Frog Princess found & renamed!

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:51 pm

mooky_7_sa wrote:Popularity of Disney Princess franchise had nothing to do with "The Princess and the Frog". Back in 2006, when Disney bought Pixar and John Lasseter became in charge of WDFA he started thinking of ways to bring hand-drawn animation back to Disney. And what better way to do it than with a Princess film? "Rapunzel" was already taken, so he, Musker and Clements thought of "The Frog Princess". At first they planned it to be a straight-forward telling of this Russian fairytale, but then they moved the story to New Orleans and that's the only reason why the leading lady is African-American. They most certainly didn't make her black just to please Angelina Jolies of this world.

However, the film may benefit because of popularity of Disney Princesses, and the line may benefit because people like Angelina Jolie will see that Disney isn't all about white princesses. So it's a win-win situation.

But I repeat, the initial idea behind TPatF had nothing to do with Disney Princesses.

No it's not,this movie is being made just to sell more Princess and a black girl is a perfact for them to sell more merchandise.

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:57 pm

ariel'sprince, I don't think it's like that. If Disney was that money hungry, why wasn't there a completely animated Disney princess in any of the recent films like Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, or Emperor's New Groove? Disney just found a good story idea, ran with it, and it just happened to feature a Princess that would make a good addition to the Princess line.

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:04 pm

UmbrellaFish wrote:ariel'sprince, I don't think it's like that. If Disney was that money hungry, why wasn't there a completely animated Disney princess in any of the recent films like Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, or Emperor's New Groove? Disney just found a good story idea, ran with it, and it just happened to feature a Princess that would make a good addition to the Princess line.

Because only now they now about the Princess line being so popular,why adding a princess in Chicken Little when the film isn't even about her? the 2000 was just the beginning of the Princess line and it wasn't as popular as it is today.
Happen? the consumer products took over the company and they want more money and they found it-Tiana,a black Princess,they"re making a movie to add a black one.
We also got Enchanted and Rapunzel to help the franchise but they weren't made just to sell Princess merchandise,unlike Tiana.
Why do you think it's wrong?.

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:04 pm

PARROT!

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:06 pm

SpringHeelJack wrote:PARROT!

FYI-The princess in the original Frog Prince was white just like Snow White,Cinderella,Belle and Aurora unlike Mulan and Pocahontas that were Native American and Asian in their original stories.

Old Fish Tale · Post by **Old Fish Tale** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:06 pm

I may vomit!

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:12 pm

Let's think, our last princess was Mulan in 1998. Now the current year is 2008. In 2009 "The Princess and the Frog" will premiere. That's an 11 year gap. Now, I would say the Princess line became popular in 2002 at the very least. Now that's about six years to make a Princess movie. Two or three years is the normal amount it takes to make an animated movie. So, if Disney really wanted a Princess movie for profit, we would have at least three CGI Princesses. But we don't.

Mooky · Post by **Mooky** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:13 pm

No it's not,this movie is being made just to sell more Princess

You could make that same argument for "Rapunzel" and every other upcoming princess film. If that's the case (Princess films being made just to sell Princess merchandise) then why isn't every single Disney princess/heroine in the franchise? You know, many people prefer Megara to Aurora or Snow White.
But really, this is getting annoying. Let's talk about the film.

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:21 pm

UmbrellaFish wrote:Let's think, our last princess was Mulan in 1998. Now the current year is 2008. In 2009 "The Princess and the Frog" will premiere. That's an 11 year gap. Now, I would say the Princess line became popular in 2002 at the very least. Now that's about six years to make a Princess movie. Two or three years is the normal amount it takes to make an animated movie. So, if Disney really wanted a Princess movie for profit, we would have at least three CGI Princesses. But we don't.

The Princess line was that insanely popular back then,it's only started in 2006.
Now,why they want a black Princess? and they just promote it about a black Princess? and the original princess wasn't black in the story,face it,they"re just making it to make more merchandise.
I remember already said before that they"re making a Frog Prince movie just for the franchise.
Rapunzel was in work long time before the franchise and she's not getting any promotion like Tiana as the first black Princess.
Obviously,it's just to make more money for the line.
Why? because every girl is a princess and not every girl is a heroine,so what if some people prefer Meg? she's really not a princess (And besides-she's a damsel in distress unlike Aurora and Snow White,and the others,but let's not get into this).
I think we"re getting off-topic.

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:25 pm

We are getting off-topic, but I'm just going to say that the Disney Princess line has been big for a very long time, not just since 2006.

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:29 pm

The Princess was popular in 2004 but the madness that the line created (People who aren't Disney fans knows only the line,little boys don't want to watch Princess films,the line was much more popular and etc.) started in 2006.

Mooky · Post by **Mooky** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:34 pm

Trying to get back on topic: I haven't seen Nip/Tuck. Is it only on HBO because I'd like to see Bruno Campos in it? I've never heard of him before TPATF

Just go to YouTube and type in Bruno Campos. I would post links to videos myself, but many of them may be offensive to some people and considering what happened to that thread with... um, pictures of Disney princes in explicit acts I don't want to risk offending anybody

.

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:39 pm

Oh... So it's a racy show, huh? Okay, thanks for the tip!

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:50 pm

Will they keep anything from the original story? it goes like this pretty much:
There's a spoiled and selfish princess who lives in a castle,one day she plays with her golden ball and drop to a wall,the frog see this and ask her if she wants him to get it,she agree,he tells her that he"ll do it only if she kisses (And I think also eating with her),she agrees,he goes gets her ball but she doesn't take him to her castle like she promised,the other day the frog comes to the castle and the princess is surprised to know he came,the king asks her what's going on,she explain him eveything and he tells her that if she promised something then she must keep her promise,he let's the frog in,he eats with them and ask the princess a few things,the princess doesn't want to help him but she's forced to help him because of her father,at some point she kisses him and he's a prince,happily ever after I guess.
Isn't that? (I checked on Wikipedia).

steve · Post by **steve** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:54 pm

She wasn't spoiled and selfish in the version I heard - she just didn't like the idea of kissing the frog...I doubt Disney would make her spoiled and selfish - it would be very hard to make the character likeable. I'm just thinking that because I just watched Dreamworks' Sinbad, and he's basically a jerk for most of it and you don't really care for him as much as other animated characters...I'm rambling now...

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:57 pm

There's another version entitled "The Frog Princess" (ariels'prince, your's was the "Frog Prince). Obviously the medieval writers were obssesed with frogs. Anyway, here's a Wiki link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Princess.

I have to say I think this story will be more of an original Princess tale than one based on a classic fairytale.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:58 pm

SpringHeelJack wrote:PARROT!

I normally don't read this thread, but a little voice was saying to me "click it, Al, click it!"

So I clicked it. And somehow I found myself at this one-word post that within the context of just page 27...does not make any sense at all. And it had me in convulsions as I was ROTFLMAOPIMP

Albert

Mooky · Post by **Mooky** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:59 pm

Guys, it's not based on "The Frog Prince", it's more of an original fairytale, that combines some elements from "The Frog Princess" with one element from "The Frog Prince" (a prince turned into a frog needs a true love's kiss to return to its original state). That's where all similarities to both fairytales end.

yukitora · Post by **yukitora** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:22 pm

not wanting to kiss a frog is not spoiled nor selfish, it's having a sense of hygiene...

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:41 pm

The only version I've seen of The Frog Prince is from Fairy Tale Theatre--and the princess was not likable. I'm sure that, even if they were borrowing somewhat from this story (which I doubt, because it didn't take place in the modern world), they would alter her for the film. Jasmine used to be spoiled, but nobody likes a spoiled character as a lead.

Why? because every girl is a princess and not every girl is a heroine,so what if some people prefer Meg? she's really not a princess (And besides-she's a damsel in distress unlike Aurora and Snow White,and the others,but let's not get into this).

Yes, let's not. Because that is a total lie.

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