the US release will be the same as the UK release (aside from some differing technical specs such as language choices, of course), so that will be just as rushed despite debuting a bit later. I also did think that releasing Cinderella in August seemed a bit odd. I know it was originally supposed to come out in September, which would have made a bit more sense for what is really quite a big film. Maybe they've released it now because people may be spreading out their Christmas shopping a bit more (i.e. earlier) in the light of the economic climate? Also could it have something to do with the constant stream of catalogue releases they're bringing out? In any case, I've really little idea. I suppose the lack of advertising could be down to less interest in Blu-Ray and DVD as opposed to five years ago. Even so, considering how much Lady and the Tramp seemed to be advertised earlier this year, it is a bit strange.
miklc wrote:Does anyone know if the Cinderella II/Cinderella III-2 Movie BluRay will be released in the UK and if so when? Cinderella III is one of my favourite Disney sequels and I would really like to buy the two pack :)
I can imagine it will be released soon enough. Didn't the Lion King sequels not come out until after the original had been out for a few weeks?
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I totally and utterly agree with your post Wonderlicious; could not have said it better.

And their laziness even extends to their websites now: http://www.disney.co.uk/cinderella/#trailer

I remember the days when they launched a film on home release, the websites were awesome and really interactive. Obviously not so much any more.
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It's annoying the fact that when it was first released, Twist In Time was merely that, 'Cinderella: A Twist In Time'. Now it has become like the US and called 'Cinderella III: A Twist In Time'.

Why the change ?
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Wonderlicious wrote:Just a quick question - what are the new bonus features actually like? I've tried finding a UK review online but all I could fine was a rather incomprehensible Amazon review. :roll: :lol:
Personally I think they're alright but nothing to shout from the roof top about, the bonus features from the Platinum DVD make up the bulk of the features anyway and they're far more engaging (from what I remember, haven't watched them in a long time only watched the "new" features as of yet). Tangled Ever After however is a very welcome addition really happy they added that and that I finally got to see it! What I can say is I watched the film itself last night and it was breathtakingly beautiful in HD so no complaints there, which is the most important thing after all
Wonderlicious wrote:I can understand your frustration, though. To think that a mere two years ago with Beauty and the Beast, they could actually use the Blu-Ray technology to provide a truly enhanced experience as far as bonus features were concerned. As far as I'm aware, the US release will be the same as the UK release (aside from some differing technical specs such as language choices, of course), so that will be just as rushed despite debuting a bit later. I also did think that releasing Cinderella in August seemed a bit odd. I know it was originally supposed to come out in September, which would have made a bit more sense for what is really quite a big film. Maybe they've released it now because people may be spreading out their Christmas shopping a bit more (i.e. earlier) in the light of the economic climate? Also could it have something to do with the constant stream of catalogue releases they're bringing out? In any case, I've really little idea. I suppose the lack of advertising could be down to less interest in Blu-Ray and DVD as opposed to five years ago. Even so, considering how much Lady and the Tramp seemed to be advertised earlier this year, it is a bit strange.
Yeah the August release just makes no sense to me but your theory about the economic climate and people buying early for Christmas is a very plausible explanation, I guess I just feel it would have been more of an event had it been released in October/November time. The lack of advertising makes no sense to me but the film should no doubt fly of shelves regardless simply because of it's iconic status, well if the general public are even aware it's been released from the Vault that is
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miklc wrote:Does anyone know if the Cinderella II/Cinderella III-2 Movie BluRay will be released in the UK and if so when? Cinderella III is one of my favourite Disney sequels and I would really like to buy the two pack :)
I can imagine it will be released soon enough. Didn't the Lion King sequels not come out until after the original had been out for a few weeks?


Ah yes I haven't picked up either of the LK sequels on Blu yet though I plan on getting them very soon, I figured they would be releasing them outside of the trilogy soon enough but I was praying that they would be released in a 2-Movie collection on one BD disc like the US was getting and the YouTube review of the trilogy has pretty much confirmed this for me so I'm very happy about that! I own the majority of the animated sequels of DVD but there are only a select few that I plan to upgrade to Blu and the Cinderella "sequels" are some of the few I plan on upgrading, the rest I'm more than fine keeping on DVD (hoping that Mermaid's and Aladdin's sequels will also be released in 1 BD disc 2-Movie collections) :D
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:It's annoying the fact that when it was first released, Twist In Time was merely that, 'Cinderella: A Twist In Time'. Now it has become like the US and called 'Cinderella III: A Twist In Time'.

Why the change ?
I completely agree with you! Even the opening of the actual movie itself doesn't have a "III" in the logo in the UK release, I'm annoyed that they've changed this for the re-release. I guess it's because I don't really class it as the third movie because "II" isn't much of a movie itself more a collection of tales plus the Anastasia segment of "II" clearly takes place after the events of "III" so yeah I find the numerals annoying. :roll:

I kind of wish they would stop marketing "II" as a sequel, change the title to simply Cinderella: Dreams Come True and simply call it a collection of tales, that would make so much sense (IMO that is!). The reason I am happy that the two are being bundled together on the one BD disc is because if they weren't I would have felt compelled to buy "II" despite not liking it simply to "complete the collection", so having them on the one disc means I'm only paying the one price- not to mention I love the artwork, I can totally imagine how they could do a similar composition for Mermaid's sequels having the image of Ariel from the cover of AB in the centre. After watching the original last night I felt compelled to watch a Twist in Time as it had been a long time since I seen it, forgot how good the movie is and can't wait to have it on Blu as well :D
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I was just thinking ..... it must be for cheapness, adding the 'III' onto our version of the film, so they can be uniform around the world ??

The double collection of the sequels has the same packaging in the US and UK does it not? So it avoids the costing of reproducing the covers.

That could be me being really rude about Disney, but it makes sense. Even in the voiceovers of our trailers for 'Twist In Time' didn't mention the 'III'. SO irritating ! Especially if it still the same on the actual film itself!

And I completely agree about dropping the 'II' as well miklc. In fact, I agree with the sentiments in your post completely. :)
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Two questions:

1. The pics Lnds500 posted on the previous page are of this set, right?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cinderella-Box- ... 837&sr=1-4

2. What are, if any, the chances of sequels being released individually (i.e. two separate cases/discs) or is this how their upcoming release outside the gift-set/trilogy collection will look like? The lack of uniformity between releases of these two and other Disney sequels bothers me, so I'm wondering if I should get the trilogy set or hold off for possible separate releases of C2 and C3.
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They will be released alone, yes, probably in a few months ? A la The Lady and the Tramp II. That was in an awful looking boxset with the original.

What was the time frame for The Lion King sequels ? Though I don't think the two sequels were packaged together like cinderella has been.
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http://www.amazon.fr/Cendrillon-Ilene-W ... 814&sr=8-9

I think this is actually a beautiful cover....are dare I say it, original artwork ?
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