Merida to Join the Disney Princess Line

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Sotiris wrote:
disneyprincess11 wrote:I think she looks great.
What's the point of giving her 2D hair when they're basically using a CG clip-art? It's off-putting and unappealing.
It's the Best of Both Worlds :shrug:
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Sotiris wrote:
Patrick wrote:Rapunzel has a few hybrid incarnations like that as well, doesn't she?
Not that I know of.
Hmm.. I guess you're right. These are what I was thinking of. Not exactly the same, but I think this version of Merida is much nicer than these... :P

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Ew. And I mean that in the nicest way possible. :p
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Patrick wrote:These are what I was thinking of. Not exactly the same, but I think this version of Merida is much nicer than these.
I figured you were talking about those ones. :lol: Rapunzel sure has a lot of bad clip-art. It's not the same thing though. For this new Merida clip-art they used her face from an existing CG one.

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The question that I will always have.

Was it really necessary for Disney to make Merida a Disney princess?

Had they sell less if just kept on doing merchandise of Brave by itself?

Plus, just the whole idea of stabbing the whole message of the movie; even though the movie is far from perfect. But yes, in the end Merida accepts her destiny as a princess but just because she HAD TO not because she enjoyed the title.

So, when I heard her in the coronation yell "I am a princess!" was sooo out of character and place; 7:15:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE5lVHucG4[/youtube]
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DC Fan wrote:The question that I will always have.

Was it really necessary for Disney to made Merida a Disney princess?
Two words- Disney Feminists

The ones that haven't watched Snow White, Mulan and Cinderella in years but sit there and shout that it's sexist dribble when it's not.

Oh and let's not forget the whole " Beauty and the Beast supports Stockholm Syndrome " Nonsense they created.

Merida isn't the best Disney Princess but she gets those ignorant girls off Disney's backs and true Disney fans backs as well. because Merida is what they want, a girl that doesn't need a man. Even though she was extremely rude to her Mother but hey, she doesn't get married.

Sorry if you like Merida, but this why I feel they made her a Disney Princess and just didn't let her be her own character like Princess Anita from Bugs Life.
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Adding Merida to the Princess line was by far one of Disney's worst mistakes ever created. She's fine as a stand-alone Pixar character, but now she's a f*cking role model for litle girls to follow? Not to mention how her movie is all against the "Princess" image created by Disney, and how she's pretty whiny and bratty and spoiled, what a great role model. :lol:

What's next? Woody will be added to Mickey and the Gang? Dug will visit Pooh's world?

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In related news, Disney uploaded a sneak-peak of the upcoming Princess Fairytale Hall.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snmPFR5Hd1g[/youtube]

According to this article:
Cinderella and Rapunzel will often be featured inside, each in separate chambers with “a friend.” The other princesses greeting with them could be Snow White, Jasmine, or other familiar faces. But guests won’t find Ariel or Belle here, as they have their own permanent meet-and-greet locations elsewhere in New Fantasyland.
So I figure Merida will be among the princess rotations?
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thedisneyspirit wrote:Adding Merida to the Princess line was by far one of Disney's worst mistakes ever created. She's fine as a stand-alone Pixar character, but now she's a f*cking role model for litle girls to follow? Not to mention how her movie is all against the "Princess" image created by Disney, and how she's pretty whiny and bratty and spoiled, what a great role model. :lol:
Agree so much !

Not to mention she was terrible to her mom.
thedisneyspirit wrote: What's next? Woody will be added to Mickey and the Gang? Dug will visit Pooh's world?

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Nope ! Princess Buzz and Woody ! In beautiful glittery dresses ! :lol:
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thelittleursula wrote:
thedisneyspirit wrote:Adding Merida to the Princess line was by far one of Disney's worst mistakes ever created. She's fine as a stand-alone Pixar character, but now she's a f*cking role model for litle girls to follow? Not to mention how her movie is all against the "Princess" image created by Disney, and how she's pretty whiny and bratty and spoiled, what a great role model. :lol:
Agree so much !

Not to mention she was terrible to her mom.
She totally was! A good role model exercises good manners. Feminists and mothers of little girls seem to ignore the fact Merida treated her mother terribly because of her talents and being headstrong. I'd be concerned if they think Veruca Salt is also a great role model.
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I don't see Merida as bratty, spoiled, a bad role model, or as having been terrible to her mother (or, rather, no more terrible than her mother was to her to begin with). Whiny, on the other hand... :P

But, then again, I'm not into the ridiculousness of thinking of fictional characters--or celebrities, for that matter--as role models anyway. Still, I'd be more happy if my daughter was like Merida than, say, Snow White, Cinderella, or Aurora, who are basically doormats with no self-motivated desires, thoughts, or ambition, but who have "good manners." If anything, I would find it unappealing if Merida didn't rebel against her mother--because she'd be just like SW and Cinderella, who never say or do anything to the Queen or the Stepmother, who only cause them harm. The only difference between the Queen/Stepmother and Triton/Elinor is the intent; the behavior is still awful, and I don't see it as a bad quality when a child argues against it. In fact, I think it shows real character to stand up to negative authority.
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Not all women with good manners are submissive. There's plenty of kind women who stand firm to stop book bans. Merida just doesn't seem to get it that there are times to act like a proper lady (especially in front of visitors who want to see how well she holds up to Elinor) and there are times to be her rambunctious, fun self. Merida's showing off that she's better than a handful of princes at archery had to have bothered people other than her mother, the princes, and the kings of the other clans because it's expected Merida was raised to be discreet.
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thelittleursula wrote:
thedisneyspirit wrote: What's next? Woody will be added to Mickey and the Gang? Dug will visit Pooh's world?

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Nope ! Princess Buzz and Woody ! In beautiful glittery dresses ! :lol:
Why do Princess Buzz when you can just make a Mrs. Nesbitt doll?

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What a very odd combo ... Most peculiar; the two elements really don't blend well like that.

I've just got back from Disneyland Paris, and quite a lot of girls were wondering around in a Merida costume, which was a surprise. The most popular (from what I can gather of seeing girls clutching merchandise etc) Rapunzel is by far and away the most popular. Like literally blows all the other ladies out of the water. As far as outfits go, Rapunzel was top, followed by Snow (which was a nice surprise) and then Merida. The Ariel costume was her wedding dress strangely, and there were a few of those dotted around.

Does Merida do the 'Princess Pavillion' meet and greet with the others yet?
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Sky Syndrome wrote:Merida just doesn't seem to get it that there are times to act like a proper lady
I thought the movie was about her learning that (and Elinor learning to understand her daughter in return)? :?
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Disney's Divinity wrote:
Sky Syndrome wrote:Merida just doesn't seem to get it that there are times to act like a proper lady
I thought the movie was about her learning that (and Elinor learning to understand her daughter in return)? :?
Elinor dropped princess etiquette reminders everywhere and Merida shrugged them off as though they didn't apply to her. Spoiler: There was never a compromise by the end of the film that Merida would humor her mother by showing the rules of etiquette she was taught some of the time (to reassure the commoners she isn't some flighty girl who can't handle royal responsibilities) if her mother would stop trying to make life decisions for her.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Still, I'd be more happy if my daughter was like Merida than, say, Snow White, Cinderella, or Aurora, who are basically doormats with no self-motivated desires, thoughts, or ambition, but who have "good manners." If anything, I would find it unappealing if Merida didn't rebel against her mother--because she'd be just like SW and Cinderella, who never say or do anything to the Queen or the Stepmother, who only cause them harm. The only difference between the Queen/Stepmother and Triton/Elinor is the intent; the behavior is still awful, and I don't see it as a bad quality when a child argues against it. In fact, I think it shows real character to stand up to negative authority.
But Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora had desires for themselves, and Snow White and Cinderella thought that if they, themselves, wished or believed, it would bring them their desires. Also Cinderella did stand up and say something to her stepmother: "Why not? I'm still a member of the family. And it says, by royal command, every eligible maiden is to attend."
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Also Cinderella did stand up and say something to her stepmother: "Why not? I'm still a member of the family. And it says, by royal command, every eligible maiden is to attend."
I don't consider that "standing up" for herself when she was still leaving the final decision in the Stepmother's hands. And, in the end, if the Fairy Godmother had not appeared, Cinderella would not have went to the ball.

And I suppose Cinderella does have some self-motivated thoughts, but I don't consider much of "A Dream Is a Wish" and would hope my daughter would think of better ways to succeed in her life than wishin' and hopin'. The only thoughts the other two have are exclusively about romance/marriage (both before and after they actually meet their princes), so not self-motivated to me. At her worst, Merida is still more of a fully-developed, autonomous person than any of these characters, so I wouldn't be bothered if my daughter liked her.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:
Also Cinderella did stand up and say something to her stepmother: "Why not? I'm still a member of the family. And it says, by royal command, every eligible maiden is to attend."
I don't consider that "standing up" for herself when she was still leaving the final decision in the Stepmother's hands.
It was the best way Cinderella could stand up for herself to her stepmother. She was firm not angry. Cinderella didn't want to push her stepmother far enough she gets thrown out and has a hard dangerous life on the streets.
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Cinderella is braver than Merida.

Just becasue Merida’s movie is called "Brave", doesn’t make her the bravest of them all…
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