Tangled (aka Rapunzel) Discussion - Part III

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I'm glad the doll doesn't just look like 'Barbie as Rapunzel.' The eyes look like the character, and I like how they gave her a rounded/freckled face.
Sure, the older painting looks unique and more artistic and classy, but the changing of the outfits and colors have nothing to do with more or less being an adult, or sexual meanings or by comparison to Gothel!
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Well, it's hard to say if it does/doesn't have something to do with it until the film's been released. Obviously they probably wanted to change it because of Tiana (and wise, because that dress could never top Tiana's), but the new color could've been chosen for more than palette reasons.

The only depressing thing is that they had to pick my least favorite shade of purple. I would've rather had something a little deeper/warmer (maybe along the same lines as Megara, or maybe even darker). It probably would've been better if they just went all the way, and made it pink. But then she really would look too similar to Aurora.

Anyway, I thought that "How to Draw" for the thief was a really nice picture of that character. But I was wondering...what was the name of the thief again? I keep thinking Bastion, but I know they changed that a while ago.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Anyway, I thought that "How to Draw" for the thief was a really nice picture of that character. But I was wondering...what was the name of the thief again? I keep thinking Bastion, but I know they changed that a while ago.
Flynn. :) As in...
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http://www.disney.fr/raiponce/
http://www.disneypixar.fr/raiponce/

Forgive me for showing you this. I found a French website for Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)." It is called Disney's, "Raiponce," French for, "Rapunzel."
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^didnt you see the french tangled poster? It had "Raiponce" on it too.
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But Prince Kido, her outfit changed more than just the color. It must have been for some reason... But your favorite color range is my favorite color range, too! Well, actually maybe purple to indigo to blue...

Animalia, the rapunzel flower is usually a purple that ranges from pinkish to bluish, but in this film it is gold because it is magic and came from the sun. Unless it's not the rapunzel flower at all which would make no sense and I would be very mad!

If Rapunzel's outfit had been green, it would have fit because it would have been the color of either rapunzel lettuce or the leaves of the flower, and Rapunzel's face would be the flower or her hair would be the gold flower.
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I know most of you guys don't believe this Spanish/Mexican site
but this is what there saying
http://disneynoticiasmexico.blogspot.co ... l/Rapunzel


The coin is in the air. After seven YEARS OF smoothly, the Disney version of Rapunzel "Entangled" is almost complete and you just have to see the results they generate at the box office and critical. But it is just money you can raise on which depends the future of Walt Disney Animation, the studio has been the backbone of the company, and that after a time of failure that lasted almost the entire decade, little has been recovered Bolt and The Princess and the Frog. But for WDAS again Antania take the place of industry, you need a hit to generate at least more than 400 million dollars worldwide. We are talking about who should get about 150 million dollars in the U.S. and 250 worldwide . The Princess and the Frog, despite being an excellent film not successful. The bad news is that although there is Winnie the Pooh in 2011 and King of the Elves 2013, when Rapunzel does not stick, there will be another Disney until 2015 because executives need confidence to invest in a bigger production in terms of animators and technicians in order to bring us in 2012 or 2014. The draft Musker and Clements are tentatively premiere in 2012, but if Rapunzel fails, it could even be canceled.

I know some of the translation is bad (but thats what you get when you use Google Chrome :D )

Well really the message is right its up to the US to make sure Tangled opens on a high note to secure the future of the studios. I'm from UK so really we can really influence the movie (especially when it comes out in 2011 :cry: )
But really looking back at all the box office records Disney is not making nearly enough as Pixar. which is a real shame considering Disney has a more magical feel.
But the artical is saying if Tangled doesn't make 400,000,000 + there wont be another film from the studious untill 2015 :o
So it's up to us to make sure Tangled does the best it can and i believe it could beet HTTYD in the box office.
If the US builds it up to be brilliant I'm sure the rest of the world will follow. :)
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DisneyDude2010 wrote:But the artical is saying if Tangled doesn't make 400,000,000 + there wont be another film from the studious untill 2015 :o
and a gnome walked into my living room yesterday and told me it needs to make $412,984,321 million worldwide excluding dvd and rental sales.

That Mexican site is just making things up out of thin air. Some random nobody on the TAG blog says Disney is scaling back to 1 movie every 2 years, and that site just turned that into an entire article filled with rumors and unchecked facts. I'm sure Disney has a specific number in mind that they want to see Tangled cross, but do you really think they're going to let the internet community in on their business strategies? Most of the artists aren't even aware of Disney's game plan. So then why would we, or some mexican blog know anything at all?
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I read that site, and I decided to not post it, because it does not interest me. I understand that Disney needs the money to put on another production, but that depends if people believe that Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," will be a good movie or not. To me it will probably do good, but not too good. Oh and I hate to say this, I do not know if this movie could make $400,000,000 worldwide. It is going to take hard work to make up a profit like that. I am sure that Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," will do well, but will it defeat, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1?" That depends when it shoots out in theaters. I will say this, it could defeat DreamWorks Animation's, "Megamind," maybe.
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PatrickvD wrote:That Mexican site is just making things up out of thin air.
+1. I wish you'd stop spamming this board with their creative writing.

Besides, regardless of what the Disney plan is this week, it's going to change at least a few dozen times between now and 2012 as economic conditions change, executives are replaced, new fads become popular, zodiacs are realigned, etc.

Tangled's success or lack thereof will be a big factor in the planning. Until we see how that pans out, everything is just speculation anyway. Even if it does come from the Disney boardroom. (Or some kid in a Mexican basement.)
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^^^^
Ummm .... I have only posted something from that site once and thats it above - I never said i believed it I just hope Tangled does well Ok .
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I saw Rapunzel dolls at Wal-mart two days ago. Flynn's doll was pictured on the backcards of the big dolls but there weren't any Flynns on the shelves. I want one! Maybe I should have thoroughly checked the boys' toy section for him. (Kidding about that last line) :P
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From a recent interview with Dean Wellins:
http://www.awn.com/articles/short-films ... page/3%2C1

BD: Did you stay on at all to contribute to Tangled?

DW: Just some storyboard stuff in their last go-around.

BD: A lot of changes. What was it like?

DW: It's a way different version now. What Glen wanted to do was a straight, sincere fairy tale with music. But the original fairy tale was really dark. But I think for John, in looking at it, the dark to light scale was a little too much; and I think after The Princess and the Frog and seeing what could be done with a musical these days and revitalizing that sort of thing, they decided they wanted to do that.
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DisneyDude2010 wrote:^^^^
Ummm .... I have only posted something from that site once and thats it above - I never said i believed it I just hope Tangled does well Ok .
Oops, sorry. :oops:
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http://disneynoticiasmexico.blogspot.co ... l/Rapunzel

I understand that some of you still do not trust this site, but it says that new characters have been revealed from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)."



SUNDAY AUGUST 22, 2010

Names of more characters in Rapunzel

Also of Rapunzel, Flynn, Maximus, Pascal, and the villainous Madame Gothel, the adaptation of the famous fairy tale of the Brothers Grimm is full of new characters. A very peculiar pair are brother Stabbington, enemies of occupation of Flynn Ryder and already we have seen in the trailer official. But in addition, the tavern is full of thugs looking for Vikings, as Attila, Hector, Nose and Tor. All of them, despite their rough-looking are very different from what you might expect to find in the Snuggly Duckling. Rapunzel tells the story of a princess, stolen from their parents by an evil witch, who wants to leave the tower where it has been locked her whole life and know that there are those mysterious lights that appear in the sky of the neighboring kingdom each year. With seven original songs by Alan Menken, the film arrived in theaters next November 26.
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Polizzi wrote:http://disneynoticiasmexico.blogspot.co ... l/Rapunzel

I understand that some of you still do not trust this site, but it says that new characters have been revealed from Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tangled)."



SUNDAY AUGUST 22, 2010

Names of more characters in Rapunzel

Also of Rapunzel, Flynn, Maximus, Pascal, and the villainous Madame Gothel, the adaptation of the famous fairy tale of the Brothers Grimm is full of new characters. A very peculiar pair are brother Stabbington, enemies of occupation of Flynn Ryder and already we have seen in the trailer official. But in addition, the tavern is full of thugs looking for Vikings, as Attila, Hector, Nose and Tor. All of them, despite their rough-looking are very different from what you might expect to find in the Snuggly Duckling. Rapunzel tells the story of a princess, stolen from their parents by an evil witch, who wants to leave the tower where it has been locked her whole life and know that there are those mysterious lights that appear in the sky of the neighboring kingdom each year. With seven original songs by Alan Menken, the film arrived in theaters next November 26.
If the Tangled Drawing book is to be trusted all of that is true. I don't recall Hector though. :?
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I just realized...

Tangled doesn't sound like a Best Picture Oscar Nominated film.

Animalia, maybe they made Rapunzel 18 because they didn't want her to be too young for marrying. I've heard people complain about the past princesses marrying too young. I also think she should be 16, but whatever.
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NOT SEVEN SONGS : ONLY FIVE !!!

There is no room enough in the synopsis for 7 songs !

1/Introducing Prelude Song (title ?) Unknown Style

2/Rapunzel Wish Song ("When Will My Life Begin ?") Bouncy Guitar Joni Mitchell Style

3/Villain Gothel Song ("Mommy Knows Best") Broadway Style

4/Festy Viking Tavern Song (title ?) Celtic Gig Style

5/Love Song on the lake around the Castle ("I See The Light(s)") Romantic Ballad Guitar Style

Well, maybe, one or two reprises here or there. I wish so ! Menken is so gifted for reprises....
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^There's already a confirmed song by Flynn called "I Don't Sing"
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Poody wrote:^There's already a confirmed song by Flynn called "I Don't Sing"
There was no such song in the test screening I saw. That rumor came from a Comic-Con attendee IIRC, and from the sound of things, he was actually seeing a clip from the tavern number.

And Edthehyena - don't take that synopsis as gospel. It's based partially on rumors as well. it's wrong in some areas and missing stuff in others. That having been said, 5 songs (not counting reprises) sounds about right. I'm not recalling anything other than what you listed. But it's been several months.

There is at least one awesome reprise. :)
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You are right mawnck !

"I Don't Sing" is juste something Flynn says during the yet untitled Tavern Song, it's just a line. It's a piece of the lyric during that song. He's very surprised to see the charming and naive Rapunzel not afraid at all by all the huge dirty scary guys around, and her magic and singing so incredible that all those viking guys start dancing on the table and sing their own secret dreams... but Flynn must find it too sissy so he tries to resist and affirm "No ! Not me, i dont sing...." But i guess that he will sing or even dance by the end of that "Gaston/Be our Guest" style musical number...

The confirmed songs are the ones i mentionned above. The confirmed titles are "Mother Knows Best", "When Will my Lige Begin" and "I see the Lights".
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