Pixar's Soul

[Disney Duster]

And you mean he shouldn't have tried to destroy my beliefs that made me happy, D82? Anyway, thank you, and that's great about you and your siblings and your beliefs.

[blackcauldron85]

spiritual sign twirler (Graham Norton) in Disney/Pixar's "Soul."

I think it just clicked in my brain that this character is voiced by the talk show host!

I've noticed that the lyrics of the song are in the video description. They're of course in Chinese, but if you use an online translator maybe you can get an idea of what he's singing about.

That's a great idea- thanks!!

[Sotiris]

There's also this song from Spain that was made for the end credits of The Good Dinosaur I think I posted once. It was written and performed by a singer who was in the Spanish equivalent of American Idol.

Thanks! That's actually a pretty nice song. I don't think I ever listened to it before. I wonder how come certain territories get original "inspired by" songs attached to Disney or Pixar releases while others don't. What's the selection process? Do local Disney branches get to decide that?

[Sotiris]

I wonder if this has to do with Lasseter's ouster or Ratzenberger's politics.

John Ratzenberger Seemingly Absent from Pixar’s “Soul”
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/article ... rger-soul/

[blackcauldron85]

Minor spoiler? alert in the above article! It mentioned a small something that I had not read before:
as one of the Jerry’s in the Great Before!!!

If John's not listed in the credits, as Alex in that article said, then I wonder what happened, if it was Pixar, John L., or John R.'s doing...

[D82]

And you mean he shouldn't have tried to destroy my beliefs that made me happy, D82?

Yes, exactly. Well, I only read the quotes you posted, not the whole conversation, so I don't know if you two were in the middle of a heated argument, for example, but anyway, attacking other people's beliefs like that and basically calling you stupid for believing in what you believed is not right in my opinion.

I wonder how come certain territories get original "inspired by" songs attached to Disney or Pixar releases while others don't. What's the selection process? Do local Disney branches get to decide that?

I wonder all that too. By the way, maybe you already knew this, but in Spain there's also a WDAS film in which this happens: The Rescuers Down Under. In the original version there are no songs, but here this song was heard during the end credits. However, it hasn't been included in the DVD nor the Blu-ray editions of the film. Curiously, the singer who performed that song is actually American but was living in Spain back then. She also performed the end credit songs for Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin and recorded three albums of Disney songs. I've actually discovered some of these things now. I remember seeing her on TV when I was a child singing "Beauty and the Beast" and "A Whole New World", but I hadn't even realized the song in the Rescuers Down Under was also performed by her.

I wonder if this has to do with Lasseter's ouster or Ratzenberger's politics.

John Ratzenberger Seemingly Absent from Pixar’s “Soul”
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/article ... rger-soul/

That's a real shame, but were there some allegations against him or something or could it be just his political views what has caused this?

[blackcauldron85]

By the way, maybe you already knew this, but in Spain there's also a WDAS film in which this happens: The Rescuers Down Under. In the original version there are no songs, but here this song was heard during the end credits. However, it hasn't been included in the DVD nor the Blu-ray editions of the film.

That's super interesting!!! That's quite a bop. Um, so it's about being saved from a trap, and he'd die quicker by staying and not going to the hospital and be given "something," there were glass beds, you will find the boy in his prison, you have to make him escape the key, they have to wrap a lizard of lions facing them between fighting, it is terrible, it is horrible, please save me, no one finished the house, arrive to the hospital, go fast like a kangaroo, something about a feeling... Between YouTube auto-generated English captions, and YouTube auto-generated Spanish captions, then using Google Translate, that's what I got.

[D82]

Um, so it's about being saved from a trap, and he'd die quicker by staying and not going to the hospital and be given "something," there were glass beds, you will find the boy in his prison, you have to make him escape the key, they have to wrap a lizard of lions facing them between fighting, it is terrible, it is horrible, please save me, no one finished the house, arrive to the hospital, go fast like a kangaroo, something about a feeling... Between YouTube auto-generated English captions, and YouTube auto-generated Spanish captions, then using Google Translate, that's what I got.

These auto-generated captions are sometimes hilarious! I've written the lyrics down for you and I've tried to translate them (translations in blue below each line). The lyrics are not very good; they simply describe events that happen in the movie, but the melody at least is catchy (and very 80s). I'm not sure about the part in red, but I think it's just onomatopoeias what she sings there. And actually I had never understood what she repeated in the chorus was Bernard and Bianca until now. I don't know if it's because she sings that part quite fast or why, but even now I was struggling to understand what she says there. But then I realized that if the song is called Bernard and Bianca, they must be mentioned somewhere in the song. By the way, the song mentions Cangurolandia (Kangarooland) because that word is in the Spanish title: Los Rescatadores en Cangurolandia (The Rescuers in Kangarooland), though I think it's never mentioned in the film itself. I guess they made up that word to replace the "Down Under" from the original title since that way of referring to Australia doesn't exist in Spanish.

BERNARDO Y BIANCA
BERNARD AND BIANCA

Qué bonito que es vivir si un buen amigo te llevó
How wonderful it is to live if a good friend took you
Con sus alas al país del canguro saltarín
On her wings to the country of the jumping Kangaroo
De repente fue el mortal "zas" y "cloc", trampa cruel
Suddenly, it was the deadly "whack!" and "clack", cruel trap
Al pequeño Cody atrapó ese loco cazador
That crazy hunter trapped little Cody
Es terrible, es horrible. ¡Sálvale, por favor!
It's terrible, it's horrible. Please, save him!

Bernardo y Bianca volando en su ayuda van a la trampa en que él cayó
Bernard and Bianca flying to his aid go to the trap he fell into
Bernardo y Bianca, ¡daos prisa en llegar! Sí, sí, allí.
Bernard and Bianca, hurry up and come! Yes, yes, there.
Bernardo y Bianca, moriría si no vais. ¡Rápido, salvadlo ya!
Bernard and Bianca, he would die if you don't go. Hurry, save him quickly!
Bernardo y Bianca, ¡más deprisa, por favor! Sí, sí, allí.
Bernard and Bianca, hurry up please! Yes, yes, there.
Cangurolandia es el fin.
Kangarooland is the goal/destination

En albatros viajaréis a Australia con gran rapidez
In albatross you will fly to Australia very fast
Y sin duda encontraréis al muchacho en su prisión
And you will certainly find the kid in his prison
Hay que hacerlo escapar, la llave han de robar
You have to help him escape, you have to steal the key
Un lagarto peleón les hace frente, han de luchar
A combative lizard confronts them, they have to fight
Es terrible, es horrible. ¡Sálvale, por favor!
It's terrible, it's horrible. Please, save him!

Chorus, etc.

[Sotiris]

By the way, maybe you already knew this, but in Spain there's also a WDAS film in which this happens: The Rescuers Down Under. In the original version there are no songs, but here this song was heard during the end credits. However, it hasn't been included in the DVD nor the Blu-ray editions of the film.

No, I had no idea. That's fascinating. So, the song was only part of the theatrical and VHS edition? That's such a shame. I wonder why it was omitted from the DVD/Blu-ray edition. Was it a rights issue? Was Disney being cheap again and didn't want to pay royalties? I hate it when they do that. It's bad enough they commission new dubs to screw actors out of royalties, but completely remove a song? That's an integral part of the movie for a generation of people.

That's a real shame, but were there some allegations against him or something or could it be just his political views what has caused this?

To my knowledge, there haven't been any allegations against him. However, he is a vocal Trump supporter, so perhaps that was a consideration. The Ratzenberger cameos was something Lasseter pushed for, and now that he's gone, maybe the new management decided to change direction and stop doing them.

[blackcauldron85]

D82, thank you x1000 for posting the translation!! I really liked the melody of the song, and you are right, the song kind of just tells the basic plot! But it's still a neat thing to have attached to the film!!

[D82]

You're very welcome, blackcauldron85.

So, the song was only part of the theatrical and VHS edition? That's such a shame. I wonder why it was omitted from the DVD/Blu-ray edition. Was it a rights issue? Was Disney being cheap again and didn't want to pay royalties? I hate it when they do that. It's bad enough they commission new dubs to screw actors out of royalties, but completely remove a song? That's an integral part of the movie for a generation of people.

Yes, the song was only attached to the film in theaters and on VHS. I don't know why it was omitted from the most recent home video editions, but I completely agree with you; it's unacceptable that they do things like this and don't care more about the fans.

To my knowledge, there haven't been any allegations against him. However, he is a vocal Trump supporter, so perhaps that was a consideration. The Ratzenberger cameos was something Lasseter pushed for, and now that he's gone, maybe the new management decided to change direction and stop doing them.

I think the second option is more likely then. I wonder if WDAS' own lucky charm, Alan Tudyk, will also stop having roles in every new movie as well. I guess we'll know when Raya's full casting is announced.

[Disney Duster]

And you mean he shouldn't have tried to destroy my beliefs that made me happy, D82?

Yes, exactly. Well, I only read the quotes you posted, not the whole conversation, so I don't know if you two were in the middle of a heated argument, for example, but anyway, attacking other people's beliefs like that and basically calling you stupid for believing in what you believed is not right in my opinion.

Thank you D82. He didn't come out and say I was stupid, but he tried to explain why my beliefs which don't hurt anyone and make me happy were wrong.

[estefan]

Interesting enough, I remember a time when Bill Hader was going to be Pixar's next "good luck charm." He had voice roles in Monsters University, Inside Out, Finding Dory and Bob Peterson's version of The Good Dinosaur. They even did a ceremony joking about him replacing John Ratzenberger at D23. But since Dory, he's only showed up in Toy Story 4.

[Farerb]

Does anyone remember this?


Was this supposed to be the film's previous title or was it another film that was cancelled?

[blackcauldron85]

I sure do not remember that, but Googling it only brings up a March 31, 2019 FB post by Animated Views, and a Twitter post, so me thinks it's April Fool's!

https://www.facebook.com/AnimatedViews/ ... 234828322/

Animated Views
March 31, 2019
Just announced: Pixar to take audiences to "Heaven" in 2021 with "buddy cop-style adventure comedy" about two guardian angels tasked with protecting a particularly danger-prone 12-year old boy.

https://twitter.com/AnimatedViews/statu ... 3143183366

[Farerb]

It's so weird. I started deleting old images from my phone and came across it and I had no recollection of it whatsoever. Weird coincidence how they managed to invent a movie whose premise is similar to Soul's.

[Farerb]

Skyler Shuler says that John Ratzenberger is in the film:
https://twitter.com/SkylerShuler/status ... 59232?s=19

[D82]

Skyler Shuler says that John Ratzenberger is in the film:
https://twitter.com/SkylerShuler/status ... 59232?s=19

I hope he's right.

Interesting enough, I remember a time when Bill Hader was going to be Pixar's next "good luck charm." He had voice roles in Monsters University, Inside Out, Finding Dory and Bob Peterson's version of The Good Dinosaur. They even did a ceremony joking about him replacing John Ratzenberger at D23. But since Dory, he's only showed up in Toy Story 4.

I had forgotten about that. It's true, for a time it seemed he was going to be the new John Ratzenberger, but as you say, he hasn't continued voicing a character in every movie.

I sure do not remember that, but Googling it only brings up a March 31, 2019 FB post by Animated Views, and a Twitter post, so me thinks it's April Fool's!

It was indeed an April Fool's joke:

Time for us to come clean: as some of you guessed, this was a (slightly early) April Fool's Day joke! But hey, it also sounds like it would make for a pretty great movie if we do say so ourselves!

Source: https://twitter.com/AnimatedViews/statu ... 1942284289

Weird coincidence how they managed to invent a movie whose premise is similar to Soul's.

Yeah, it's incredible. It sounded as it could very well have been an earlier version of Soul.

[blackcauldron85]

My Soul book came in the mail!!! Major spoilers ahead!!!

Joe auditioned for the Dorothea Williams Quartet, and got an offer to play with the band to see if he's a good fit. Then he was on his phone, stepped out of the way of a motorcycle, and fell into the hole to The Great Beyond. The counselors thought that Joe was a lost mentor; they gave him 22 to mentor. "She agreed to give him her Earth Pass as soon as they found her Spark." Joe and 22 went to The Hall of Everything, to find 22's "spark" (profession). 22 introduced Joe to "the Mystics," whose "minds were in the Astral Plane, their bodies were still on Earth." There was an open portal to Earth, Joe jumped, accidentally bringing 22 with him. You guys were right- Joe is the cat and 22 is in Joe's body. Joe wanted to find Moonwind to help. Joe and 22 had pizza, and 22 felt better. Moonwind told Joe that he could help. One of Joe's students came to his home because she wanted to quit, but she really liked music. 22 felt "inspired." They went to the barber shop, and 22 had a good time chatting with the people there. Joe/22's hat felt off and his pants ripped, so they went to visit him mom's tailor shop. His mom gave him his dad's suit. 22 was liking Earth, but still didn't have a "spark." She didn't want to find it in the You Seminar; she wanted to find it on Earth. Terry found Joe and 22 and "A portal scooped up Joe and 22" and they went back to the You Seminar. 22 gave Joe the Earth Pass that she was given. Joe played with the Quartet, but "Joe felt strangely unfulfilled." His pockets were full of stuff that 22 collected. Joe ended up on the Astral Plane. 22 was now a "lost soul, angry and destructive." Joe gave 22 an item that was in his pocket (a leaf), and 22 calmed down. Joe gave 22 back the Earth Pass. 22 said, "But we never found out what filled in my last box." Joe said, "It doesn't matter. It's what you do with it that counts." They both leapt in the portal, and Joe returned to the Great Beyond. Joe was an inspiration to the counselors, and they gave him an Earth Portal. "Joe took one more fateful step, unsure of what lay ahead, but prepared to appreciate each and every moment of his wonderful life."

[D82]

Clip from the Disney+ documentary series Inside Pixar in which co-director Kemp Powers taks about Soul: https://twitter.com/Pixar/status/1327295168114950144

Also, I don't know if they've seen the entire film or just the first 30 minutes, but the people from Pixar Post say that what we've heard from Jon Batiste's song "Born to Play" is the full song, or at least the part that Joe plays in the movie. They also say it doesn't have any words. We'll see. I think it's possible there'll be an extended version on the soundtrack that may contain some lyrics.

So, for the earlier post with the Jon Batiste song - I believe that is the complete song (or, at least how Joe plays it...you'll see) and no, it doesn't have any words.

Source: https://forum.pixarpost.com/post/soul-n ... 1321515395