SpringHeelJack wrote:All CAPS films were animated for a 1.66:1 aspect ratio. Sometimes they are framed otherwise (i.e., "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" on DVD).
All CAPS movies were framed for 1.85:1, movie theaters often cannot show a picture that's smaller than that. They were just animated in 1.66:1 so they wouldn't lose too much picture when they were released on video. The intended aspect ratio is still 1.85:1.
Disney Duster wrote:Does anyone realize that Belle and the Beast are slightly smaller/farther away in the 3D release promotional still? As in...you can see more of the background, like the column next to the Beast's back.
The dvd seems cropped, yeah. It seems zoomed in too much. I still hope we'll just get the 1.85:1 ratio for the new edition.
SpringHeelJack wrote:All CAPS films were animated for a 1.66:1 aspect ratio. Sometimes they are framed otherwise (i.e., "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" on DVD).
All CAPS movies were framed for 1.85:1, movie theaters often cannot show a picture that's smaller than that. They were just animated in 1.66:1 so they wouldn't lose too much picture when they were released on video. The intended aspect ratio is still 1.85:1.
Disney Duster wrote:Does anyone realize that Belle and the Beast are slightly smaller/farther away in the 3D release promotional still? As in...you can see more of the background, like the column next to the Beast's back.
The dvd seems cropped, yeah. It seems zoomed in too much. I still hope we'll just get the 1.85:1 ratio for the new edition.
I think s/he meant was that the characters were made smaller within the same backdrop, not the whole image being zoomed up.
If the BD image is anything like that promotional still, I wouldn't mind buying two copies!
I just wanted to say about changing color settings:
Changing color settings can't fix the problem of seeing the original.
Remember those experiments where people played with the colors of the film to look either dark like the Laserdisc or bright like the DVD? And it worked for some scenes but not others? No experiments perfectly matched the VHS, the Laserdisc, or the DVD?
Some scenes, and some colors, are meant to be dark, others are meant to be bright. It takes a human touch to decide what colors should like. Just making everything darker is not the same as artistically deciding what every part of the film should look like, done by the original artists. Each part is meant to look a certain way.
But even despite that, shades of colors changed from like brown to red and yellow to orange and so there's more to it than that as well.
Here's what happens if you resize the 2002 DVD cap so the portion shown is the same as/proportional to the Promotional Still (approximately. I got Beast & Belle to match perfectly, but the background wouldn't)
The 2002 DVD cap is approx. 1.82:1
The Promotional Still is approx. 1.69:1
albert
WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
It's a downsized image of a cap, and whenever you shrink an image, it loses sharpness and clarity. It's not necessarily indicative of the actual DVD's sharpness.
albert
WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
Soupy, that image is clearly too bright. It looks like a Saturday Morning cartoon coloring book. The real "Beauty and the Beast" should have a coloring book page like this:
"Ta ta ta taaaa! Look at me... I'm a snowman! I'm gonna go stand on someone's lawn if I don't get something to do around here pretty soon!"
SpringHeelJack wrote:Soupy, that image is clearly too bright. It looks like a Saturday Morning cartoon coloring book. The real "Beauty and the Beast" should have a coloring book page like this:
it's lovely but it's still flat as a saturday morning cartoon, it need some scribbles to give it dimension.
Enigmawing, that is truly gorgeous, coming from another artist myself who loves coloring! And the right colors, too (well, instead of like the completely yellow gown Belle has in clipart and such) But please color in the background! The red in the turrets, the green in the plant, all the correct colors in darkness!
KubrickFan wrote:Well, that's not true. They're on the exact same place on both screenshots.
Disney Duster wrote:Enigmawing, that is truly gorgeous, coming from another artist myself who loves coloring! And the right colors, too (well, instead of like the completely yellow gown Belle has in clipart and such) But please color in the background! The red in the turrets, the green in the plant, all the correct colors in darkness!
Thanks! I'm afraid I got really lazy with the background as I usually do. This was just a quickie to see if I could get something decent out of a pixelated little coloring pic.
KubrickFan wrote:Well, that's not true. They're on the exact same place on both screenshots.
No, I was right. Look carefully!
That's only because Beast's outline is thicker in the dvd version. If you check the rest, it does match.
About the background not matching, maybe one shot was taken a frame or so later than the other? I'm not trying to find excuses, but it could be other things than the scene being reanimated.
but it's still flat as a saturday morning cartoon, it need some scribbles to give it dimension.
