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Liu Yifei is recording a rendition of "Reflection" for the end credits of the film!

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OMG. The villains are so badass! :o :o :o


Don’t like remakes. There would be very solid reasons to consider them as the tragedy of our decade as Disney fans.

Yet I will keep as an eye our this one just for the sake of seeing something different. And certainly not another uninspired remake with minor changes that don’t make sense when they are not absolutely RIDICULOUS.

This feels like a very different film than the 1998’s animated feature.
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It looks good to me. I still have reservations about the overall quality and am concerned about the lack the footage/voice-over from Mulan herself in this trailer.
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The witch is weird and I don't like the overdramatization of the scene when Mulan's father gets the order.

I actually don't mind that there are no songs or no Mushu.
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farerb wrote:the overdramatization of the scene when Mulan's father gets the order.
They showed us the entire sequence at the D23 panel, and even what’s before (the public rejection of Mulan by the Matchmaker) is done the same way. And once again, this is such a pity because this is just for the sake of fan-servicing.

So far, the rest of the movie seems to divert from its predecessor.
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So far, the rest of the movie seems to divert from its predecessor.
I really doubt that's true. They can't even make posters for this thing without copying the original's. I guess all they want is to use nostalgia to get butts in seats and once they've got your money, they couldn't care less if they've shafted you of a totally different product.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:
So far, the rest of the movie seems to divert from its predecessor.
I really doubt that's true. They can't even make posters for this thing without copying the original's. I guess all they want is to use nostalgia to get butts in seats and once they've got your money, they couldn't care less if they've shafted you of a totally different product.
Even worse than Aladdin (2019) and The Lion King (2019) ??.. Gosh, this Mulan film promises to be the abomination among ABOMINATIONS then... ha ha! :lol:

I barely think it will tough. Is there a SINGLE of those “remakes” which didn’t use the Nostalgia vibe through its promotion? The reason why they are STILL doing that is because it unfortunately worked in the past. Isn’t it hypocritical to start worrying about that only now? And that’s not even that much an use of nostalgia here. So :roll:
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Yet I’m not saying it will necessarily be good because it’s more original either!

Look at this HORRENDOUSLY bad Maleficent Mistress of Evil movie... :P That was a big joke alright. :lol:

Only time will tell. The final verdict is on March 27th :)
What I can say is, as far as I’m concerned at least, the product seems to get better thrills from me.
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Clindor wrote: Even worse than Aladdin (2019) and The Lion King (2019) ??.. Gosh, this Mulan film promises to be the abomination among ABOMINATIONS then... ha ha! :lol:
Aladdin 2019? An abomination? :lol: Clearly we do not have the same taste whatsoever.
I barely think it will tough. Is there a SINGLE of those “remakes” which didn’t use the Nostalgia vibe through its promotion?
Yes, and most of them delivered in the final product with a film that was mostly along the lines of what you'd expect from the nostalgia-driven trailers.
Only time will tell. The final verdict is on March 27th
It's going to do well at the box office, don't worry. And the reason will be because people loved the original. It'll be interesting if audiences love the end product after seeing it like they did with Aladdin 2019 though, which is up around 90% and above. Will they enjoy the bait and switch as much as you do?
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Disney's Divinity wrote:
Clindor wrote: Even worse than Aladdin (2019) and The Lion King (2019) ??.. Gosh, this Mulan film promises to be the abomination among ABOMINATIONS then... ha ha! :lol:
Aladdin 2019? An abomination? :lol: Clearly we do not have the same taste whatsoever.
That was an offensive, dreadful, atrocious, boring, pandering flick. Not worthy of the Disney name. A disservice to our youth as someone who watched the original animated Aladdin in cinema when I was a kid and grew up with it.
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That wouldn't be too wrong with Alice and Maleficent (coincidentally nothing like their original films)--but Aladdin? That's just absurd. I also saw the animated Aladdin in theaters when I was a child and while I'd put the re-make below it, it wouldn't be too far below. I actually think it improves on that film in several ways. Genie is less annoying, Jasmine is actually a good character, and the Sultan isn't a complete joke.
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Only time will tell. The final verdict is on March 27th
It's going to do well at the box office, don't worry. And the reason will be because people loved the original. It'll be interesting if audiences love the end product after seeing it like they did with Aladdin 2019 though, which is up around 90% and above. Will they enjoy the bait and switch as much as you do?
- I wasn’t even speaking as a matter of Box Office figures. That’s my whole point. Though I wish that movie to have success.
- Is it Mulan even that much of a cherished Disney movie? :? I mean it’s not like it was forgotten but it’s certainly not in the top 15 either.
- Really? You think that’s the live-action remake people will remember? :lol: :lol: No joke?
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Clindor wrote: - Is it Mulan even that much of a cherished Disney movie?
Enough for Disney to think about re-making it, apparently.
Clindor wrote: - Really? You think that’s the live-action remake people will remember? :lol: :lol: No joke?
I think I've been pretty consistent in saying all the re-makes will be forgotten in 10 years after they're made, so I'm not sure where you got that from.
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Clindor wrote:OMG. The villains are so badass! :o :o :o


Don’t like remakes. There would be very solid reasons to consider them as the tragedy of our decade as Disney fans.

Yet I will keep as an eye our this one just for the sake of seeing something different. And certainly not another uninspired remake with minor changes that don’t make sense when they are not absolutely RIDICULOUS.

This feels like a very different film than the 1998’s animated feature.
I generally do prefer the faithful live-action remakes which add something more like Cnderella, Jungle Book, and Aladdin, NOT Lion King. However, I'm more into this because it seems to be improving on the original story by removing all the anachronistic comedy that tonally clashed with the more dramatic parts of the rest of the film. Mulan has never been one of Disney's prestige A-list pictures so a revamp makes more sense than a straight-up remake like Disney's more popular titles tend to get because if those films were more heavily changed, they would have been rejected by the public for being too different.
farerb wrote:The witch is weird and I don't like the overdramatization of the scene when Mulan's father gets the order.

I actually don't mind that there are no songs or no Mushu.
I think the witch is supposed to be weird...to us at least. The scene was pretty dramatic in the original as well.

Same, I prefer the changes.
Clindor wrote: - Is it Mulan even that much of a cherished Disney movie? :? I mean it’s not like it was forgotten but it’s certainly not in the top 15 either.
If I'm correct this was announced shortly after the live-action Cinderella was released and there was plenty of criticism on social media about how Disney was only remaking films with white actors in European stories. The announcement of Mulan (and maybe Lilo & Stitch) shortly afterwards seemed to try and quell these complaints.
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Fa Zhou withstood pain in order to not be humiliated in public. Him being like that in public is unnecessary.
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farerb wrote:Fa Zhou withstood pain in order to not be humiliated in public. Him being like that in public is unnecessary.
I guess they just wanted to conflate the two scenes from the original since he also collapses in pain but in the comfort of his own home.

What I find really interesting about the Witch is how they seemed to draw inspiration from Shan Yu's falcon. In the original film, Shan Yu had some sort of mystical connection with his falcon and he could see through his eyes so they've developed that into making the falcon a full-fledged character.
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I like it, a lot. :D But, like in Cinderella's case, it's gonna be so weird it not being a musical.
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I think this trailer was quite good. Better than the teaser. Like that one, it has touching moments, but it's more epic and the villains look quite menacing.
Clindor wrote:Don’t like remakes. There would be very solid reasons to consider them as the tragedy of our decade as Disney fans.

Yet I will keep as an eye our this one just for the sake of seeing something different. And certainly not another uninspired remake with minor changes that don’t make sense when they are not absolutely RIDICULOUS.

This feels like a very different film than the 1998’s animated feature.
I don't like the remakes either. I wish Disney wouldn't make them. But if they have to exist, I always prefer them to be as different as possible to the originals. That way I think the damage to the originals is smaller, and at the same time, at least they offer something new.
JeanGreyForever wrote:What I find really interesting about the Witch is how they seemed to draw inspiration from Shan Yu's falcon. In the original film, Shan Yu had some sort of mystical connection with his falcon and he could see through his eyes so they've developed that into making the falcon a full-fledged character.
It's true, I hadn't thought of that. She even transforms into a falcon in the trailer.

By the way, I know there were rumors about the phoenix, but I don't remember what they said. Is the phoenix supposed to replace Mushu in this version?
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This trailer was better than the teaser overall. It had better editing and flow, revealed the basic storyline and introduced new characrers. I love the instrumental version of "Reflection" they keep using. I wish there was a full version of it somewhere but probably only a snippet was created for promotional use.

I really missed the songs; the use of "Reflection" as background music, the "we're going to make men out of every single one of you" and "I will bring honor to us all" lines didn't help. :-| When the recruits were training, I was half-expecting them to break into song. :(

I didn't like how they humiliated Mulan's father in public. They needlessly robbed him of his dignity and made the scene more schmaltzy. The existence of the sister seems completely superfluous and inconsequential. I don't get why they added fantastical elements if they are supposedly going for a more realistic, gritty war story. A gigantic, multi-colored phoenix following Mulan around looks weird and out of place. The witch is such a caricature. I'm surprised she didn't start cackling and yelling "I'm melting!". Not to mention, having a female villain whether as a sidekick or the big bad, takes away from the themes of toxic masculinity and suffocating patriarchal rule that Shan Yu Bori Khan represents.

The acting is quite hammy all around. I'm not sure if it's due to the language barrier or if they were instructed to act like that. In terms of production values, it looks kinda cheap. I was expecting more from a visual standpoint. It doesn't hold a candle to Chinese epics like House of Flying Daggers or Hero.

In summation, it looks meh like pretty much every Disney remake so far.
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