Zootopia

[estefan]

Each time I come on this board to read the comments on the animated movies from Disney Feature Animation, I have the bad taste of people always complaining.
I feel the very same that Robster16 posted on the Moana thread.
I though we were first supposed to be Disney fans and whatever Disney is releasing since Tangled is always judged, criticized in a pessimistic and negative way. This is just boring to me.
It's fine and OK to share our points of views, our hopes and what we like or not of course but those last years, there are only people who continue to post here and have mostly always something bad to say.
It looks like you have fun together to complain but you should go watch some other films if you want diversity, 2D or something different...well anything that is not Disney!
I still love Disney animated films : they are fun, they have positive messages for children and even adults, they make me dream, I like the visuals, the quality of animation and storytelling, and above all, they still have sweet and endearing characters to love and cherish. I don't mean I like everything in their movies and I am also open to watch other films in worldwide animation industry, but that forum became such a mess of negative comments for people who pretend to be Disney lovers or fans.

Not me. I'm weird in the sense that I need to see everything in context before I judge it. It's hard for me to judge important elements like story structure, pacing, character development and character motivation from images, trailers and other marketing material. I prefer to wait and see the entire film from start to finish and see what the filmmakers have mounted before criticising it. While I would like see more styles of animation from Disney, I do think as a whole the quality from Disney animation has been very high lately.

And unlike other people, I don't get a Chicken Little vibe from this. Chicken Little was a desperate attempt from the top Disney brass to try and be hip with pop culture references and low brow jokes, not realising those were only a small part of why something like Shrek was successful. Zootopia will probably be very different from Chicken Little and I imagine Byron Howard and Rich Moore had a bit more creative control than the constant executive meddling Mark Dindal had to put up with on CL.

[Disney's Divinity]

I don't mind the Duke of Weaselton thing, but I can see why those who don't care for Frozen are wishing it would just stop. It's not like the Frozen character is Alan Tudyk's best one.

[blackcauldron85]

I don't mind the Duke of Weaselton thing, but I can see why those who don't care for Frozen are wishing it would just stop. It's not like the Frozen character is Alan Tudyk's best one.

For me, Frozen is one of my favorite movies. I'm with you on the fact that the Duke of Weselton isn't the greatest Disney character ever...I just think it's weird to try and incorporate a name from one movie into another, such a blatant...homage? But an homage that seems misplaced.

Still super-duper excited for the film; I won't let one name get me down!

[jazzflower92]

Hey, has anyone noticed another thing that makes Zootopia the opposite of Chicken Little is that the main protagnist changed from a male character to a female one. If anyone remembers, Chicken Little started out being a girl until Micheal Eisner changed the character into a boy because he believed that know one would be interested in a female main character. With Zootopia, originally Nick Wilde was the main character while Judy was the deuteragonist but their roles were for some reason switched in production. It makes me realize that Zootopia will be our first non-Disney movie movie with a female main character that has come out recently.

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Judy_Hopps

[Atlantica]

I'm looking at it in the way I did Lilo and Stitch; initially I wasn't interested at all, but the more I knew about it the more I looked forward to seeing it. The same is happening with Zootropolis - really very excited to see it now !

(And no, I still can't get onboard with calling it that, though I am trying ....).

[unprincess]

not very impressed so far. Im just not a big fan of anthropomorphized animal films(with some exceptions). This will be a Netflix rental for me.

[DisneyFan09]

And unlike other people, I don't get a Chicken Little vibe from this. Chicken Little was a desperate attempt from the top Disney brass to try and be hip with pop culture references and low brow jokes, not realising those were only a small part of why something like Shrek was successful. Zootopia will probably be very different from Chicken Little and I imagine Byron Howard and Rich Moore had a bit more creative control than the constant executive meddling Mark Dindal had to put up with on CL.

It baffles me that "Chicken Little" was made by the same crew of "The Emperor's New Groove". Despite being similar in tone, at least "Groove" was a breath of fresh air.

"Chicken Little" was a desperate DreamWorks-rip off, but the pop culture references were the redeeming thing about the movie. Which says a lot.

[jazzflower92]

And unlike other people, I don't get a Chicken Little vibe from this. Chicken Little was a desperate attempt from the top Disney brass to try and be hip with pop culture references and low brow jokes, not realising those were only a small part of why something like Shrek was successful. Zootopia will probably be very different from Chicken Little and I imagine Byron Howard and Rich Moore had a bit more creative control than the constant executive meddling Mark Dindal had to put up with on CL.

It baffles me that "Chicken Little" was made by the same crew of "The Emperor's New Groove". Despite being similar in tone, at least "Groove" was a breath of fresh air.

"Chicken Little" was a desperate DreamWorks-rip off, but the pop culture references were the redeeming thing about the movie. Which says a lot.

I think executive meddling has to do with how the writing turned out.

[disneyprincess11]

According to Tumblr, it is press day. Prepare for interviews soon!

[robster16]

Each time I come on this board to read the comments on the animated movies from Disney Feature Animation, I have the bad taste of people always complaining.
I feel the very same that Robster16 posted on the Moana thread.
I though we were first supposed to be Disney fans and whatever Disney is releasing since Tangled is always judged, criticized in a pessimistic and negative way. This is just boring to me.
It's fine and OK to share our points of views, our hopes and what we like or not of course but those last years, there are only people who continue to post here and have mostly always something bad to say.
It looks like you have fun together to complain but you should go watch some other films if you want diversity, 2D or something different...well anything that is not Disney!
I still love Disney animated films : they are fun, they have positive messages for children and even adults, they make me dream, I like the visuals, the quality of animation and storytelling, and above all, they still have sweet and endearing characters to love and cherish. I don't mean I like everything in their movies and I am also open to watch other films in worldwide animation industry, but that forum became such a mess of negative comments for people who pretend to be Disney lovers or fans.
Enough for me.

Exactly, you would expect a Disney fan forum to be a bit more optimistic instead of post after post filled with bitterness and negativity. I'm not saying things shouldn't be up for discussion or people can't have an opinion or anything, but the level at which the current slate of films is torn apart by some people really makes you wonder what they are doing at a Disney FAN forum in the first place!

[DisneyFan09]

I think executive meddling has to do with how the writing turned out.

Most likely.

[Disney's Divinity]

I never knew TENG and CL were made by the same people. I don't care about CL enough to read about its history or creation, so that's probably why.

[Tangled]

To be fair, TENG was also the result of executive meddling (The Sweatbox, anyone?). The thing is, though, Kingdom of the Sun actually sounded as though it was too busy and messy for a traditional Disney musical; so, the decision to spoof the original idea could be seen as both a good creative decision and a good business decision. Meanwhile, Chicken Little simply seemed to have been changed by executives (or simply David Stainton) to make it more marketable. There was no protection of creativity there.

Personally, I narrow the non-meddling differences down to Chicken Little being mean-spirited in comparison to TENG's more warm tone. Whereas Chicken Little felt like it was trying too hard to prove to audiences that it was "cooler" than older Disney films, TENG is fine with being a really funny, subversive, and even heartwarming Disney film without snuffing out the "Disney" part (aside from cutting the musical numbers. Losing "Snuff Out the Light" was a shame). I hope that Zootopia is similar in tone.

[Semaj]

I never knew TENG and CL were made by the same people. I don't care about CL enough to read about its history or creation, so that's probably why.

That was the whole reason I went to see Chicken Little when it first came out. Although I was pissed at Disney's "permanent" switchover to CGI, I loved The Emperor's New Groove, and felt Mark Dindal's direction would save an otherwise embarrassing film.

[DisneyEra]

"You gon see Zootopia! or he gon knock yo @$$ out 2! Make a choice!

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[Sotiris]

Michael Giacchino will compose the score for Zootopia.

[D82]

I like Michael Giacchino and I'm glad that he will finally score a Disney film. He provided the score for the Prep & Landing TV specials and The Ballad of Nessie short, but this will be his first Disney Animation full-lenth film.

[DisneyFan09]

Well, it's no surprise, due to that he's one of Lasseter's favorites nowadays.

[jazzflower92]

Anyone want to guess who is going to be the surprise villain of the movie.

[Tristy]

Anyone want to guess who is going to be the surprise villain of the movie.

I have a feeling it's going to be Mayor Lionheart, given how Lasseter seems to have a thing for having seemingly kindly grandfatherly figures turn out to be the villain.