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PatrickvD wrote:I remember when Angelina was all offended by Disney princesses and the negative influence they have on her daughter.

Guess now that her daughter literally is a Disney princess she changed her mind? :lol:

Actually she said she wouldn't let any of her kids watch them because there weren't any African American Princesses.

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Do I even need to make a joke about this?
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Tristy wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:I remember when Angelina was all offended by Disney princesses and the negative influence they have on her daughter.

Guess now that her daughter literally is a Disney princess she changed her mind? :lol:

Actually she said she wouldn't let any of her kids watch them because there weren't any African American Princesses.

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Do I even need to make a joke about this?
Seriously? :?
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DisneyJedi wrote:
Tristy wrote:Actually she said she wouldn't let any of her kids watch them because there weren't any African American Princesses.

Do I even need to make a joke about this?
Seriously? :?
Yes, but to her defense, she made that statement BEFORE The Princess & the Frog came out.
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Tristy wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:I remember when Angelina was all offended by Disney princesses and the negative influence they have on her daughter.

Guess now that her daughter literally is a Disney princess she changed her mind? :lol:

Actually she said she wouldn't let any of her kids watch them because there weren't any African American Princesses.

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Do I even need to make a joke about this?
Oh now I remember. Yeah she said that literally when everyone in the world was aware that The Princess and the Frog was coming out the next year. But nooo, not Angelina who works in the freaking film industry providing a voice for Dreamworks even that very year.

Well I guess her daughter playing Aurora answers the question of whether or not TPatF appeased the great Miss Jolie.
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Jay wrote:How bad is it?!?!
Since I'm not comfortable posting part of the script in fear that Disney might come after me I'll post a little synopsis of it I'll put spoiler tags on though

The Fairies reject Maleficent because they think she killed her mother and they say her father is a devil worshiper. Also She feels left out because her wings are huge and she has troubling controlling them and they are black and feathery.


She feels like a reject and feels alone. However there is a half fairy half human named Stefan. Maleficent loves him, and when he tells her he's going to the human world to meet a King Henry she isn't happy but lets him go.

King Henry strikes a deal with the fairy King and they share the land however King Henry says he will manipulate the fairies to do what he wants. Maleficent finds this out but the other fairies don't believe her because they say she's a born liar. King Henry I think finds out about and has Stefan an offer.

Stefan goes back to Maleficent and says that he loves her. Maleficent is thrilled however it's a trick ans Stefan drugs her, and rips her wings off and brings them to King Henry. In return King Henry let's Stefan marry his daughter.

Maleficent has a talk with her father and decides to take the fairy throne. However if the stone on the throne screams it's not the right heir, but if doesn't they have found the rightful ruler. The stone screams when she takes the throne.

Maleficent does end up cursing Aurora, however something happens between then and the curse.

Stefan tells 3 fairies to take Aurora and live in a cabin. They don't like it and don't want to take care of that child. Stefan however orders them to by a threat of some sort and they take her.

Maleficent somewhere frees a crow and transforms him into a man and calls him Diablo. However when she gets sick of hearing him she says turn to a crow and he does.

Also she spies on Aurora growing up, and one day she confronts her and begins to have caring feelings for her and they become friends. At one point she does decide to lift the curse, however the other fairies made a counter curse and it still happens. Aurora does fall asleep however Maleficent wakes her with the gift of true love. Also it is revealed that she is the rightful ruler of the fairies. Maleficent helps Aurora escape and before Stefan is about to kill Maleficent, Aurora finds Maleficent's wings and frees them and they some how re attach themselves to her and they escape. She declares who the rightful ruler of the land is and when Aurora sits on the stone throne and it agrees.

Diablo tells Maleficent that she did the right thing, but jokes because of some her actions she should be called The Mistress of All Evil and they laugh. It ends.


Again this might not be in order but this is about the gist of it. It's horrible. I highly encourage people to read this so everyone can avoid paying to see this garbage.
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It's entirely possible it's been changed since that draft. Big-budget Hollywood productions go through so many different drafts with a lot of uncredited writers having some involvement, whether to polish the dialogue, add more humour, make the story more coherent, change characters. Even if only one writer is credited, there will be other cooks in the kitchen in the writing of a big studio production and hundreds upon thousands of drafts written.
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That does sound horrible, but who said it was the real thing?
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Old Fish Tale wrote:That does sound horrible, but who said it was the real thing?



It's the script written by Linda Woolverton this person who is behind this movie. Also PatrickvD said it's been confirmed that it's the same as the leaked script that I described in my previous post
PatrickvD wrote:It's been confirmed that the leaked script was indeed Linda Woolverton's script. Complete with ridiculous typos and well.... overall awfulness.

The biggest hack in Hollywood.

As for young Aurora being played by Jolie's daughter... :roll:
I hope estefan is right and they did some changes, some MAJOR changes but the script could be similar to what the final movie is if they are having Angelina Jolie's daughter. I'll explain more in spoiler tags. if you don't want to be spoiled I'll list spoiler tags

Since Maleficent is almost a mother figure to Aurora in this script, it makes perfect sense to have Angelina's real daughter play Aurora and it would be great chemistry.

I'm definitely not going to see it opening weekend in fear it might be very similar to that script as if it is so I don't waste money that way. It will probably be a rental if it is that script.
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Jesus that is AWFUL! If that is really how the movie turns out I hope it bombs big time. Seriously it is horrible like what did the do to Maleficent!?!?!?
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estefan wrote:It's entirely possible it's been changed since that draft. Big-budget Hollywood productions go through so many different drafts with a lot of uncredited writers having some involvement, whether to polish the dialogue, add more humour, make the story more coherent, change characters. Even if only one writer is credited, there will be other cooks in the kitchen in the writing of a big studio production and hundreds upon thousands of drafts written.
I pray that you're right. I don't think I could handle the idea of everyone being assholes to Maleficent for the sake of being assholes. Hell, I don't like the idea of Stefan himself being a downright bastard.
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And this is exactly why I'm so hesitant with the film! Cripes, I admit that I'm no fan of Angelina Jolie, but in all honesty, she's not really to blame for what they're doing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people love Maleficent because she is a villain. I fear that they're taking away the very thing that makes her so memorable. :(


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And I pray they do not replace this one with the original.
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Kraken Guard wrote:And this is exactly why I'm so hesitant with the film! Cripes, I admit that I'm no fan of Angelina Jolie, but in all honesty, she's not really to blame for what they're doing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people love Maleficent because she is a villain. I fear that they're taking away the very thing that makes her so memorable. :(


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And I pray they do not replace this one with the original.
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The casting reports list character names that are all in line with this script.

Also, Linda Woolverton is in a very powerful position at Disney due to her Alice script. While scripts usually go through re-writes yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Linda is the one doing these re-writes in accordance with the studio. She was the only credited writer for Alice and she will pen Alice 2 alone as well.

Personally, I think turning Maleficent into a kind goodhearted woman is the WORST thing in the world. It defies all logic and what was so great about her in the first place. There is nothing scarier than a villain who is evil just for the sake of being evil.

In recent years, Hollywood has become obsessed with origin stories to explain how villains became evil. This takes away any fear we might have had for them. It makes them weak. Especially the mistress of all evil.

I cannot believe Disney is so blissfully ignorant of why Maleficent is popular. At least with the 101 Dalmatians remake they got Cruella right. Glenn Close was freaking phenomenal. This however, is NOT going to fly.
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disneyboy20022 wrote:Also PatrickvD said it's been confirmed that it's the same as the leaked script that I described in my previous post.
I don't understand. Where did you find the plot points you posted? Wasn't that leaked script fake?
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She actually wrote this ??

I can kind of see what she is trying to do, and give Maleficant a soul...but it looks like it has been executed the entirely wrong way !! I thought it would at least be an actual prequel to Sleeping Beauty, not a stand alone movie, separate from its predecessor.

Even if it did end all "hoho I'm not really the mistress of all evil", it still makes no sense to the original movie, no matter who's perspective we go on.
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PatrickvD wrote:Also, Linda Woolverton is in a very powerful position at Disney due to her Alice script. While scripts usually go through re-writes yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Linda is the one doing these re-writes in accordance with the studio. She was the only credited writer for Alice and she will pen Alice 2 alone as well.
Even if one writer is credited, there will be other ones involved that are left uncredited (partly because of Writer's Guild arbitration rules, which are very strict about who gets credited). For example, Carrie Fisher aka Princess Leia actually helped on the screenplays for Hook and The Phantom Menace. She now does uncredited script polishes and re-writes more than acting. Just recently, Diablo Cody worked on the Evil Dead remake and Joss Whedon actually wrote a good chunk of Waterworld and Speed. Believe it or not, even though David Koepp was the only credited writer on the first Spider-Man, a lot of the basic structure was based on a script by James Cameron. Yes, that James Cameron. There are thousands of examples of this on every Hollywood movie.
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There's evidence the script (if real) has seen a lot of re-writes. There are scenes that have been filmed (evidenced by set photos) that contradict parts of the leaked script. I also find it odd that the script doesn't include the dragon. I mean, that seems like an obvious thing to include, am I right?
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Well, on a brighter note.. check out these amazing color Life Magazine photographs of Eleanor Audley and others taken during the live action references for the animators of Sleeping Beauty.

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I don't know if Maleficent will pull her one-winged angel move in the movie at this point, but I really hope they don't skip out on it.
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I'll give it a chance, but I probably won't see it opening weekend. Although first I want to hear if it's anything like that script or if it did get a total rework. If it didn't I probably won't be seeing it.
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