Is Disney Done with DVD? (The Never Ending Blu-Ray Debate)

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Rudy Matt wrote:

The problem is that you're happy with what you have -- when you don't know what you're missing.
You can't miss what you don't have. :D

Besides, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being happy with what you have.
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Rudy Matt wrote:

The problem is that you're happy with what you have -- when you don't know what you're missing.


I know what I'm missing and I'm still happy with what I have for dvd.

It's rather simple, it's just not logical for me to buy/upgrade to Blu-Ray. I don't even get enough money to buy all the dvds I want, never mind pay for a Blu-Ray player and a brand new t.v for it to play on. Especially since I'm still upgrading from VHS to DVD.

My current tv is very small, probably not much bigger than my computer monitor but I'm happy with it, it works and that's all that matters to me in the end. If it broke I'd put it on my next B-Day or Christmas list and hope for the best. Same goes for my dvd player, it's not the newest or most shiny dvd player and it may not be Blu-Ray but it works and so I'm happy with it.

Also, my bedroom isn't very large and is already full of furniture and shelving units so I don't really have anywhere to put a big new t.v (which is also why I'm happy with my small tv) sure I could put it in the living room, but we already have a large tv in there that works really well since it's somewhat new. Why waste the money?

Also, I don't really have time to sit and watch lots of movies these days. why waste all that money just to see the movies in good quality every so often? Especially when my dvd's still work just fine.

Now if we changed the scenario to where I was rich (god how I wish this was my situation) and could easily afford it, I still wouldn't buy it. At the moment it's a luxury item and I'd honestly rather spend the money on something more important like donating it to Wildlife Charities, or any Charity for that matter that needs it. Would I upgrade it eventually? Perhaps, but there's more important things I could spend my money on than Blu-Ray.
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The Armageddon thing is odd. Is the version airing on HDTV an actual HD broadcast, or upscaled to HD? I know sometimes, some channels will do this.
I'm not sure. I don't have HD cable - the only high definition stuff I get is the local channels (ABC, NBC, FOX, you know what I mean)... and for now that's enough as my TV actually doesn't suck at upscaling, so normal analog cable looks pretty good as-is. (I'm sure it can be better, but I watch DVDs more than TV anyway, so not a big deal)

I only know I've heard about it aired in HD. But the thing is: How can you lose an HD master? You'd have to lose the original 35mm film reel, and I highly doubt that's what happened - as that would mean they could never release it again in any format, short of just re-encoding the DVD. (Unless theaters still have copies, or something)
I seem to recall reading that no original reels were destroyed in that fire last year? So I think Disney/Touchstone is just making up crap.
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Rudy Matt wrote:The problem is that you're happy with what you have -- when you don't know what you're missing.
Yes, some of us are odd that way-- We're actually content with what we're having. Since when is that a bad attitude? I was raised on that concept: "be happy with what you have". I was taught not to throw my money away by buying frivolous gadgets or other stuff I didn't need. I know what I'm "missing", I just decided I don't want it. Because I don't need it. (And yes, I do need a cell phone, but no, I don't need the latest $300 dollar iPhone which comes with camera, wireless internet and 200 new games.)
Chernabog_Rocks wrote:Now if we changed the scenario to where I was rich (god how I wish this was my situation) and could easily afford it, I still wouldn't buy it. At the moment it's a luxury item and I'd honestly rather spend the money on something more important like donating it to Wildlife Charities, or any Charity for that matter that needs it.
Beware. Last time I said something like that, he accused me of pretending to be more noble than anyone else and he called me a communist. :D
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Goliath wrote:
Beware. Last time I said something like that, he accused me of pretending to be more noble than anyone else and he called me a communist. :D
Looks like you've got competition then for the "Who's More Noble" contest, better get out your hypothetical rich person wallet and start donating to those charities!
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Cherny wrote:
Goliath wrote:
Beware. Last time I said something like that, he accused me of pretending to be more noble than anyone else and he called me a communist. :D
Looks like you've got competition then for the "Who's More Noble" contest, better get out your hypothetical rich person wallet and start donating to those charities!
The only truly Noble person is Donna. She was, after all, the most important woman in the universe. Without her...reality as we know it...gone in the blink of an eye (and special effects). :P

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You have to be rich(or a business owner) to have a new TV, maybe, but that's not always the case. I have a teacher who's kids are in college, and they got her a TV with HD cable for christmas. She also got a $150 blu-ray player, and is still doing just fine or, at least, no different than she's been doing these past few months.

Edit: And card points also help a bit, but those can still be costly and take some time to get the points that are needed.
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Escapay wrote: The only truly Noble person is Donna. She was, after all, the most important woman in the universe. Without her...reality as we know it...gone in the blink of an eye (and special effects). :P

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Just as long as during that blink there's no weeping angels around :P
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But don't forget Escapay, Romana was the "Noblest Romana of them all" when she elected to stay in E-Space (wordplay on a Shakespeare quote). :D

As for the more important Blu-ray discussion, its really just an exact mirror of the introduction of DVD. Remember Kevin Smith's famous "F**k DVD!" comment on his Chasing Amy commentary?

In that example, Smith saw DVD as competition for his beloved Laserdiscs (which I'll admit, Disney still hasn't beaten their Laserdisc releases on so many of their animated classics). But in the long run, DVD proved to be a better format than Laserdisc - more convenient to play, easier to store, arguably better picture quality (like vinyl, some prefer the analogue picture - no MPEG compression blocks or artifacts) but unarguably better sound. Kevin Smith now 100% endorses both DVD and Blu-ray.

Blu-ray is just as big a leap over DVD as DVD was over Laserdisc. It may not be easier to store blu-ray discs, but everything else ticks off - more convenient (Blu-rays can hold hours of content. I've some blu-rays with over 10 hours of content - admittedly some of it in SD rather than HD. But even films like National Treasure 2 have the film in HD and lossless audio AND all of the second DVD's features in full HD AND blu-ray exclusive features all on one disc), better picture quality (not only from increased definition but also better compression codecs eliminating most artefacts) and unquestionably better sound - up to 7.1 tracks totally uncompressed!

In addition, the blu-ray format is also looking to the future. Blu-ray recorders are becoming cheaper and cheaper. Some Camcorders write to Blu-ray disc. While Windows and other computer software came packaged on floppies, then CDs, then DVDs, soon they'll come on Blu-rays and Blu-ray drives become cheaper and more popular for computers. But that's still talking about using todays Blu-ray technology.

What about tomorrow's technology? Soon there's going to be a 3D standard ratified soon for use on upcoming 3D displays. They're still experimenting with extra layers on the disc for extra storage, they're experimenting with hybrid discs (to get rid of those Blu-ray and DVD pack-ins and make the format transition even smoother).

People who don't like Blu-ray claim it has no future, but its already got more momentum than DVD had at the same time in it's life. And that's after fighting a "war" with a rival format for 2/3rds of the time, as well as the whole world entering a recession (in contrast to the boom times of the early 2000s). Blu-ray is here now. If anything its the replacement of NTSC (a format almost as old as television itself) that is killing DVD and promoting Blu-ray - not the failure of the DVD format itself. Which makes me think Blu-ray will be here, in one form or another, for a long, long time.
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Goliath wrote:
Rudy Matt wrote:The problem is that you're happy with what you have -- when you don't know what you're missing.
Yes, some of us are odd that way-- We're actually content with what we're having. Since when is that a bad attitude? I was raised on that concept: "be happy with what you have". I was taught not to throw my money away by buying frivolous gadgets or other stuff I didn't need. I know what I'm "missing", I just decided I don't want it. Because I don't need it. (And yes, I do need a cell phone, but no, I don't need the latest $300 dollar iPhone which comes with camera, wireless internet and 200 new games.)
Chernabog_Rocks wrote:Now if we changed the scenario to where I was rich (god how I wish this was my situation) and could easily afford it, I still wouldn't buy it. At the moment it's a luxury item and I'd honestly rather spend the money on something more important like donating it to Wildlife Charities, or any Charity for that matter that needs it.
Beware. Last time I said something like that, he accused me of pretending to be more noble than anyone else and he called me a communist. :D
Agreed.
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I bought my blu ray player during the Black Friday sales, but on Thanksgiving from BestBuy.com and got a great deal ($199.99). I only own 5 Blu Rays (Speed Racer, Home Alone, Pinocchio, Bolt and Bedtime Stories). Most of my other movies are DVDs. Bolt and Bedtime stories I got $10 off coupons for. I am glad the three Disney Blu Rays I purchased also came with a *DVD copy* so I can share the movie Bedtime stories with my brother's girls in the near future.
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i really like the idea with the combo of Blu Ray + DVD. I can lend the DVD someone else or i can watch the movie on dvd when i don't have my blu ray player here (for example on vacation on my notebook). Also nice to see that Disney sticks with these combos at least for a while, already preordered so race to witch mountain.
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I doubt it, I am happy with my DVDs and I have no interest in upgrading to Blu-ray anytime soon.
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netty wrote:But don't forget Escapay, Romana was the "Noblest Romana of them all" when she elected to stay in E-Space (wordplay on a Shakespeare quote). :D
True, I had forgotten about Romana! However, if RTD is to be believed, she left E-Space and was President of Gallifrey during the Time War. Thank god it was never really addressed in the series, I'd love for Romana to return one day.

Anyway, to remain on topic, Disney won't be done with DVD until they stop manufacturing them. :P

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Escapay wrote: Anyway, to remain on topic, Disney won't be done with DVD until they stop manufacturing them. :P

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i agree and it's also not so bad to have the chance to sale the movies on two plattforms i guess. Also there are still titles which are only get released on dvd and not on blu ray. I agree, these are mostly not the most important releases, but still dvd isn't forgotten.
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