The Should I Buy [Insert Title] Dvd Thread

[Jules]

I was hoping to get some advice from you guys please.

I'm looking for Fantasia and Sleeping Beauty on DVD. Now I know they're hard to find, and I suppose my best bet is to wait for a copy to surface on eBay.

However, I was wondering whether it would be more worthwhile to wait until their next release. The problem is that I have no idea when they're going to be rereleased. Disney.co.uk says that both will be released after 2010 (if I'm not mistaken), but sometimes Disney.co.uk has mistakes so I don't really trust its content.

Secondly, if they're rereleased, I suppose it would be on the next-gen Blu-Ray format, and I cant' see myself ever owning a Blu-Ray player.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

The Fantasia Anthology is a GREAT set, I personally own it, and I think it's the best set that I have. The PE would have a better restoration, and sound, and it might be unedited (no one know's for sure). And both movie's have two, yes TWO commentaries. I would suggest the Fantasia Anthology, not only because it has Fantasia, but it also has Fantasia 2000, and a whole seperate disc about the two movies & more.

Now I don't know about the Sleeping Beauty Special Edition, because I don't have it, but from the review, it sounds great, it even has a commentary. I'm going to wait for the Platinum Edition coming out in maybe 2 years (101 2007 (#9 on PE list), and TJB 2007 (#10 on PE list), both on the original 10 PE's. That means that SB could come out in 2008 or 2009). As for this movie, if you absolutely want to see this movie, then you should buy this movie. If you can wait, then wait for the PE.

This is just my 2 cents

[Jules]

But Sequel, do you think Sleeping Beauty will be presented on Blu-Ray?

PS: Regarding Fantasia's restoration. Though it didn't get the Lowry Digital restoration for the Anthology (like the Platinums), it appears that the restoration is still pretty good. (And it is THX-Certified after all, even though we have all established that the THX certificate on DVDs is meaningless thrash ).


By the way, actually I already own Fantasia. However, I have the Region 2 copy, and the picture is totally horrible. It is not taken from the restored Region 1, but from the 1990 VHS release. Talk about bad quality.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

But Sequel, do you think Sleeping Beauty will be presented on Blu-Ray?

I wouldn't think SB will be on Blu-Ray. I think that Disney will re-release the rest of the PE's on DVD, before they will put it on Blu-Ray, because I'm sure that people will still be buying DVDs in the next 5 years. Well more people would be buying more DVDs than Blu-Ray.

[FantasiaMan]

...By the way, actually I already own Fantasia. However, I have the Region 2 copy, and the picture is totally horrible. It is not taken from the restored Region 1, but from the 1990 VHS release. Talk about bad quality.

Is it the uncomplete film? Is it the 80 minute version or the complete 2 hour-10 min. version?

Either way, you should buy the Anthology Set before it costs an arm & a leg on eBay. It was the first DVD I ever bought, & even after 5 years of buying DVDs, it's still the best in my collection. It's definitely worth it.[/quote]

[Jules]

My version is a bit shorter than the Region 1 version. It's 114 minutes.

However, my main complaint is the picture quality. It's so bad, you would not believe. It basically looks VHS quality. The worst thing is that it's grainy. Very grainy. Secondly it's rather dark. Thirdly...well, it's just downright ugly. There are scratches or spots on every frame of film.

It's appaling.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

I guess R2 versions are a bit shorter because of "PAL speed-up".

I've heard about a ~80-minute version of Fantasia, but has that ever been released on any home video format? What was cut to make it just 80 minutes?

[Enchantress]

I'd say that if you really want them, then you should go for it. If I had to wait a minimum of 4 years for a film I really liked I'd probably get it from ebay. On the other hand, if it is for completion purposes, you might as well wait and get it cheaper in a few years time.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

I think it's safe to say that "everything comes back", sooner or later.

As for "blu-ray": What do we know about it so far - first and foremost: Is it going to catch on? If it does, I guess it's even safe to say that "everything comes back" - in blu-ray...

[The Little Merman]

If you can find a (real) Sleeping Beauty SE, then spring for it! On the whole, it's an absolutely marvelous set which in my humble opinion should have been part of the Platinum line.

*tlm

[Escapay]

I've heard about a ~80-minute version of Fantasia, but has that ever been released on any home video format? What was cut to make it just 80 minutes?

The 1991 VHS was the first release and was the full 120-minute version, so I don't think the 80-minute version was ever on home video (and honestly, who'd want it?)

IIRC, what was cut to make the film 80 minutes was the following:

Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor
All the introductions/narrations
The line of sound thingy, you know, the animated bit where a line demonstrates how music looks (it was before Pastoral Symphony).

So essentially, it was pretty much a string of the rest of the cartoons:

Nutcracker Suite
Sorcerer's Apprentice
Rites of Spring
Pastoral Symphony
Dance of the Hours
Night on Bald Mountain/Ave Maria

Escapay

[Lars Vermundsberget]

No, I didn't really think the 80-minute version was ever available on video. I think that particular cut was in theaters in the 40s after it turned out that the original version was far from the success hoped for...

[lapniappe]

i was wondering that myself. if its going to be a platinum edition in the next few years, then there is really no point buying it now; rather than double dipping, because the only thing different would probably be the casing. I know the slip cover is the rare-book looking ones, but even then it is a pfft, because all pertinent information is somewhere IN the dvd case LOL.


though if anyone did have a copy for sale, and its resonable, i am open for negotiations

[Simba3]

I've been debating the same thing whether to buy Sleeping Beauty on eBay for a chunk of change or just wait until it is released as a part of the Platinum Edition line. I think it would be worth it to have the Special Edition just incase they back out and don't put it in the platinum line. I've been looking on eBay and you can find some authentic, sealed copies for fairly cheap (considering its out of print). I think I'm going to give in myself and pick one up.

[reyquila]

I say now, later and Blue Ray.

[skyler888]

um i was wondering if you guys could help , i'm really looking into buying pinochio DVD, but it may or may not come out in 2008 so im sort of stuck.

I've already bought it before of ebay but it ended up being a foreign bootleg (ugh, double whammie).

so your advice would be greatly appreaciated.

[Lucylover1986]

If I was you I'd just put up with the bootleg until the re-release comes along.

[lapniappe]

i agree. if its a good quality (the bootleg), you already tech. have the movie, so I would just wait until 2008.

[goofystitch]

I keep hearing different things about "Pinocchio." Some sources claim that "Snow White" is getting a PE re-release BEFORE "Pinocchio" would get it's first PE release, but it's already been 7 years since it's last release, which is the standard time frame for these films. "Pinocchio" by all rights should be getting a PE in 2007, but we already know it's not. It's pretty much confirmed that March of 2008 will bring "101 Dalmatians," but I'm really hoping October 08 is "Pinocchio's" turn. After that, I feel it shoul rightrully be "Fantasia" in March of 09 and "Sleeping Beauty" bringing the PE to a close in October 09. Then start "Snow White" again in March or October of 2010. I'm just antcy to have all of the PE's and hate the fact that some films will have been released to the line twice before others make their way to it. I also feel they should add one more and make it a 15 set with "Alice in Wonderland." Maybe it's just me, but I really feel that it deserves to be part of it. And if they are bent on re-releasing "Snow White" and "Beauty and the Beast" before the line is completed, then they should just up it to 3 Platinums a year so we could still get 2 new ones and then a re-release. They would only have to release 3 in one year to finish the line and then restart it and it's not like doing that would make the two newer ones any more rushed than they already are because I don't expect Disney to add to much more to the re-releases.

[lapniappe]

I agree! I also agree that Mary Poppins should have been a Platinum release, why it didn't it surprises the heck out of me. I don't really get the whole reasoning why they didn't.

I haven't seen Pinnoochio, all of the Jungle Book, 101 Dalmations or peter pan. I'm really excited to get them, though, I don't know if I would really like 2 of those 4.