Tangled Discussion - Part V

[Disney's Divinity]

Yeah, when I left the theater, I thought the way they did the introduction and ending seemed really last minute. Seemed out of place with the rest of the movie.

Also, the only plot hole in TP&TF is why Tiana and Naveen weren't returned to normal when Facilier died. Which can also be explained.

[LucilleBallFilms]

Also, the only plot hole in TP&TF is why Tiana and Naveen weren't returned to normal when Facilier died. Which can also be explained.

I wasn't even aware of that plot hole, but I haven't seen PatF lately so my memory of it's..a memory I do remember there's several others, an example being why didn't Charlotte turn into a frog I know the explanations for it but they seem too complex to be Disney's inside story we aren't told

[DancingCrab]

You can dig up plot holes in just about ANY movie. Both PatF and Tangled are no exception. For me, I enjoyed Princess and the Frog plenty enough...but about 90% of that enjoyment came from the beautiful hand drawn animation. The origin of my opinion stems from that I have always enjoyed the Rapunzel tale more than The Frog Prince, so I felt more of an initial investment in Rapunzel.

As for the songs...EVERY single time a Disney musical came out, all I heard about the music was "Oh the songs are no (insert previous animated film score here)" and so on. I don't believe in instant classics when it comes to music. Only time will tell on how these songs stick with us.

[RyGuy]

As for the songs...EVERY single time a Disney musical came out, all I heard about the music was "Oh the songs are no (insert previous animated film score here)" and so on. I don't believe in instant classics when it comes to music. Only time will tell on how these songs stick with us.

Haha, that's the truth. I remember buying the soundtrack for Beauty and the Beast on cassette (yes, I am old) about a month before the movie came out. The only song I really loved at the time was "Be Our Guest". I distinctly remember hearing the song "Beauty and the Beast" and thinking, "that song is kind of dumb" little knowing where it appeared in the movie (the infamous ballroom scene) and little knowing that it would later go on to win an Academy Award for Best Song.

Over all, I didn't think it was as great as The Little Mermaid soundtrack. The reprise to Belle seemed a little weak and just didn't measure up to "Part of Your World". Ultimately, I did end up liking the song after seeing it in the movie.

Funny thing is nearly 20 years later, I am much more apt to pop in the Beauty and the Beast soundtrack for a listen than I am The Little Mermaid. For lack of a better way to say it, it just seems like the soundtrack for Beauty and the Beast aged better than the soundtrack for The Little Mermaid.

[DisneyJedi]

You know what I think? I kind of find it silly to compare Tangled to The Princess and the Frog, both of which I loved equally. To me, that's like comparing The Little Mermaid to Beauty and the Beast, both equally great films.

By the way, according to Box Office Mojo, yesterday's estimates on the movie were around $5 million. Not as strong as last week. But hopefully, the gross should pick up again soon.

[Fairytales]

The song "Rhythm of love" always cheers me up so i made a Tangled video to go with it

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I hope you guys will get happy as well

[Scarred4life]

As of right now, I need to see the film again to really make an overall decision about how I felt about the film all together. On the subject of TPatF, But I do think most of my enjoyment from that comes from the animation. Right now, I do think the characters in Tangled were much better, and Tiana/Naveen felt very forced while Rapunzel/Flynn felt more natural. And there were no truly annoying characters in Tangled, while in TPatF, Louis, Ray, the frog hunters, and even Mama Odie really, really bothered me. In terms of the songs, both movies were pretty mediocre. With the exception of Almost There, the songs did seem to flow better in Tangled. And again, with the exception of Almost There (and maybe Friends of the Other Side) I think the songs were better in Tangled. And for everything else, I'm going to have to wait and see it again to really make a judgment.

[SmartAleck25]

Tangled beat Harry Potter!

'Tangled' Unfurls Past 'Potter'
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3002&p=.htm

[Tangled]

PatF had much less plot holes

PatF had plot holes out the wazzu that couldn't be explained And most plot holes people have come up with for Tangled i've been able to explain rationally and prove them to not be plot holes, if it did have any I missed, it still certainly didn't have as much as Frogger, I love the film but it's plot holes [Insert Witty Pun Here]. Or wait, was that the failed humor of it I kid the frog movie I'm just sayin, most of Tangled's plot holes haven't been proven to actually be Though this post certainly has some

Just some Tangled plot holes:

#1. How did Gothel learn the Healing Incantation? The queen had to drink the flower, so if she knew the Healing Incantation everyone would know, and I find it very unlikely that someone told Gothel.

#2. How did Rapunzel hide the satchel from Flynn? She got it from Gothel, then she hid it, then it just disappears until I See the Light. How could she sneak it past him and where was it during Kingdom Dance?

#3. More like a blooper, but in When Will my Life Begin Reprise 2 before Rapunzel is about to jump Pascal ties himself to her shoulder. When she touches the ground Pascal is gone. A few minutes later, he's back. How did he get there?

(Counts as a spoiler) According to an interview on http://hellyeahtangled.tumblr.com/ Rapunzel's hair indeed doesn't grow back when it's cut. The human head loses hair daily, so when Flynn cuts Rapunzel's hair all the hair she loses daily would be gone. The poor girl would be bald in a few years, and isn't she a Disney princess? Ok, I now want a fanfic about that. XD

[Disney's Divinity]

You can dig up plot holes in just about ANY movie. Both PatF and Tangled are no exception. For me, I enjoyed Princess and the Frog plenty enough...but about 90% of that enjoyment came from the beautiful hand drawn animation. The origin of my opinion stems from that I have always enjoyed the Rapunzel tale more than The Frog Prince, so I felt more of an initial investment in Rapunzel.

As for the songs...EVERY single time a Disney musical came out, all I heard about the music was "Oh the songs are no (insert previous animated film score here)" and so on. I don't believe in instant classics when it comes to music. Only time will tell on how these songs stick with us.

Yeah, I hear that in Disney reviews all the time. Even going back as far as Aladdin, I've read old reviews that say, "While not as good as Mermaid or B&tB," but I find that film to be pretty good musically. The same with Pocahontas, Hercules, and Hunchback. Of course, I do end up ranking them lower than those first two of Menken's (with Ashman), but I think the music almost always works effectively. Tangled's songs are similar to TP&TF in that they aren't stand-out on their own, but they work well within the movie. And that's all that matters.

The strange thing is I've never cared for either tale (Rapunzel or The Frog Prince). I think I remember saying that back when the first plans of Rapunzel were announced...a really long time ago. I didn't walk into TP&TF expecting to love it (though I was looking forward to seeing more 2D animation, if nothing else--and it was beautiful on that front) and I didn't walk into Tangled expecting to be ambivalent to it (though I wasn't looking forward to the 3D--which left me surprised by how good it looked). With TP&TF, I think it just comes down to the fact that Musker and Clements were behind it. I've loved nearly all the movies they've played a part in (Mermaid, Hercules, and Treasure Planet--not so crazy about Aladdin, but it's not bad), so they must just do something with their films that I enjoy.

[Scarred4life]

How did Gothel learn the Healing Incantation? The queen had to drink the flower, so if she knew the Healing Incantation everyone would know, and I find it very unlikely that someone told Gothel.

I think that Gothel just made it up. Maybe she was singing one day and the flower started to glow, and she became younger. And then she just made up a incantation to sing. And the Queen didn't know the healing incantation, she just drank the flower, and it acted as a medicine.

#2. How did Rapunzel hide the satchel from Flynn? She got it from Gothel, then she hid it, then it just disappears until I See the Light. How could she sneak it past him and where was it during Kingdom Dance?

Well, she hid it behind the tree at first, but after that... I don't know.

#3. More like a blooper, but in When Will my Life Begin Reprise 2 before Rapunzel is about to jump Pascal ties himself to her shoulder. When she touches the ground Pascal is gone. A few minutes later, he's back. How did he get there?

I didn't notice this... I'll have to pay closer attention to this on my next viewing.

(Counts as a spoiler) According to an interview on http://hellyeahtangled.tumblr.com/ Rapunzel's hair indeed doesn't grow back when it's cut. The human head loses hair daily, so when Flynn cuts Rapunzel's hair all the hair she loses daily would be gone. The poor girl would be bald in a few years, and isn't she a Disney princess? Ok, I now want a fanfic about that. XD

I was thinking about this too, and wouldn't her hair just grow back magical? Not in the spots where there is cut hair, but in the spots where the cut hair has fallen out? Because what would happen when her hair was still magical and it fell out? Would it grow back magical, normal, or would it just not grow back at all? It would have had to grow back magical, otherwise she would have no hair there either. Or would the magic prevent the hair from falling out?It's all very confusing.

[taoayumu]

~SPoilers~



Whoa, 'interview'! You guys make my blog sound professional XD
Beside the hair not growing back anymore, I been getting a lot of messages upon knowing Flynn's real age is 26 years old. I find it amusing that people freak out the most are about Flynn's age and Rapunzel hair not growing back at the end.

[Polizzi]

http://elfyourself.jibjab.com/view/57x5NfnTAk5YC77z

To celebrate Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tanged)," which defeated, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1," at the box office for this week, I made a video for you Disney fans from, "Elf Yourself."

[SWillie!]

Well that contradicts the fact that in Disney World they are officially saying just the opposite. If Rapunzel is asked "why isn't your hair short and brown like it was at the end of the movie?" she is supposed to reply that there is still a little bit of magic left, enough for her hair to start growing back, even if she no longer has her healing powers.

[janesjubilee]

http://elfyourself.jibjab.com/view/57x5NfnTAk5YC77z

To celebrate Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tanged)," which defeated, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1," at the box office for this week, I made a video for you Disney fans from, "Elf Yourself."

I. Can't. Breathe.

[Polizzi]

http://elfyourself.jibjab.com/view/57x5NfnTAk5YC77z

To celebrate Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tanged)," which defeated, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1," at the box office for this week, I made a video for you Disney fans from, "Elf Yourself."

I. Can't. Breathe.

Shall I remove the video since it is disturbing?

[skyler888]

i was recently thinking, that Mandy Moore's song "Extraordinary" might have been a really great end credits song

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i think the lyrics really relate to Rapunzel's journey, and if they re-recorded it, maybe with a bit faster tempo or something it would have worked great

[DisneyJedi]

http://elfyourself.jibjab.com/view/57x5NfnTAk5YC77z

To celebrate Disney's, "Rapunzel (Tanged)," which defeated, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1," at the box office for this week, I made a video for you Disney fans from, "Elf Yourself."

This really made my night!!

[Polizzi]

Excuse my curiosity, but do you think that Disney would sue me for posting these images of their characters from, "Rapunzel (Tangled)," for, "Elf Yourself," because I feel kind of worried.

[Fairytales]

i was recently thinking, that Mandy Moore's song "Extraordinary" might have been a really great end credits song

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i think the lyrics really relate to Rapunzel's journey, and if they re-recorded it, maybe with a bit faster tempo or something it would have worked great

Wow! That song is a great match! look at these lyrics:

Stopping off at a sidewalk cafe
The wind is playing in the trees
Kicking up confetti leaves
Seems as if it's all to say

Rapunzel stops at a cafe (Snuggly Duckling) and kicks up leaves (during her moodswings)