I wonder if the box office will scare some people and they won't even give it a shot on D+.

Yep. My three least favorite films in the canon are Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, and Strange World.
What are your bottom 3?D82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:34 pm I like Meet the Robinsons too. It's definitely not among my least favorite WDAS films. As for Strange World, I'm not sure how I would rank it yet. I thought it wasn't that bad, but my expectations were quite low when I saw it. I think I'd need a second viewing to decide.
I think Frozen II, Chicken Little and perhaps Ralph Breaks the Internet (from least favorite to favorite). Atlantis, Dinosaur, Brother Bear and Home on the Range are also among my least favorites. I only hate Frozen II, though. What are yours?
Chicken Little, Home on the Range and Dinosaur.
Source: https://dapsmagic.com/2022/12/disneys-s ... y-and-dvd/Bonus Features
• Anatomy of a Scene: Creating A Strange World – Learn about Walt Disney Animation Studios’ creative process through a single, visually stunning scene as the filmmaking team puts all of their imagination – and more – on the screen.
• Strange Science – Jaboukie Young-White (voice of Ethan Clade) hosts an exploration of how Walt Disney Animation Studios artists were inspired by real science to create Strange World.
• Creature Feature – Journey into the world beneath Avalonia and meet some of the terrifying, slimy, gassy ¬– and sometimes cute – creatures that inhabit this Strange World.
• The Hidden Secrets of Strange World – Uncover the references and characters from some of your favorite Walt Disney Animation Studios films hidden throughout the film, along with some fun facts and behind–the–scenes stories of how Strange World was made.
• Outtakes – Go behind the glass as we join the cast of Strange World inside the recording booth for some fun, flubs and outtakes.
Deleted Scenes
• The Ballad of Jaeger Clade
• Lightning Lynx
• Funerals and Promises
• Ethan and Searcher
Robin Hood and Oliver and Company are not among my favorites either. I like Pocahontas for its music and some other elements, but I also have several problems with it. The fact that they solved the language barrier through magic, for example, is especially dumb, in my opinion. As for the current era, apart from the titles you mentioned, as you know, I really liked Zootopia and Raya and the Last Dragon. Though I liked several others to varying degrees, the rest wouldn't be too high on my overall ranking either.Farerb wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:03 am There are more that I don't particularly care about:
Most of the 70's-80's films, most notably - Robin Hood and Oliver and Company. The only exception is The Great Mouse Detective.
Pocahontas is my least favorite Renaissance film. I also don't care about Atlantis.
And anything post Treasure Planet with the exception of The Princess and the Frog, Tangled and Moana.
My bottom films are Bolt, Zootopia, Wreck-it Ralph 1 & 2, Big Hero 6, Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, and Strange World.Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:59 pmI'd say my bottom films are Chicken Little, Brother Bear, Saludos Amigos, The Three Caballeros, WIR & sequel, and Big Hero 6.
I always took the "listen with your heart" thing as a metaphor for non-verbal communization. The settlers used gestures to communicate with Natives before any interpreters were trained. I think it was handled better than what other movies do in similar situations where they don't address the language barrier at all.
I don't remember having a big problem with that as a child/teenager, but in recent years every time I watch the film that's one of the things that ruin the movie a bit for me, as it's difficult for me to suspend disbelief from that moment on. I understand why they did it that way, but I think a much better solution would've been giving Pocahontas and John Smith more time to know each other and for her to learn his language (at least a bit) and summarizing it through a musical montage, for example, like they did later with Tarzan and Jane in the song "Strangers Like Me". That would've been much preferable, in my opinion.Sotiris wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:52 pm I always took the "listen with your heart" thing as a metaphor for non-verbal communization. The settlers used gestures to communicate with Natives before any interpreters were trained. I think it was handled better than what other movies do in similar situations where they don't address the language barrier at all.
I used to like Zootopia when it was released but I like it less and less each time I see it.D82 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:06 pm Robin Hood and Oliver and Company are not among my favorites either. I like Pocahontas for its music and some other elements, but I also have several problems with it. The fact that they solved the language barrier through magic, for example, is especially dumb, in my opinion. As for the current era, apart from the titles you mentioned, as you know, I really liked Zootopia and Raya and the Last Dragon. Though I liked several others to varying degrees, the rest wouldn't be too high on my overall ranking either.
Why do you prefer Bolt over Zootopia?
Well, anthropomorphic animal films in general are not my thing. I don't particularly care for whodunnits either. And while Bolt is a simple story, I find it more charming and sincere than Zootopia. It doesn't help that Zootopia's racism allegory is clumsy and all over the place. Also, I like the characters of Jenny, Rhino, and Mittens more than any characters in Zootopia and I prefer the songs in Bolt than the ones in Zootopia.
The allegory is why I'm not really into the film because it falls more apart each time I watch the film.Sotiris wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 amWell, anthropomorphic animal films in general are not my thing. I don't particularly care for whodunnits either. And while Bolt is a simple story, I find it more charming and sincere than Zootopia. It doesn't help that Zootopia's racism allegory is clumsy and all over the place. Also, I like the characters of Jenny, Rhino, and Mittens more than any characters in Zootopia and I prefer the songs in Bolt than the ones in Zootopia.
Source: https://deadline.com/2022/12/avatar-the ... 235200714/Fourth belongs to Disney’s Strange World on 2,870 with a fourth Friday of $600K, weekend of $2.7M, -29% and running total of $34.2M.
Strange World (Dis) 2,870 (-690) theaters, Fri $521K (-35%) 3-day $2.2M (-41%) Total $33.8M/Wk 4
Source: https://variety.com/2022/film/box-offic ... 235464497/“Strange World” added $2.2 million from 2,870 theaters, bringing its tally to $33.7 million, a terrible result given its $200 million budget.
Source: https://www.thewrap.com/avatar-way-of-w ... e-opening/Disney’s animated bomb “Strange World” continues to flounder with $2.3 million in its fourth weekend and a running domestic total of just under $34 million, still having not even eclipse the $38 million domestic run of Disney’s infamous 2002 bomb “Treasure Planet.”
It was definitely boring, but worse than that was how calculated the storytelling felt. I also noticed that the way characters interacted came off as inauthentic. By the way, how would you rank it among the Revival films?Farerb wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:36 amFinally saw the film and I thought it was one of the most boring films Disney made, even if it's probably not the worst. Honestly, if I had watched it on Disney+ , I would have stopped after 20 minutes or so... Everything about it just felt fake to me... As if the characters know that there's an audience, especially kids, watching them, the way they talk just never felt organic to me.
The entire Lasseter era starting from Meet the Robinsons has been a very mixed bag. It's been mostly a mediocre string of films with only a few bright spots here and there. I do agree though that the post-Lasseter output has been even more paint-by-the-numbers and uninspired than before. The fact Disney Animation's catalog is getting pimped out to produce cheap TV shows and shorts contributes to the feeling of WDAS going creatively bankrupt.
Commented here.Sotiris wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:00 am It was definitely boring, but worse than that was how calculated the storytelling felt. I also noticed that the way characters interacted came off as inauthentic. By the way, how would you rank it among the Revival films?
The entire Lasseter era starting from Meet the Robinsons has been a very mixed bag. It's been mostly a mediocre string of films with only a few bright spots here and there. I do agree though that the post-Lasseter output has been even more paint-by-the-numbers and uninspired than before. The fact Disney Animation's catalog is getting pimped out to produce cheap TV shows and shorts contributes to the feeling of WDAS going creatively bankrupt.