Disenchanted

[D82]

I have mixed feelings on having a twist villain though. On the one hand, satirizing Disney and Pixar's twist villain trope would be fitting and fun, on the other having a twist villain, even for the purposes of parody, would deprive us of a satisfying and well-rounded character.

Maybe they could include a joke about it instead, but have a traditional villain.

[Disney Duster]

I really hope they don't bring her back. I don't want another "climax" where she says awful final boss level one liners.

Whatever they do, I just hope they make it good. I wouldn't mind a twist villain if they make it good, and it would be funny because of the Disney trope, like other said.

[DisneyFan97]

I rewatced Enchanted with mom today. It's one of my mother's all time favorite movies !!

In case you wondering my mom turned 50 last week !

That should prove the movie has real broad appeal !

My mother is my favourite person in the whole world !!!

I LOVE HER SO MUCH

[rodrigo_ca]

Happy birthday to your mom, DisneyFan97! It's also one of my favourite movies of all time.

[Disney Duster]

That's so awesome, DisneyFan97! I bet your mom is so happy to have you in her life.

[Redadoodles]

I just hope that the animation in this will be superior to the one that was seen in the original.
I've always found the animation of the opening to be mediocre at best and I even think that the animation seen in Cinderella III was more appealing and less crude than the one from Enchanted...
Of course that is due to the fact that James Baxter had very little resources (both in cash and artists) when he was assigned to produce that part of the film and he also had to wear several hats at the same time.
Hopefully we'll get something better now that Disney is aware that Enchanted is a beloved classic and therefore a sequel is deserving of a bigger investment in its animation, especially when it could literally create more jobs and save the 2D department of the studio.

[Sotiris]

I just hope that the animation in this will be superior to the one that was seen in the original.

You sure have high expectations. I'm just praying it matches the quality of the original. The sequel being a Disney+ original which usually means less budget and lower production values, coupled with scarcity of 2D animators and studios that can produce high-quality, Disney-esque animation, makes me fear that the animation quality in this one will be much lower.

[Kyle]

All movies are going to streaming now, the question I have is was it always intended for that? Will they give it less budget to work with?
I too hope for better animation than the original. Not because it was bad perse, but some of it could have been a bit more polished too. There are studios that can pull it off though.

[Sotiris]

All movies are going to streaming now, the question I have is was it always intended for that? Will they give it less budget to work with?

No, it wasn't always intended for that. The iteration by Adam Shankman was announced in 2016 and was intended for theaters. Yes, it will most likely receive a smaller budget now that it has become a Disney+ original. The first one reportedly cost $85 million while Disney+ films have a budget ranging from $20 to $60 million.

There are studios that can pull it off though.

I can only think of the Duncan Studio in the U.S. There might be other ones capable of achieving that overseas though.

[Redadoodles]

I just hope that the animation in this will be superior to the one that was seen in the original.

You sure have high expectations. I'm just praying it matches the quality of the original. The sequel being a Disney+ original which usually means less budget and lower production values, coupled with scarcity of 2D animators and studios that can produce high-quality, Disney-esque animation, makes me fear that the animation quality in this one will be much lower.

I'm sorry but I'm not buying the Disney+ excuse at all. Just look at Glen Keane's Over the moon. I mean, the animation was top notch even though it's a Netflix original production. At the end of the day, it really comes to on wether Disney execs want to be cheap or not.

[Kyle]

Top notch is overselling it (the word uneven comes to mind), but I do agree overall. It doesn't have to be a big limiting factor.

[Redadoodles]

Well, what I mean is that it rival theatrical productions such as Ballerina (2017), Red Shoes And The Seven Dwarfs (2019) or Charming (2018).

[estefan]

Klaus was made for streaming and that was stunning. I recently rewatched it, due to the holiday season, and marvelled yet again at how amazing the animation looks. I loved watching the characters, with Jesper being a particular highlight. I can see Sergio Pablos's studio being hired to do the animated sequences for "Disenchanted."

[Sotiris]

I can see Sergio Pablos's studio being hired to do the animated sequences for "Disenchanted."

Yes, SPAS is an overseas studio that could provide high-quality, Disney-type animation. The question is will Disney be willing to spend the money to hire a grade A studio for a Disney+ film or will they opt for a cheaper option?

[Redadoodles]

I don't think the money would be an issue in that case. However, copyrights, merchandising and ownership are definitely issues that would prevent Disney to work with a studio like that one.

[unprincess]

is the animation in Enchanted really considered subpar by many fans? I always thought it was fine...about as good as the other stuff the studio was doing during that decade like Brother Bear, Lilo and Stitch etc. And I loved the color range... it was colorful but not overly saturated with intense candy rainbow colors like so many CGI films tend to be.

[D82]

is the animation in Enchanted really considered subpar by many fans? I always thought it was fine...about as good as the other stuff the studio was doing during that decade like Brother Bear, Lilo and Stitch etc. And I loved the color range... it was colorful but not overly saturated with intense candy rainbow colors like so many CGI films tend to be.

I'm not an expert in animation, maybe it's true it could've been a bit more polished, but to me the animated segments in Enchanted look great. The art direction in particular is really good, in my opinion. I agree the color palette is better than in many recent movies. If the sequel has the same quality of animation, I'll be more than happy.

I'm also a bit worried, not just about the animation but the film in general, now that it was announced it's going to Disney+. Though, I'm just glad it has been finally greenlit. I rather it going to streaming than not being made at all. I know that Netflix, for example, produces movies that are really good, but I think they have a different approach than Disney. Plus, all their movies go to streaming while Disney makes movies both for theaters and Disney+. And judging by what they've done until now, it seems they save the best ones for theaters.

[Sotiris]

However, copyrights, merchandising and ownership are definitely issues that would prevent Disney to work with a studio like that one.

SPAS still does work for hire, so that wouldn't be an issue.

I'm not an expert in animation, maybe it's true it could've been a bit more polished, but to me the animated segments in Enchanted look great. The art direction in particular is really good, in my opinion. I agree the color palette is better than in many recent movies. If the sequel has the same quality of animation, I'll be more than happy.

That's how I feel too.

I'm also a bit worried, not just about the animation but the film in general, now that it was announced it's going to Disney+. Though, I'm just glad it has been finally greenlit. I rather it going to streaming than not being made at all. I know that Netflix, for example, produces movies that are really good, but I think they have a different approach than Disney. Plus, all their movies go to streaming while Disney makes movies both for theaters and Disney+. And judging by what they've done until now, it seems they save the best ones for theaters.

I'm also worried about that. None of the Disney+ original films have particularly high production values. It would be terrible for Disenchanted to have the quality of Godmothered.

[D82]

It would be terrible for Disenchanted to have the quality of Godmothered.

I agree. I'm especially worried after watching that movie.

[Jules]

I just hope that the animation in this will be superior to the one that was seen in the original.
I've always found the animation of the opening to be mediocre at best and I even think that the animation seen in Cinderella III was more appealing and less crude than the one from Enchanted...
Of course that is due to the fact that James Baxter had very little resources (both in cash and artists) when he was assigned to produce that part of the film and he also had to wear several hats at the same time.
Hopefully we'll get something better now that Disney is aware that Enchanted is a beloved classic and therefore a sequel is deserving of a bigger investment in its animation, especially when it could literally create more jobs and save the 2D department of the studio.

Hi Redadoodles! I think this is the first time I'm replying to you directly.

I'm come across this complaint regarding Enchanted's animation numerous times online, both from fans and, I believe, from actual animators. However, it has always left me a bit puzzled, as I feel unsure exactly where the animation falters. I actually watched the film again a couple of months ago, on a large screen, and while admittedly I didn't scrutinise the animation, I was once more left with a very positive impression.

By my understanding if the animation is subpar it should show in either the character movement or the character acting. I can't seem to recall that the finished animation looks sloppy or unpolished, whether we're talking the actual drawing, clean-up or the movement itself. Again, I didn't study the drawings under a microscope, but I don't recall any floaty or obviously mediocre animation, improper timing or spacing. There's a lot of lovely follow-through on hair and clothes, and the digital ink and paint work looks stellar.

If the problem is with the animation acting, that might mean that the technical aspects of the animation (i.e. all the basic principles) are actually fine, right?

I'm eager to know your thoughts!