DC Fan wrote:Atlantis on the other hand I´m amazed they´ve included and hour long making of; 1 hour! For this movie.
...this is beyond awesome.
It's a little over half the length of the original DVD documentary, which ran an hour and 59 minutes.
Also gone are 11 "Visual Commentary" featurettes (23 minutes), the in-universe "Progress on Parade" film (3 minutes), character animation tests and progression reel footage (5 minutes), digital production tests (6 minutes), 3-D turnarounds of vehicles and creatures (18 minutes), one more trailer (1 minute), and all the still galleries (nearly 1800 stills).
Albert
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AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
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TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
Did Mulan on Blu Ray have everything from it's 2-disc DVD. Same Question with Brother Bear.
I ordered Lilo & Stitch with Emperor's New Groove through Disney Movie Club since it was only $29.95. I would no one pay $50 for these movies since they aren't well in bonus features. I'm not that bothered by no bonus features on the Blu rays, but mainly because I have the 2-disc DVDs. However I do realize it's frustrating for people that don't have them.
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All galleries are lost in the leap from DVD to Blu-ray. There were ten Character Design galleries holding several hundred images, three Visual Development galleries amassing around 100 images, a 13-image Backgrounds & Layouts gallery, and a Publicity Art gallery holding 32 images. The interactive edutaining feature "DisneyPedia: Mulan's World", comprised of ten shorts on the film's elements and culture, is another notable casualty. Also gone: the no longer applicable introduction about being able to toggle angles for the production stages demonstration. Included on Mulan's first DVD (a non-anamorphic Limited Issue disc repackaged as a Gold Classic Collection edition) but subsequently dropped and still not resurfacing is its original theatrical trailer. That's a bummer both for fans of Randy Edelman's Dragonheart score and for those who appreciated the use of some rough animation and shots not used in the final film.
Brother Bear's Blu-ray hangs on to most of the film's extras from its one and only 2-Disc Special Edition DVD, all of them remaining unsurprisingly in 1.33:1 standard definition.
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The two DVDs included here are simply recycled from the films' original DVD releases, which ensures we don't lose three set-top games that do not make the jump to Blu-ray.
Also, a quick update:
Escapay wrote:
DC Fan wrote:Atlantis on the other hand I´m amazed they´ve included and hour long making of; 1 hour! For this movie.
...this is beyond awesome.
It's a little over half the length of the original DVD documentary, which ran an hour and 59 minutes.
Home Theater Forum just posted their review, which shows the documentary running at its proper length, so disregard my earlier comment. Blu-Ray.com posted the wrong information in their review.
The other material is still missing.
Albert
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AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
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TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Has he actually said he doesn't like it?! Never knew that. So sad the extras are totally missing...it makes no sense that Disney tried so hard to erase all these sequels, yet they are now shoving them in our faces again instead of extras. Just bizzare.
I'm not sure whether Lassetter explicitly said he didn't like Lilo and Stitch, but I know he didn't think very highly of the Disney films of the early 00s in general, and coupled with the complications regarding Chris Sanders and American Dog/Bolt, it's not hard for rumours about Lasseter disliking Lilo and Stitch to come up.
For people that are OK for a movie with no extras.
To me they´re important; making of´s especially. Yes, extras are something you may watch just once but it´s needed.
1. They help to better understand the movie. If it´s a movie you love/like you´d want to know everything about it. If it´s a movie you don´t like more so because knowing how it was made and the effort put into it might help you enjoy it more next time you watch it.
2. Other people around you may want to watch them as well.
3. What I´ve said already. BRs are expensive as they are so you want your money´s worth; if at least they´ve sold them accordingly. Plus, is much more painful when you know there are extras out there that just need to be ported.
I don't think those films are popular enough to justify the porting of all the special features.
Sure, it would be nice if they were included, but both LILO and EMPEROR'S were lackluster. I doubt I would spend any more time on them if I was to even get around to watching them again on Blu.
GreatGreg wrote:I don't think those films are popular enough to justify the porting of all the special features.
Precisely one of the things that DVD and BR brought to the table were the extras. That a film is not as popular as others doesn´t mean it doesn´t need extras.
Look at the Collector´s Edition DVD for Atlantis.
Besides, "justify porting all the special features"? You make it sound like it´s a hard thing to do. Making new extras do take time and money. But just porting existing ones?
Plus, if we look at it from the Disney perspective it´s like if they lost money. They did take time money on making these extras back then just to not use them again.
No. DVD and BD are just higher-capacity storage media and what it brought to the table was higher resolution picture and sound quality.
I haven't looked specifically at these two titles, but adding in Special Features, even features that were previously made, does require effort. Menus have to be designed. Video or audio may need to be upgraded. Languages may need to be supported. Then you may get into multiple language menus. Why would you pay more for the exact same special feature available on a $5.00 DVD?
If they are cutting back pennies (or fractions of pennies) by omitting disc art and stacking discs in the case, you can bet that adding Special Features is not for free.
Besides, if adding a special feature means that my video or audio quality of the main feature will suffer, then I would prefer that Disney ditch all of the special features and just give me a high-quality transfer!
Hunchback also carried the little features of the DVD.
Both have static menus.
Plus, there you have Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Beauty and the Beast, Alice in Wonderland...full of extras (Beauty with 3 versions of the movie) and all look and sound great. The picture quality and audio didn´t suffer.
[quote="GreatGreg"] if adding a special feature means that my video or audio quality of the main feature will suffer, then I would prefer that Disney ditch all of the special features and just give me a high-quality transfer![/quote]
I agree. There are some movies that I would like special features for, but the majority of these films I just want the best picture and audio quality out there.
My biggest complaint with Disney is the lack of uniformity in their releases. I wish Disney would release all the Animated Classics individually. No two movie bundles, no anniversary, platinum, diamond, or special editions. Just a single release with HD picture and audio in a uniform slip cover. Then continue that slip cover look for future movie releases.... Not holding my breath...
I really really hate to say this, but I have gotten to the point where I no longer care at all about bonus features. When I was a teenager with nothing better to do than watch all these features included on my DVDs they were awesome, but now, as an adult, I don't have the time for them. I am lucky if I ever get to watch the movie itself. And I really could care less about old bonus features I have already seen. I will never touch them anyway.
And in this day and age practically any bonus feature that exists on the DVD/Laserdisc is easy to find on the internet if you really care that much about the making of the movie or whatever it is you are interested in viewing.
I buy Blu Rays to watch the movie, and while bonuses used to be of upmost importance to me now I just care mostly that the movie makes use of the 2000 dollar TV and Sound System I bought to watch it.
I completely agree that Disney is charging too much for their barebones discs. But I must admit people were willing to shell out a lot more for a VHS copy of a movie way back when.
Looks awesome. So, how come Disney managed to get this picture perfect quality on BR for each release and on DVD the ones that weren´t Platinum or Special Editions had an average (VHS) quality?
